The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

p_o_s_pc · Mar 10, 2009

ShadowFold said:
Bah still didn't work. Back to the drawing board..

how did it die?

Flyordie · Mar 10, 2009

The board I bought from him killed it. lol. I will let him tell you the rest.

Super XP · Mar 10, 2009

ShadowFold said:
Bah still didn't work. Back to the drawing board..

If I knew you were going to freeze your 940 I would have told you not to put it in water then freeze it. There is a possibility that the water would freeze and possibly expand within the processor if water somehow penetrated inside it. Well, that is what I think.

I would try freezing it again, but this time wrap it in an anti-static bad (Make sure not to damage the pins) then freeze it for another week. If you can get a hold of some dry ice, that could help too.

I know it worked with my older DDR ram but a CPU? Don't know.

Or just buy another one, replace it with the bad one then take it back

p_o_s_pc · Mar 10, 2009

so how does freezing ram or CPU do anything?

ShadowFold · Mar 10, 2009

AMD overdrive killed it. When I use the autoclock or reset to defaults it kills any chip.. I tested it on an old Athlon X2 3800+(and my X4 9750 and 940..) my friend wasn't using and it seems to brick them.

Flyordie · Mar 10, 2009

LOL Shadowfold.
I use AoD but it hasn't killed me yet.

Super XP · Mar 10, 2009

Bios Overclock for me. Something about AMD Overdrive that prevents me from getting good OC's.

Super XP · Mar 10, 2009

p_o_s_pc said:
so how does freezing ram or CPU do anything?

Well I got the freeze ram off OCZ's tech support before I return the DDR400 ram I had way back. After 2 days of freezing, I let it warm up on its own and my PC booted and had no problems ever since.

johnnyfiive · Mar 10, 2009

So I will be doing some OS testing over the next couple of days. I'm going to compare WinXP 32bit to Vista 64bit. I wanted to see for myself first hand, which one performs better. This morning I ran 3DMark06 on WinXP and scored 17,995k. CPU is at 3.5GHz, video card is default clocks. Thats not bad. I haven't run it on Vista 64 yet. Also, I will be testing max 100% stable OC on each OS. The max in Vista 64 is 3.5GHz. I wonder what it will be in WinXP.

ShadowFold said:
AMD overdrive killed it. When I use the autoclock or reset to defaults it kills any chip.. I tested it on an old Athlon X2 3800+(and my X4 9750 and 940..) my friend wasn't using and it seems to brick them.

That really sucks to hear that Shadow, sorry mang.

I never really used AOD for OC'ing, only for checking volts and stuff. Now I'm never going to use it for OC'ing!

erocker · Mar 10, 2009

3dMark 06 is a bad indicator to see which O/S is better as I'm quite sure it's going to favor XP everytime. Try using game benchmarks. Then again if you only use your computer for running 3dMark 06 the test is valid.

johnnyfiive · Mar 10, 2009

I will run all kinds of benchies erocker, not just 3DMark 06. Crysis, Crysis Warhead, CoD4, etc.

tjwo94 · Mar 11, 2009

Not much better....but still improvement. Best I can get with the memory timings I have. Still looking for some advice about my memory timings, or what I need to change to get over 3.9ghz.
Thanks!

p_o_s_pc · Mar 11, 2009

your ram looks like it isn't holding you back any. try upping CPU voltage to 1.37v then up your bus speed.

tjwo94 · Mar 11, 2009

Oh, CPUZ isn't reporting the voltage correctly. Vcore is at 1.56v. Is it better to try and get the bus speed higher and keep the multiplier lower?

Are you aware of any limitations on core speed running the RAM at 1066? I tell you what, after 4 pages of every tweak of each freqency I tried to get over 3.8 with 1066, I could not get anything stable. Not sure if the problem is me, or my adjustments. I'm having the same problem getting over 3.9 with the 800. I get a few to boot at 3.9 but I can't get them to test stable. Well I take that back, I can get Science Mark 2.0 to bench successfully over 3.9, however I cannot get 3DMark to test stable, either windows blue screens or 3DMark quits working, and it always quits working when it gets to the cpu tests.

johnnyfiive · Mar 11, 2009

Overclocking using the bus will usually give better results. My Phenom II 920 at 3.5GHz is prolly just as fast as your's at 3.7GHz if your using only the multiplier. Higher frequencies all around will give better results when compared to a higher clock speed only.

The highest I've been able to take the bus so far is 272. If I had a different motherboard with a NB multiplier I'm sure I could reach 280+ 100% stable.

tjwo94 · Mar 11, 2009

Hmm..okay, we'll I'll try increasing the bus and dropping the mulitplier. I never really thought of trying it that way, because I always see people doing it the other way around. Maybe I can get over 3.8 at 1066 if I try that...and over 3.9 @800. Back to the drawing board! I guess its a good thing the Crosshair II has a NB mulitplier, though it can make getting things stable pretty tricky. Any ideas where I should SAFELY overclock my NB? I haven't seen too many as high as I have it right now.

johnnyfiive · Mar 11, 2009

I'm not sure about a " safe " NB frequency, highest I can reach is 2,300 or so and then it becomes unstable. I really want a CrossHair II myself. AWESOME board.

tjwo94 · Mar 11, 2009

I have had a confirmed stable setting at 3.85 220x17.5 NB x13 @ 2860 Pretty crazy, but it tested out fine. hehe Go get the mobo! Going to boot up the lappy and start tweaking this again. Glad to finally get some insight that may help, thank you very much.

cdawall · Mar 11, 2009

tjwo94 said:
I have had a confirmed stable setting at 3.85 220x17.5 NB x13 @ 2860 Pretty crazy, but it tested out fine. hehe Go get the mobo!

i have tested up to 3.1ghz NB on air

tjwo94 · Mar 11, 2009

Ahhh, nice one! cdawall, you have any issues getting over 3.8 at 1066? Any insight for me?

tjwo94 · Mar 11, 2009

Well, I tried several higher bus freq. and I had a few boot up, but nothing remained stable running benchies at 800. Nothing would even post when I tried them at 1066. Could be my chip is just at it's limit. Although I guess I can't complain, It's not like 3.878 ghz is anything to be dissappointed with. I'm out of idea's otherwise unless someone else things I should try something.

cdawall · Mar 11, 2009

i can run 1266 6-5-6-16 up to 4.2 on water

tjwo94 · Mar 11, 2009

I guess im just stuck where I am at.

Darknova · Mar 12, 2009

Yey. I have a Phenom II X3 720BE arriving tomorrow

Got an amazingly good price on it!

tjwo94 · Mar 12, 2009

Does anyone have any data that shows a correlation between heat and processor instability? For example I am looking to find out at what temperature (on average) creates instability in the 940.

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Power Supply	Dell brick w/ acer end end \| Antec EW 650w \|Antec SP 350w(upg.soon)
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Power Supply	Seasonic X Series 850W KM3
Software	Windows 10 Pro x64

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Memory	G.Skill TridentZ 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3200
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System Name	el'lappy\|Cruncher \| Cruncher 2
Processor	intel C2D T6400 \| i7 3770k @4.2ghz \| AII X2 220 @3.4ghz
Motherboard	some Acer \| Asus P8Z77-V Pro \|Gigabyter GA-M61p-S3
Cooling	dual 80mm cooling fan \| WC'ing ) \|cheapo
Memory	2x2gb ddr3 \| 2x2gb Ripjaws 1600 \|4x512mb D9s
Video Card(s)	onboard \| 60 1GB(hd7770 ) \|8800GTS
Storage	Momuntus xt 320gb \|Kingston Hyper X 120gb SATA III\|500gb WD
Display(s)	17in \| 42" 1080P HD 3D TV
Case	lappy case \| CM HAF XB \|none yet
Audio Device(s)	onboard \| onboard \| onboard
Power Supply	Dell brick w/ acer end end \| Antec EW 650w \|Antec SP 350w(upg.soon)
Software	Windows 7 Ult. 64bit---->------->

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Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W
Mouse	Razer Basilisk V3 Pro
Keyboard	Tester84
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Mouse	Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
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Software	W10P

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