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You can lose 1TB of data with a regular HDD also if it goes bad after 2year's! :D

But if you wish buy a 1GB HDD beside of the SDD to store your precious Data! (All your Porn and pirated films!) And for the system you can use the ultra fast SDD :D:D:D

SDD is the future! :slap:

ya sure it is the future and will do what you said, but first get the name right. its SSD ( Solid State Drive ) , not SDD ( Solid Disk Drive ) . :D :slap:
 

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personally i wouldn't buy 1 for at least the nxt 12 months+ ,give em time to become a bit more reliable and cheaper (hopefully)

i simply don't trust them to last tbh ,id rather w8 and see how they are in a year or so,until then im perfectly happy using ye olde mechanical drives :)
 
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All of You already are using some forms of SSDs!
All of Your CellPhones memory cards and iPhones, Blackberries are using some kind of SSDs!
:cool: (Solid State Drives - non mechanic units...)



newtekie1:
"The problem is that just putting the OS on the drive doesn't help performance in applications. The applications need to be on the SSD also, and right now my OS/App drive isat 200GB and growing with each new game that comes out."

128GB is enough I'm sure You aren't playing 70GB of Games at the same time period (1-2mounth or so) And for the newest and hottest of your Games is always Space! Beside this new tech don't need to trow your older tech away so you have your HDDs for videos and music (and for the older Games((orGameISOs:))) But you can buy a 256GB SSD also for more space! But my experience with free space on drives is that there isn't enough free space no matter what big your drives are! :D You get it Always Full!

And they are lowering the prices, but with all new tech the prices are high and when more and more people buy the product the cost for making it goes down...

The Year of the SSDs is comming maybe 2010 so I think I can wait! And read from bigger and better drives! :rolleyes:
 
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wolf2009:
"ya sure it is the future and will do what you said, but first get the name right. its SSD ( Solid State Drive ) , not SDD ( Solid Disk Drive ) . :D :slap:"

Sorry I was writing on my iPhone3G with just one open hand! (because my girlfriend was sleeping on me!) So it was a bit difficult but I'm apologizing for it! :toast:
 
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We will see :)

And if they drag their feet, maybe we'll get manufacturers offering them with a SAS 2.0 interface.

Or perhaps will see more PCIe based drives.
 

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"It won't replace HDDs until the write count is at close to that of an HDD."

SLC drives already post acceptable numbers. It's these MLC drives that are the trouble, and even they are rapidly improving. At any rate, I'd still trust an SSD over an HD anyday, your more likely to wear out an HDs mechanics than an SSDs burn in with decent wear leveling.

Not really, the mechanics in HDDs are designed to last decades, and with good luck and care they do. There are still 15K RPM SCSI drives from the 90s running in servers.

I will say that the one thing that is at least good with this situation is that in reality, when the flash memory starts to fail, the data won't usually be lost. You can still usually read the last thing written to it, you just can't write anything new.

All of You already are using some forms of SSDs!
All of Your CellPhones memory cards and iPhones, Blackberries are using some kind of SSDs!
:cool: (Solid State Drives - non mechanic units...)

Yes, so are USB flash drives. The flash memory cards used in CellPhone and such don't really see the read/write counts that a HDD/SSD in a computer will see. Besides that, they are notoriously unreliable, I've had to replace my USB Flash drive 3 times in a year.



newtekie1:
"The problem is that just putting the OS on the drive doesn't help performance in applications. The applications need to be on the SSD also, and right now my OS/App drive isat 200GB and growing with each new game that comes out."

128GB is enough I'm sure You aren't playing 70GB of Games at the same time period (1-2mounth or so) And for the newest and hottest of your Games is always Space! Beside this new tech don't need to trow your older tech away so you have your HDDs for videos and music (and for the older Games((orGameISOs:))) But you can buy a 256GB SSD also for more space! But my experience with free space on drives is that there isn't enough free space no matter what big your drives are! :D You get it Always Full!

And they are lowering the prices, but with all new tech the prices are high and when more and more people buy the product the cost for making it goes down...

The Year of the SSDs is comming maybe 2010 so I think I can wait! And read from bigger and better drives! :rolleyes:

128GB would definitely not be enough, and obvously if bigger drives coming out is news, I'm not alone. Like I have said my OS drive is already at 200GB, it is on a 500GB Drive. I would rather not have to constantly worry about running out of space.

Like I have said, I don't believe SSDs will be able to compete with HHDs in the consumer market for at least 2 years, until prices on SSDs get down to at least close to HDDs.
 

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I will say that the one thing that is at least good with this situation is that in reality, when the flash memory starts to fail, the data won't usually be lost. You can still usually read the last thing written to it, you just can't write anything new.

Mhmm. When your SSD fails, the 1TB of data won't be lost. The drive will lose its write functionality and become a read-only drive. Whatever you have written onto it before the failure is still there ;)
 
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newtekie1:
"128GB would definitely not be enough, and obvously if bigger drives coming out is news, I'm not alone. Like I have said my OS drive is already at 200GB, it is on a 500GB Drive. I would rather not have to constantly worry about running out of space."

Like I already said no matter what big your drives are! You get it Always Full!!!
Difference between You and Me is that You give 2years to SSDs to grow up and I give 1!

ps: If You must replace Your USB sticks 3times a year, You picked maybe the wrong company's...
I have 1 A-Data (1GB) 3years old Zero problem
1 Kingston (4GB) 2years old Zero problem
O and a 64MB no name drive 5 or 6 years old and still running... (check it for you today:roll:)

SSD prices will drop soon or later! (max2year)
:pimp:
 

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seen somebody at a local comp shop stick usb drives into usb hubs and run read/write benches for months on end, each time one failed he noted it and rma'd the stick.

hes got a couple first gen 4gb memorex drives(came with that annoing software that lets u run apps off the drive from a menu system, cleared that with the geeksquad tool) they been running for years of CONSTANT benching, the shells have disscolored(baddly infact) but the drives are still reading as reliable!!!

PNY has a HIGH fail rate, he even gave up testing them after the 10th one died from what his list shows(last i was over there the thing was still going, old ass laptop being used for testing)

most important thing is buying a good brand.

i would give these 3-4 years same as most mech drives made today.

longer in many systems, hell i got a first gen 200gb maxtor drive thats been over heated BADDLY thats STILL RUNNING PERFECTLY after I did a multi lowlevel format and ran hdd regenerator on it, its got a few re-allocated sectors but works FINE, hasnt gained anymore, so im not worried about it dieing still use it as a download drive :D
 

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SSD haters are getting annoying.

I've had three new WD 640GB's die within 2 days of owning each, my housemate had a 1TB seagate die within 8 hours of owning it (with 500GB of his data moved over to it) and a friend with a 750GB greenpower which is causing bluescreens somehow.

Dont whine about how SSDs are going to be the end of your data - mechanical drives arent exactly reliable either.
 

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I didn't know SSD's saved the data when they started to fail and the only thing they couldn't do was write new data. They would kinda be like DVD-ROMS.
 

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I didn't know SSD's saved the data when they started to fail and the only thing they couldn't do was write new data. They would kinda be like DVD-ROMS.
MLC SSD's have to erase a block entirely before writing new data - if a problem occurs, it simply marks it dirty and writes to another block. SSD's arent like mechanical drives where a failure will cost all your data... it will just be the one block/chips worth of data, unless the drive controller itself dies (which should be replaceable/repairable under warranty, unlike mechanicals)
 

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ps: If You must replace Your USB sticks 3times a year, You picked maybe the wrong company's...

No, I just use it multiple times a day, in multiple computers, I have to use it on customer computers.

OCZ has been great about it, their lifetime warranty has covered it each time, I just send in the old drive, and they ship me a new one, no questions asked. I think they are getting a little tired of me sending in dead drives though, the last time the upgraded me to their ATV Rugged drive. :laugh:

The 4GB drive that I bought from them has lasted 2 years now though.
 

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I had a 4gb stick i used for 2+years(sold it to a buddy who was in a pinch) it worked great and i used it alot.

most drives i have killed/seen killed didnt die from ware on the memory chips, but the eeprom getting scrambled(stoped being seen as a usb flash drive and was seen as a generic usb device)
 

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I have bought 3 SSDs (2x 32GB and 1x 64GB) in the last few months. The speed increase for gaming is incredible and since I am almost 100% only reading data when playing my games the failures due to too much writing to the SSD should not be a problem. I've had more HDDs fail than you can count on all your fingers and toes in MUCH less than the 2-3 years warranty. I'm a very satisfied SSD owner even at the higher price right now. Next year there are several companies coming out with very reasonably priced SSDs in the < $500 range for decent sized drives.
 
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wolf2009:
"ya sure it is the future and will do what you said, but first get the name right. its SSD ( Solid State Drive ) , not SDD ( Solid Disk Drive ) . :D :slap:"

Sorry I was writing on my iPhone3G with just one open hand! (because my girlfriend was sleeping on me!) So it was a bit difficult but I'm apologizing for it! :toast:

ummm .. . no need to apologise for that ! :D
 
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