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The problem is that Crysis did not live up to expectation for the performance hit. Thus, general rule was that it was a poorly optimized game. This is do to the fact that CF does not scale properly in Crysis while SLI works perfectly fine (something we all should know by now). Also, mods starting coming out claiming better visuals with slight bump in frame rates. This only added fuel to the already out of control flames. Take the following pics as an example:


Below is the retail version of Crysis (what many claimed to be the best graphics ever!)


Below is the level of graphical detail possible when you play Crysis using CCC with TOD and colorgrading



Below is the retail version of Crysis (what many claimed to be the best graphics ever!)


Below is the level of graphical detail possible when you play Crysis using CCC with TOD and colorgrading




Below is the retail version of Crysis (what many claimed to be the best graphics ever!)


Below is the level of graphical detail possible when you play Crysis using CCC with TOD and colorgrading


Source

Now that you can see what Crysis is from a retail stand point and what Crysis could have been through modding you begin to understand the frustration. Had Crysis look like it's modded counterpart would people complain about frame rates or resolution? Hard to say really. However, when you realize that Crysis could have been better graphically (as it already had the stigma of being the best graphical game ever) had it had more development time before release may have changed people's outlook of the game. Also, take note that the increase visuals are available for both DX9 to DX10.

Lets be clear about something, modding a game is intended to only enhance your enjoyment a game. It should never be a means to show what a game should have been.

In a nutshell if a developer is creating a graphically eye pleasing game using a top notch storyline then the expectations of such a game becomes high, very high. For example, Bioshock (and others) fit such a description and sold very well on both PC and console. Funny thing was:
-it didn't have the level of AA quality some are accustom to because it used a deferred rendering method
-issues with the number times it could be installed (which was changed later on)
-issues with how they defined widescreen (which was changed later on)
It didn't stop it from winning awards and being top selling game of it's time. But lets not forget most of all that Bioshock did require high end PC to run it max @ 1920x1200 at consistent 60 FPS or better. However, it wasn't necessary to have such a high frame rate to maintain some level of smoothness. Therefore, a mid-range PC could run it depending on in game settings, cpu/gpu OC settings, etc.
 

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I took your point the first time around but you are missing my point.

I have not gradually built up my PC with the aim of playing Crysis. If I were to do that I would have went for GTX 280 instead of 4870. I was just using Crysis as a prime example of PC games being released that cannot be run maxed with current hardware.

When Crysis was released I knew very well my X1900XTX rig would not run the game so I never even looked at the demo, never downloaded a bootleg ISO, let alone Q'ed up to pre-order it. Even if I had the the king of gfx cards back then (8800 Ultra), I still wouldnt have bought it cos basically it ran like shit even with the very best gfx card of that time (released by Nvidia whom you say had a deal with Crytek). Crysis is just one game, but there have been many others and there will be many more......hate to keep repeating myself but if a game dont run well, then I and many others will choose to bootleg other than purchase the game as we cannot be assured of our immediate customer satisfaction

Well A the 1900XTX can run crysis so shh no excuse.

B 8800 Ultra can play it quite well at a resolution such as 1680 x 1050 because as solaris said he could play it very well on a 8600

C
but if a game dont run well, then I and many others will choose to bootleg other than purchase the game as we cannot be assured of our immediate customer satisfaction

Thats the biggest load of bs ever. You can't go to a dealership and STEAL a car then say because I could not be assured of immediate customer satisfaction to the police as an excuse.
 

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This sounds like a Crysis flame war if I ever saw one. Yes, its a poorly coded game but its also one of the easily modded games out there.
As a product release, it was a POS, but we can mold that POS into what it should have been. We don't need $4000 rigs to max out games, hell I can max out most games on a 3870x2.
When we buy this stuff, we make it work the best for our rigs, games & video cards included. That could mean it being maxed out for some, but for most that isn't the case.
As for piracy, pff :rolleyes: Let them complain, I don't care - don't release a product if you don't want it to be hacked :nutkick:
 

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Thats the biggest load of bs ever. You can't go to a dealership and STEAL a car then say because I could not be assured of immediate customer satisfaction to the police as an excuse.

I am not talking from a moral viewpoint. I am talking from a practical viewpoint. Fact is, I can downlaod any game I want from Newsgroups in about the same time it woudl take me to walk down the town and buy the damn game over the counter. A very different scenario from stealing a car I am sure you would agree.

Although I have played some games I have loved right through to completion using only a bootleg copy, generally I like to buy games that I like. I am conscientious gamer but one who doesn't have a bottomless supply of cash so there has to be good reasons to persaude me to part with my cash when I could just as easily steal that software for free. All I have been saying all along is for me to choose to buy the bloody game........IT HAS GOT RUN WELL ON MY PC.....IF IT DONT....THEN I AINT GONNA PART WIHT MY CASH FOR IT.

Is that so hard to accept?
 

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I am not talking from a moral viewpoint. I am talking from a practical viewpoint. Fact is, I can downlaod any game I want from Newsgroups in about the same time it woudl take me to walk down the town and buy the damn game over the counter. A very different scenario from stealing a car I am sure you would agree.

Although I have played some games I have loved right through to completion using only a bootleg copy, generally I like to buy games that I like. I am conscientious gamer but one who doesn't have a bottomless supply of cash so there has to be good reasons to persaude me to part with my cash when I could just as easily steal that software for free. All I have been saying all along is for me to choose to buy the bloody game........IT HAS GOT RUN WELL ON MY PC.....IF IT DONT....THEN I AINT GONNA PART WIHT MY CASH FOR IT.

Is that so hard to accept?

Yes because it is an irrational idea. No stealing a car is a different scenario but the same principles. If you wanted to test that the game runs well then you should download the demo.
 

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Yes because it is an irrational idea. No stealing a car is a different scenario but the same principles. If you wanted to test that the game runs well then you should download the demo.

Right m8.

You have well and truly missed the point for the final time.....i aint repeating myself no more but you have permission to go ahead and consider yourself very dense!
 
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Guys, let's tone things down a little. Don't want to be handing out infractions on such a trivial topic.
 

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Right m8.

You have well and truly missed the point for the final time.....i aint repeating myself no more but you have permission to go ahead and consider yourself very dense!

Wow your making yourself out to be a child in front off all these people. Please refrain from personal insults it just shows you can't argue back with something relative.
 

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Funny how you didn't respond my post #47

I am not talking from a moral viewpoint. I am talking from a practical viewpoint. Fact is, I can download any game I want from Newsgroups in about the same time it would take me to walk down the town and buy the damn game over the counter.

Excuses. If you preordered the game in advanced it would arrive the morning of release and hence arriving quicker than you walking down town on the morning of release.

I am conscientious gamer but one who doesn't have a bottomless supply of cash so there has to be good reasons to persuade me to part with my cash when I could just as easily steal that software for free

Well maybe if you wasn't spending ÂŁ2,000 on your computer just to play one game maxed out you would have enough money to purchase and not download games.

pff..I'm a conscientious gamer as I spent around ÂŁ600 on CPU/mem/graphics cards in the last 3 years yet play all my games to satisfaction (very high settings, 1440x900, 30+ FPS) but I opt not to play Crysis in favour for the other games which actually play well.
 
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good to see some nice heated debate I say!
 

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consoles are definately dominating the gaming market now due to piracy on pc i look at it as kinda great news hopefully i wont have to upgrade in a long time, most of the games i want are going to be on console so it kinda gives me a guide that the game will look as good as it does on the console versions (which it does usually) on my pc just hope it is ported well and not unoptimized.
 

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"consoles are definately dominating the gaming market now due to piracy"
do you not have non-computer skilled friends with consoles?

also whoever said that playing crysis on "high" (instead of very high) is better than 99% of games graphics on consoles/pc has the best point
 
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consoles are definately dominating the gaming market now due to piracy

Most of the PC market is based on multiplayer games, which are generally extremely hard to pirate. (MMORPG's make this impossible, punkbuster, etc) Look at how many people play WoW. Sooner or later all games will fall into what we're seeing now, which is PC multiplayer, console singleplayer. You don't see MMORPG crossovers for a reason.
 
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Mat I understand your point, someone put the games out there for you, and because you don't know if you will like it you steal it. Your like the 2yr old and cookie jar. Your still a criminal plain and simple and the reason alot of honest gamers like myself get the short end of the stick, take me for example my KW download time expired so i went and bought a retail copy instead of pirate it and use my key which wouldn't have been illegal per say, but it can still get you in trouble. Your a common crook.
 

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Mat I understand your point, someone put the games out there for you, and because you don't know if you will like it you steal it. Your like the 2yr old and cookie jar. Your still a criminal plain and simple and the reason alot of honest gamers like myself get the short end of the stick, take me for example my KW download time expired so i went and bought a retail copy instead of pirate it and use my key which wouldn't have been illegal per say, but it can still get you in trouble. Your a common crook.

zzzzZZZZZzzzz

Yes, me and my bootleg software, a common crook along with 90% of the rest of PC gamers....

Sadest thing of all is (apart from actually replying to this), you probs have 10 HD full of bootleg material.....

Need I reiterate my case....

naw...I think I am wasting my breath.........best conserve my energy for more rewarding pursuits such as sticking needles in my eyes.
 

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Or donating something more positive to the TPU forums aside from piracy? :toast:

I know it's aggrivating with some games and how they run, play, perform and whether or not you like it...Crysis has a DEMO, that alone was enough for me to decide if I wanted the game or not...I didn't, my friend lent me his copy for a while, so I'm grinding through it now, and it is somewhat entertaining...I'm sure Far Cry 2 will be good stuff...I did get the free Far Cry during that old labor day weekend deal, it has the ads in it and all that fun stuff, but hey Far Cry for free? I'll take the ads and deal with it...

I'm sure everyone's pirated at least once, I don't think bickering or pissing and moaning are going to fix anything in the big picture...if you really want to pirate, download it, if you like it buy it, that's just IMO...generally I have a friend or two that get games when they're released so I generally luck out in that instance.

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zzzzZZZZZzzzz

Yes, me and my bootleg software, a common crook along with 90% of the rest of PC gamers....

Sadest thing of all is (apart from actually replying to this), you probs have 10 HD full of bootleg material.....

Need I reiterate my case....

naw...I think I am wasting my breath.........best conserve my energy for more rewarding pursuits such as sticking needles in my eyes.

except i don't own a bootleged anything. I don't pirate, im not a criminal like yourself
 

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If I was a mod I would have closed this thread already. Its getting too personal. I agree with Paulieg, its gonna get out of hand soon. (If it hasn't already)
 

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