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fullinfusion

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well synthetic marks are one thing, what about major apps, games, video encoding, file compression, music creation etc.
well gaming and file compression video encoding i understand lol... and VIS... your starting to pull a Full off lol....
i was gaming 3 solid hours last night with out a problem... @3.03ghz and memory @1076mhz 5.5.5.15.20 t2...
oh and when i try 1T settings and it goes to boot i get a BANK INTERLEAVE requested but the only option in bios is auto and disabled? what is that all about?
 

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by the way, older benchmarks arnt going to show the improvement between ganged and unganged. This was also stated by AMD. Til Phenom gets its own little recognition into better and newer benchmarks, you can go with whatever you want. But I buy AMD and I trust AMD so Im going to run what they say is better.


(which is unganged) =]
 

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Unganged is better. Go back a few pages and there is a diagram from AMD stating that unganged is much better then ganged. If you want benchmark scores then just throw your pc in a vat of liquid nitrogen. You arnt gaining anything from doing all of that anyways. There is no game/program out that demands all that tweaking to gain performance. In my view, you are just wasting your time and money trying to make a few digits on your CPU-Z go up. For what? bragging rights? Unless you are getting paid or sponsored to do that, then thats my outlook. Massive waste of time.



Sorry, im mad cause I typed out huge responses and I messed up. It feels nice to get that out.

but seriously, 800mhz > 1066mhz.

Kei's said this numerous times before. TIMINGS are greater then SPEED. Not exactly that but its the jist of things.

TIMINGS > SPEED
TIMINGS > SPEED
TIMINGS > SPEED
TIMINGS > SPEED
TIMINGS > SPEED

AM3 is the next step from AM2+. Its going to support more processors at better architectures and give you the ability to run DDR3.
gee dad chill out lol... just kiddin man...
but whats the sence of running 800 @ 1T 4.4.4.12.16 vs 1060 t2 at 5.5.5.15.20 t2
im still a bit foggy here so please bare with me guys... and Vis... i hear what your saying about the nitrogen thing lol... ya got a huge point there:toast:
 

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well gaming and file compression video encoding i understand lol... and VIS... your starting to pull a Full off lol....
i was gaming 3 solid hours last night with out a problem... @3.03ghz and memory @1076mhz 5.5.5.15.20 t2...
oh and when i try 1T settings and it goes to boot i get a BANK INTERLEAVE requested but the only option in bios is auto and disabled? what is that all about?

Your memory can NOT run that fast.

That is basically what its telling you.
 

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by the way, older benchmarks arnt going to show the improvement between ganged and unganged. This was also stated by AMD. Til Phenom gets its own little recognition into better and newer benchmarks, you can go with whatever you want. But I buy AMD and I trust AMD so Im going to run what they say is better.


(which is unganged) =]
ok V unganged it is.... hey your starting to sound like me lastnight lol.... ya better go shoot something hahaha... i picked up Crysis today so im going to load her up and run the bench :p
 

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Liquid nitrogen is the way. Or do what IBM is doing...putting water cooling INTO their chips and parts. INTERNAL WATERCOOLING!! Amazing.

Yea, sorry about my rant. [/rant]

Full. 1066mhz vs 800mhz...here it is

The only thing 1066 will ever have on 800mhz is speed. And speed is beated to death by timings. The faster your timings are, the faster your PC goes. So if you have 1066mhz Cas5 2T and 800mhz Cas5 2T...1066mhz wins. But if you have 1066mhz cas5 2T and 800mhz Cas4 2T...800mhz wins. And since its easy to get 800mhz cas4 WITH a command rate of 1T, 800mhz dominates.
 

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Full, dont freak out if you run crysis badly. Its terribly coded for ATI cards. (pretty much a stunt for NV to sell more cards)
 
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anybody here ran the crysis benchmark? Just wondering what average FPS your getting? My best was about 19fps/s
 

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Liquid nitrogen is the way. Or do what IBM is doing...putting water cooling INTO their chips and parts. INTERNAL WATERCOOLING!! Amazing.

Yea, sorry about my rant. [/rant]

Full. 1066mhz vs 800mhz...here it is

The only thing 1066 will ever have on 800mhz is speed. And speed is beated to death by timings. The faster your timings are, the faster your PC goes. So if you have 1066mhz Cas5 2T and 800mhz Cas5 2T...1066mhz wins. But if you have 1066mhz cas5 2T and 800mhz Cas4 2T...800mhz wins. And since its easy to get 800mhz cas4 WITH a command rate of 1T, 800mhz dominates.
ok Vis here ya go... now tell me what you think...
i wont sleep unless your happy with my rants about the 1066-800 thing so here take a look... and no worries mate... we all have our moments lol... im a great example lol..

 

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anybody here ran the crysis benchmark? Just wondering what average FPS your getting? My best was about 19fps/s
i will soon CP... thats one reason why i got the game lol... ill post results asap... and i hear ya about the game not playing well with ati gpu's... shit the baby nvidia 7900gs card i had ran Crysis no problem on med settings... it was the demo game thou..
 

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im forgot to say those timings and 1T setting is at 2.20v... that ok?
and i m back using the 0801 bios since i wont need to set the memory at 1066 mode lol... and dam this sucka moves now... did b4 but not like this :D thanks guys
 

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ok Vis here ya go... now tell me what you think...
i wont sleep unless your happy with my rants about the 1066-800 thing so here take a look... and no worries mate... we all have our moments lol... im a great example lol..


you think the timings are a tad tight? the 16 one?
 

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Yea, tracers run 2.2 volts stock. BTW, my water cooling kit is running. its not hooked up but its running. :D I've got it just running to get it cleaned up internally.

But yes, Full, your settings are running great, now what I think you should do is try to get those memory timings the lowest you can. After that...you will be set.
 

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what ya using to clean out the scale and crap outta your system V? and sweet another H2o dude in the room.... sweet!!!
 

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anyone have Crysis? do i need to download all the patches or just the newest?
 

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I dont have crysis, : /

Yea, Im not sure if I will use this setup. Its a pretty bad water cooling kit. The hoses are half inch and the pump isnt really that strong. Another problem is that Im not sure if this block will fit or not, I also dont have a reservoir, and I know I will have to lap the block before actually using it.

Oh, and as far as what Im cleaning the system out with is just water. Plain ol' tap water. :D
 

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I dont have crysis, : /

Yea, Im not sure if I will use this setup. Its a pretty bad water cooling kit. The hoses are half inch and the pump isnt really that strong. Another problem is that Im not sure if this block will fit or not, I also dont have a reservoir, and I know I will have to lap the block before actually using it.
hmmm dosnt sound like its really worth the effort hey?
have you seen my modded h2o kit that i striped down to make it run300% better then what it was when i pulled it outta the box?
you can view it here.. mind ya ive installed a bigger psu and cable management is way better.. let me know what ya think... and this crysis patch is a bitch slowing my system down to a halt... mind ya im only running 2 sticks today... might even but the corsair xms2 6400's back in to game if these crucial sticks don't measure up..
http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1599.html
 

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Yea, your kit has way bigger hoses. Twice the size of this thermal take's. Maybe I should convert this into a VGA cooler.
 

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Yea, your kit has way bigger hoses. Twice the size of this thermal take's. Maybe I should convert this into a VGA cooler.
thats what this h2o kit is... thermaltake... and it's 7/16" hose... i just want a higher pressure pump though.... but yea could be an idea V... i also but the corsair sticks back in.... i hope the 4 sticks that i have on the way are better then these 2 crucial sticks....i don't know mabey im doing something wrong here... i hope i didn't waste my money on tracers....:wtf:
 

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wait....what? How many sticks do you have? and of what brands? types?

btw, my hoses must be quarter inch then...
 

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wait....what? How many sticks do you have? and of what brands? types?

btw, my hoses must be quarter inch then...
well i took back 2 sticks of the tracers today since i have 4 sticks coming from e-bay...
they are 1066 tracers...
so today i've been only running 2 sticks of the tracers... the sticks now in the pc are the old xms2 6400's from corsair
 

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So you are just using 2 sticks of corsair and two tracers? Both 800mhz?
 

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So you are just using 2 sticks of corsair and two tracers? Both 800mhz?
while you were helping me i only had 2 tracer sticks in the mobo.... now i have 4 sticks of the corsair sticks in.... way better but then again ya cant compare 2 vs 4 hey... hey go injoy the fire works man...:toast:
 
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