PC BSOD after installing new gpu + PSU to compensate the new GPU

[Aelux5216]

If the voltage supplied to the board isn't enough, you could have voltage sags that would lead to a......lack of core voltage.

Wait... what?! That makes no s........forget it.

is there a way i can check how many volts the motherboard is getting it did say the voltages on hw monitor so would that be enough, the screenshots of my hw monitor was a little back in this post

 

[EarthDog]

is there a way i can check how many volts the motherboard is getting it did say the voltages on hw monitor so would that be enough, the screenshots of my hw monitor was a little back in this post

I already mentioned how to check and that software is not accurate (so did viper). Aelux, read a fews posts above please.

 

[Aelux5216]

If the voltage supplied to the board isn't enough, you could have voltage sags that would lead to a......lack of core voltage since the board can't supply enough to the CPU. Hence, that BSOD. I can follow that logic...

But this...............
No. Two irrelevant details doesn't make it relevant. LOL! Balance, LOL! TPU cracks me up sometimes.

Anyway, Aelux.. instead of debating the merits of the issue with those trying to help, how about mentioning if you can test with a multimeter (I put a link up to google for how to). If not, check the voltage levels in the bios and report back.

i dont think i have a multimeter handy so ill check in the bios and report back

 

[Aelux5216]

I already mentioned how to check and that software is not accurate (so did viper). Aelux, read a fews posts above please.

so i checked the bios and it said that the vcore was 1.296v as for the other readings +12v was 12.024, +3.3v was 3.457 and ddr3 was at 1.5v. i also used the software suggested and got this result.

 

[EarthDog]

Seems in order as +/- 5% is spec from each. Only way to confirm is through a mmeter though.

How did adding .1v work out? Any better?

 

[Aelux5216]

Seems in order as +/- 5% is spec from each. Only way to confirm is through a mmeter though.

How did adding .1v work out? Any better?

I totally forgot to try that actually sorry I was busy at the time so I didn't read that post fully but just to confirm an I adding .1v to the CPU voltage or the CPU vid voltage ?

 

[EarthDog]

VID is not a dynamic voltage. That is a cpu's stock voltage.

You need to add it to the cpu core voltage like I hope you did earlier.

 

[Aelux5216]

VID is not a dynamic voltage. That is a cpu's stock voltage.

You need to add it to the cpu core voltage like I hope you did earlier.

thats good then i was doing it right earlier then and iv made the .1v change so i will update you sometime tomorrow after its been running for a while.

 

[m4gicfour]

What is your point? He is a 290x.

For reference, our very own W1zzard's figures state that: (Two figures given relate to Quiet / Performance BIOS)
PowerColor R9 290X PCS+ Idles at 37°C / 38°C and full load at 68°C / 76°C
AMD Reference R9 290X Idles at 49°Cand full load at 93°C / 94°C

His idle temps are easily within normal for a 290X allowing some leeway for variations in airflow, what version (reference, non-reference, etc) but that 290X is not working hard at all under whatever load he had it under.

With a fullcover block and a high-end water loop, my 290Xs load [F@H, 100% usage] at (Core, VRM1, VRM2): 51C/49C/43C and 50C/54C/43C. These same cards ran 95C under air, with 18C ambient (regardless of whether one or both was installed). A 50C loaded 290X on air is... unbelievable unless that happens to be out in the winter air.

Suffice to say, so long as the reason the card is as cool as his numbers show is that it's barely being loaded, then I'd say the GPU temps are fine, otherwise it's either not switching into 3D clocks or some other issue. If the obvious things that you and OP have been trying have no effect/prove to be fine, I would next look at the GPU drivers.

 

[Aelux5216]

Okay

VID is not a dynamic voltage. That is a cpu's stock voltage.

You need to add it to the cpu core voltage like I hope you did earlier.

Okay so it's already blue screened just from when I said I changed it to now

 

[Aelux5216]

For reference, our very own W1zzard's figures state that: (Two figures given relate to Quiet / Performance BIOS)
PowerColor R9 290X PCS+ Idles at 37°C / 38°C and full load at 68°C / 76°C
AMD Reference R9 290X Idles at 49°Cand full load at 93°C / 94°C

His idle temps are easily within normal for a 290X allowing some leeway for variations in airflow, what version (reference, non-reference, etc) but that 290X is not working hard at all under whatever load he had it under.

With a fullcover block and a high-end water loop, my 290Xs load [F@H, 100% usage] at (Core, VRM1, VRM2): 51C/49C/43C and 50C/54C/43C. These same cards ran 95C under air, with 18C ambient (regardless of whether one or both was installed). A 50C loaded 290X on air is... unbelievable unless that happens to be out in the winter air.

Suffice to say, so long as the reason the card is as cool as his numbers show is that it's barely being loaded, then I'd say the GPU temps are fine, otherwise it's either not switching into 3D clocks or some other issue. If the obvious things that you and OP have been trying have no effect/prove to be fine, I would next look at the GPU drivers.

i used the amd auto-detect to get the gpu driver and i have left all the settings at default.

 

[EarthDog]

Is reinstalling Windows an option for you? I'm really grasping at straws here outside of swapping out hardware piece by piece...I think you need to get matching ram sticks in there regardless.

 

[Aelux5216]

Is reinstalling Windows an option for you? I'm really grasping at straws here outside of swapping out hardware piece by piece...I think you need to get matching ram sticks in there regardless.

i have accumulated a lot of things and to even store just the important things on something i would need a spare hard drive since the amount i would have to save would be a conserable amount more than the memory sticks i have lying around. I'm proberly asking for too much here but is there some way all windows files can be repaired while still keeping all my data ?

 

[Aelux5216]

okay so after the .1v increase and immediate blue screen i lowered it back down to .05 increase (the one it was most stable at) and decided to boot up far cry 4 again and this time the gpu went up to 64, is that more normal or is even that too low ?

 

[EarthDog]

In the ballpark. What are your ambient(room) temperatures?

Is your hard drive more than 1/2 full or the data you want to save more than half? If not, partition it and dump your data on the partition and reformat the 'front' end.

You can do a repair install, yes.

 

[Aelux5216]

i dont really have a way to check my room temp if im honest and if i was to put the important stuff onto another partition and installed windows onto the partition without data could i then move the data back and still be able to expand the new partition back to full size afterward or would some files still remain that would mean the partition would be stuck like that ? but this repair install how would i go about doing that ?

 

[EarthDog]

Depends on what kind of files... Data(pics/music etc) sure, just move it back. Installed programs would need reinstalled to reassociate things in the registry.

As far as how to do a repair install, Google it (I would but I'm replying on my phone, sorry)

 

[Aelux5216]

Depends on what kind of files... Data(pics/music etc) sure, just move it back. Installed programs would need reinstalled to reassociate things in the registry.

As far as how to do a repair install, Google it (I would but I'm replying on my phone, sorry)

so i looked into a repair install and i cant see how it would choose a certain partition if i wanted to back up onto a different partition seems to just detect and go with the upgrade/repair option :L

 

[EarthDog]

A repair install and the reinstall with a partition are two completely different things....

 

[Aelux5216]

A repair install and the reinstall with a partition are two completely different things....

I know but if i do a repair install can I still bak it up onto another partition just in case the repair fails ? that's what I was asking or will I definitely not lose anything and the repair will work fine ?

 

[EarthDog]

You can partition and repair install. but it's usually successful... You can already boot and all.

 

[basco]

quote: okay so after the .1v increase and immediate blue screen i lowered it back down to .05 increase (the one it was most stable at)
crazy the one it was most stable

did you try to take one ram out like earthdog suggested(he shows real patience here-good job ) and look in your manual where to put 1 stick? i would guess on ram probs.

i would try your older stick which i guess is the 4gb and ya bought an 8gb afterwards?

forgot to add: the xfx should be a very good choice since its seasonic inside.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Friend, I'm not upset... trying to help...I don't expect you to know anything... which is why I am asking for screenshots of HWmonitor so we can tell you about temps...

You say 43-47C for the CPU and 50C for the GPU......... is that idle or load? If its idle that is WAY too hot...

For a R9 290X... it is not... they are hot tempered... in order to keep them silent.

OK now my turn. Try to use single monitor only pull out the TV (that's the actual reason why the card is hotter, Earth dog missed on that)

I have seen a Asus H81 and R9 290 that black screens each 5mins when using dual head and nothing can be done, the card works ok in other boards and vice versa.

Then try to downlclock lower north bridge and ram speed for one step, see if it helps, just do one bit, not everything toghether.

Then... the most lol thing... haven't you checked your SATA cables... had so many random bsods with them...

Last thing is try to reassemble the PC. Reseat the CPU, or just try to run it bare assembled on the desk.

 

[Aelux5216]

quote: okay so after the .1v increase and immediate blue screen i lowered it back down to .05 increase (the one it was most stable at)
crazy the one it was most stable

did you try to take one ram out like earthdog suggested(he shows real patience here-good job ) and look in your manual where to put 1 stick? i would guess on ram probs.

i would try your older stick which i guess is the 4gb and ya bought an 8gb afterwards?

forgot to add: the xfx should be a very good choice since its seasonic inside.

i did take the ram out its been out since he said to remove it and my manual one states what channels are what nothing else.. and i bought the 8gb first then my friend gave me the 4gb so that fact it was secon hand is why i assumed it would be the 4gb one

 

[EarthDog]

For a R9 290X... it is not... they are hot tempered... in order to keep them silent.

OK now my turn. Try to use single monitor only pull out the TV (that's the actual reason why the card is hotter, Earth dog missed on that)

I have seen a Asus H81 and R9 290 that black screens each 5mins when using dual head and nothing can be done, the card works ok in other boards and vice versa.

Then try to downlclock lower north bridge and ram speed for one step, see if it helps, just do one bit, not everything toghether.

Then... the most lol thing... haven't you checked your SATA cables... had so many random bsods with them...

Last thing is try to reassemble the PC. Reseat the CPU, or just try to run it bare assembled on the desk.

Way too hot was in regards to the CPU.

I didn't mention SATA cables/dual video card because the BSOD code isn't remotely related to such things.

Pulling things apart and putting it back together I like.