PC BSOD after installing new gpu + PSU to compensate the new GPU

[Aelux5216]

Friend, I'm not upset... trying to help...I don't expect you to know anything... which is why I am asking for screenshots of HWmonitor so we can tell you about temps...

You say 43-47C for the CPU and 50C for the GPU......... is that idle or load? If its idle that is WAY too hot...

okay here is the temps on idle.

Friend, I'm not upset... trying to help...I don't expect you to know anything... which is why I am asking for screenshots of HWmonitor so we can tell you about temps...

You say 43-47C for the CPU and 50C for the GPU......... is that idle or load? If its idle that is WAY too hot...

okay so this is idle

and this is it after playing an mmo for a little while

And by default i mean i changed all the settings to fail-safe defaults by pressing a certain key then just saved and exited.

 

[Jborg]

I am no Radeon expert, but those idle temps for the GPU seem a bit high? I sit at 28c ~ with my GTX 970.

 

[Aelux5216]

I am no Radeon expert, but those idle temps for the GPU seem a bit high? I sit at 28c ~ with my GTX 970.

as far as i know amd cards are generally hotter well at least my friend that has th r9 290x as well said his was only slightly cooler than mine and he has it water cooled so yeah.
edit: 34 c is the normal on idle so only 6 c up from what it should be on idle

 

[EarthDog]

Idle temps are mostly not relevant... We can see the load temps are 50C which gives around 30C+ headroom...

the meager 10C delta though is shocking... even under water the difference from idle to stock is 30C... on air it should be more.

 

[Aelux5216]

Idle temps are mostly not relevant... We can see the load temps are 50C which gives around 30C+ headroom...

the meager 10C delta though is shocking... even under water the difference from idle to stock is 30C... on air it should be more.

okay so what could be causing that ? i have 3 fans in total not that makes a difference i cant imagine.

 

[EarthDog]

That is not an issue, just incredibly surprising...seems like the GPU is barely doing anything.

 

[Jborg]

Its possible the MMO game he is testing on is more CPU heavy than GPU. Most MMO's seem to be that way. (At least GW2 and Archeage)

 

[Aelux5216]

Its possible the MMO game he is testing on is more CPU heavy than GPU. Most MMO's seem to be that way. (At least GW2 and Archeage)

yeah i was playing archeage actually aha but jsut in case that was the case like i thought i tested with far cry 4 on ultra and the gpu still only got to 50 c

 

[EarthDog]

I know this isn't taking care of your main issue (frankly, Im out of steam except for my last post with how I would proceed), but do you run with vsync enabled or something in your games? 50C load on a 290x is insane unless your ambient is like 10C, LOL!

 

[Aelux5216]

I know this isn't taking care of your main issue (frankly, Im out of steam except for my last post with how I would proceed), but do you run with vsync enabled or something in your games? 50C load on a 290x is insane unless your ambient is like 10C, LOL!

no i run without vsnyc because i feel like a locked framerate is annoying.

 

[EarthDog]

I cant get over 50C max playing Crysis at 1080p with the highest settings... makes no sense to me, LOL

 

[Aelux5216]

I cant get over 50C max playing Crysis at 1080p with the highest settings... makes no sense to me, LOL

well thanks for your help either way, ill have to repost and hope someone else can help me ill try reposting on tomshardware as well.

 

[EarthDog]

If you would, put the link to that thread here... make sure you let them know what you have done so they are not wasting time...

That said, not sure you tried my last suggestion in raising the voltage .1 from stock to see if it lasts even longer.

 

[Aelux5216]

If you would, put the link to that thread here... make sure you let them know what you have done so they are not wasting time...

That said, not sure you tried my last suggestion in raising the voltage .1 from stock to see if it lasts even longer.

yeah i will do that first and tell you how that goes and could you possibly make a list of things we have tried so i can add that to the original post.

 

[EarthDog]

That list can be found by the posts in this thread. I don't have time to summarize what was done, sorry.

 

[Aelux5216]

That list can be found by the posts in this thread. I don't have time to summarize what was done, sorry.

well that didnt go well and administrator found out i reposted and said to wait for other people to reply to this one rather than reposting..

 

[rtwjunkie]

well that didnt go well and administrator found out i reposted and said to wait for other people to reply to this one rather than reposting..

Not a big deal, don't sweat it. Give it awhile for enough people to see this thread. Everytime someone posts in here it bumps it back to he top of recent posts. As the volume of traffic increases, your odds of getting a good answer to your problem increase. Sorry, but on this type thing I'm not much help, so I jst contributed all I can. Good luck!

 

[Aelux5216]

Not a big deal, don't sweat it. Give it awhile for enough people to see this thread. Everytime someone posts in here it bumps it back to he top of recent posts. As the volume of traffic increases, your odds of getting a good answer to your problem increase. Sorry, but on this type thing I'm not much help, so I jst contributed all I can. Good luck!

okay thank you i really hope that thsi gets noticed because this problem is so annoying.

 

[EarthDog]

well that didnt go well and administrator found out i reposted and said to wait for other people to reply to this one rather than reposting..

Yeah, you shouldn't double post...thats just forum etiquette... no biggie though.

 

[95Viper]

i'm thinking new psu is crap.

Possible, I have had new ones that were not up to specs.

This is just my opinion...
I am leaning to that PSU not being up to specs... possibly, you got a lemon.
I am not a big believer in the software sensor tests at times: however, you got some voltages that are way off.
Either, the software is misreading them, they are not being reported correctly, or your PSU is not putting out to spec..

If you know how, I would check the PSU with a meter or some test unit.
If you don't have that ability... then, I would try another PSU, that has able output and is known to be good.

If your MB has the capability, look at the voltage levels there.
Or, try HWInfo32 or HWInfo64 and post the results.

Also, my HD7950 idles around 34°c to 37°c (depending on ambient temps).

 

[Aelux5216]

Possible, I have had new ones that were not up to specs.

This is just my opinion...
I am leaning to that PSU not being up to specs... possibly, you got a lemon.
I am not a big believer in the software sensor tests at times: however, you got some voltages that are way off.
Either, the software is misreading them, they are not being reported correctly, or your PSU is not putting out to spec..

If you know how, I would check the PSU with a meter or some test unit.
If you don't have that ability... then, I would try another PSU, that has able output and is known to be good.

If your MB has the capability, look at the voltage levels there.
Or, try HWInfo32 or HWInfo64 and post the results.

Also, my HD7950 idles around 34°c to 37°c (depending on ambient temps).

got a lemon ? like i said it was one the tier 1 list so it should be more than enough for any set up unless more watts are needed and it gets all but 6 w out of it 744w actually wattage and the amperage is way mroe than my old psu..

 

[EarthDog]

Software is not reliable for checking voltages. The ones listed for the 12+, 5v, and 3.3v in Hwmointor or w/e that is are so low the PC wouldn't be able to work in the first place. That said, check them with a multi-meter if you have one. The 5v and 12v rails are easy breezy to check using a molex. As viper mentioned, check to see what the bios says about those rails and see if it matches.

Just because it is a Teir 1 PSU doesn't mean that there are not lemons. Shipping from the factory to the store it could have been kicked around or something, who knows. The 'tiering' part has nothing to do with available wattage for your setup. The tiers are a level of quality, not output.

Also, my HD7950 idles around 34°c to 37°c (depending on ambient temps).

What is your point? He is a 290x.

 

[95Viper]

got a lemon ? like i said it was one the tier 1 list so it should be more than enough for any set up unless more watts are needed and it gets all but 6 w out of it 744w actually wattage and the amperage is way mroe than my old psu..

I does not matter if it was listed as the top unit of the world... believe it or not, you can get a new bad unit.

What is your point? He is a 290x.

Someone posted what their NVidia sits at idle; so, for balance I posted what my AMD sits at idle.

 

[Aelux5216]

I does not matter if it was listed as the top unit of the world... believe it or not, you can get a new bad unit.

i know it just seems unlikely since the error apparently is related to timing or vcore

 

[EarthDog]

If the voltage supplied to the board isn't enough, you could have voltage sags that would lead to a......lack of core voltage since the board can't supply enough to the CPU. Hence, that BSOD. I can follow that logic...

But this...............

Someone posted what their NVidia sits at idle; so, for balance I posted what my AMD sits at idle.

No. Two irrelevant details doesn't make it relevant. LOL! Balance, LOL! TPU cracks me up sometimes.

Anyway, Aelux.. instead of debating the merits of the issue with those trying to help, how about mentioning if you can test with a multimeter (I put a link up to google for how to). If not, check the voltage levels in the bios and report back.