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Discussion in 'System Builder's Advice' started by tecster, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. tecster New Member

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    Alright so I have some "friends" who said they were "pc builders"... once was supposed to have m a list of parts before Cyber Monday (in hopes to get them on sale), well he's not coming through so I turn to you folks and I hope you can help. I'm not looking for the biggest and the best... below are my needs and wants... all while staying around $4-500 - the cheaper the better, I'm trying to buy a house!



    Needs

    - Every part except RAM, I have 16gigs of DDR3 - only catch is I need 4 RAM slots...

    - Run GTA:IV and GTA:V along with other FPS Games, none needing to be ran at 110%

    - Windows 7 CD-Key... I have a system builder disk, not sure if I can make it work cause I have it on my MacBook (DON'T CRINGE PLEASE!)



    Wants

    - Tiny in size, a small compact - shuttle pc size would be awesome!

    - high quality parts, low price! - Good luck right?

    - Monitor would be nice...nothing crazy big.





    Thanks in advance, any questions please feel free to ask!
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    Do you absolutely need all 16GB of RAM? If not, you could build an ITX setup that would be tiny--but the catch is, ITX boards only have two RAM slots. Otherwise, you'd have to go uATX--which is still small, just not tiny.
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    Only reason I would NEED 4 slots is to run all 16gigs that I have, I don't know how much that will impact my gaming and such?

    I've seen some of these mini iTX cases... I'd love to have something that small.
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    I think you'd be fine with 8GB. I have 8GB in my systems and I've never run out--usually during games with a bunch of stuff running in the background, usage is ~3-5GB.
    Here's what I've thrown together:
    [​IMG]

    You'll still need an LCD, but that's an area where I'm not too qualified. A SSD would be nice, but unfortunately wouldn't fit in the budget :(
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    I'm a penny pincher, is that case required? Did you select if for any particular reason, I mean - if it doesn't come with a PSU then why not go with something like this APEX Mini ITX?

    I'm more comfortable with a AMD platform, my old midtower had AMD and that's what I like... I'm not opposed to any options, but if we can go AMD that's great.
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    That Apex case only has a single slot for a GPU and a PSU that I would be very worried about using. There are other alternatives--but the Elite 120 I posted was what jumped to mind.

    Norton's APU suggestion is solid. You'd have to go with a mATX case, unfortunately, but if you get a small one (such as the Fractal Design Core 1000) it wouldn't be much bigger.
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    That case is garbage. The powersupply inside of that case also garbage. I had one it got tossed in the bin.

    He linked you to an AMD setup. The APU linked is a piledriver CPU+VLIW5 based GPU. Let me log into the lappy top i'll update with a good build for everyone.
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    What's the difference between an Micro-ITX case and a mATX case?

    I was more or less thinking using the case, dumping the PSU but if it only has one GPU slot that sucks. I know he linked me a AMD that's why I had made that statement. I look forward to your post.
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    About $390 w/A8-5600k APU, small mATX case, psu, and Windows 7:

    [​IMG]

    *note- the board I linked to above and in here has 4 memory slots sorry this board only has 2 slots... 4 slot mATX boards are available for a few more $$$
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    Would I have a decent amount of video FPS in GTA:IV & GTA:V? I also would be interested in getting Assassins Creed, and a few other first person shooters.

    I also noticed Norton... No video card?
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  12. cdawall where the hell are my stars

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    Fractal Design Core 1000
    PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 500W
    A10-5800K+GIGABYTE GA-F2A75M-D3H
    SAMSUNG DVD Burner
    Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB HDD
    SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6670 1GB
    XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283

    There you go motherboard supports 4 dimm slots, included the video card for hybrid crossfire and a good cooler for overclocking. $459.93 before MIR's, but the parts listed have another $35 worth of MIR available. If you played with a budget some you could stuff an SSD in there for the OS/Games drive.
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    Norton configured a system with an AMD APU, which consists of a CPU and a GPU fused together. It's actually very powerful compared to most other integrated graphics setups :)
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    Sorry about that, I'm not used to being able to have an integrated graphics system that is powerful enough to support gaming... That must have changed recently? I was brought up on the computer era where onboard is bad bad bad news. Is this upgradable in the future, to put a standalone video card in there?
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    Indeed. cdawall's setup is using a combination of the onboard GPU and a discrete video card in "hybrid crossfire" for better performance>

    It's also possible to put a high-end dGPU not in Crossfire in later on.
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    Its roughly as fast as a 6670 and supports crossfire with a 6670 which is why I included those in my build.
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    So I should be okay to get decent graphics with the integrated setup?
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    Decent I would buy the $50 6670 while I was ordering the whole thing tho.
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    I could pinch a few pennies by going to a 500g or so hd, i wont be putting my on it besides games.
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    Its one of the cheapestdrives on the egg right now $70 for 2tb is unbeatable. If you don't mind a smaller drive with the harddrive and get a 256GB ssd.
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    I actually said that before looking...good find.
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    Change the video card for this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102950

    The one I suggest you use GDDR5 instead of DDR3 witch is a most with dual graphics.
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    Maybe its best to wait until its actually cyber monday... since that's when the price deals will actually be in effect.

    the apu build seems solid though... forget the 9800gt. I have an 8800gt and while its a nice card for its time (btw the 9800gt is pretty much the same) it is showing its age. with the apu build you'd have a little more gpu power at less wattage. that 6670 would crossfire with the apu's gpu so you'd still get pretty decent gaming performance and DX11

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