This is the most detailed map yet of our place in the universe

[FordGT90Concept]

There's enough UFO and USO cases with physical evidence to prove that they already have found us and did so long ago. It is statistically impossible for life to only exist on Earth. The question isn't whether or not there is life on other planets, it is how abundant is it? The reason why we can't definitely answer that question is because planets are really hard to spot, let alone analyze for the ability to support life.

 

[Countryside]

I do not feel obliged to believe the the same God who endowed us with Sense, Reason, and Intellect had also intended us to forego their use.

Galileo Galilei

 

[64K]

It is statistically impossible for life to only exist on Earth.

Herein lies the problem. We have no statistics. We have no data. We can only postulate. We have no data as to the ratio of probable life on any other planets. We can't say that in a sample of one trillion planets on average it produces X percentage of life and Z percentage of intelligent life. We have no basis of data to make any statistics. imo the Universe was teeming with life in the past and also is in the present but that's just my opinion.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Kepler got the data.

Astronomers Estimate One in Five Sol-Like Stars Have Planets Conducive to Life

How many of the 200 billion stars in our galaxy have potentially habitable planets?

Based on a statistical analysis of all the Kepler observations, astronomers at UC Berkeley and University of Hawaii, Manoa now estimate that one in five stars like the sun have planets about the size of Earth and a surface temperature conducive to life.

Given that about 20 percent of stars are sun-like, the researchers say, that amounts to several tens of billions of potentially habitable, Earth-size planets in the Milky Way Galaxy.

As per the original post, we now know that the Milky Way is a tiny part of the Laniakea supercluster and that is a tiny part of the universe. There are trillions of planets capable of sustaining life in Laniakea alone--never mind the rest of the universe.

And this is only looking at life of Sol-like planets. Red dwarfs and other stars can also have planets in orbit that could sustain life.

 

[repman244]

Kepler got the data.

Astronomers Estimate One in Five Sol-Like Stars Have Planets Conducive to Life
As per the original post, we now know that the Milky Way is a tiny part of the Laniakea supercluster and that is a tiny part of the universe. There are trillions of planets capable of sustaining life in Laniakea alone--never mind the rest of the universe.

And this is only looking at life of Sol-like planets. Red dwarfs and other stars can also have planets in orbit that could sustain life.

I don't understand why people think that the other planets need to be EXACTLY like Earth to support life? Just because we cannot survive in let's say temperatures of 100°C+ doesn't mean something else can't.
If humans can't survive on the bottom of the ocean because of extreme pressure that doesn't mean something else can't (and we all know there is life down there).

So what exactly is potentially habitable? Are we looking at it from our perspective, where the "habitable" is ~20°C, correct oxygen % etc.?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

If you really want the details, read up on the Kepler program. In short, they're looking for liquid water. Evolutionary biology on Earth suggests all life came from the oceans. Because of this, their focus for establishing whether or not life can exist on whether or not there is an abundance of liquid surface water. As the article says, just because a planet is habitable doesn't mean it is inhabited.

 

[Countryside]

Herein lies the problem. We have no statistics. We have no data. We can only postulate. We have no data as to the ratio of probable life on any other planets. We can't say that in a sample of one trillion planets on average it produces X percentage of life and Z percentage of intelligent life. We have no basis of data to make any statistics. imo the Universe was teeming with life in the past and also is in the present but that's just my opinion.

Are We Alone in the Universe Something to think about.

We have something called periodic table it took modern astrophysics to determine the origin of chemical elements (the elements of the periodic table which we are made of)

When you look at the ingredients of the universe the nr 1 ingredient is hydrogen next is helium, oxygen, carbon and nitrogen those are the top ingredients in the universe. And then we look at earth because we like to think that we are special but what are we made of so whats the nr 1 molecule in the body its Water and whats water made of H2O hydrogen and oxygen in fact when you rank the elements in the human body with the exception of helium witch is chemically inert useless to you for any reason other then to inhale and sound like a little child, so nr 1 in the human body is hydrogen nr 2 oxygen nr 3 carbon nr 4 nitrogen so we learned in the last 50 years that not only do we exist in this universe It is the universe itself that exist in us. Have we been made of some rare isotope of wulalala you would have arguments that we are something special. And now Are we alone in the universe? We are made of the most common ingredients there are and our chemistry is based on carbon, Carbon is the most chemically active ingredient in the entire periodic table if you would to find chemistry on witch to base something really complex called Life you would base it on carbon , Carbon is like the fourth most abundant ingredient in the Universe, its not rare you can make more molecules out of carbon then you can all other kinds of molecules combined so if we asks ourselves are we alone in the universe i will tell you it would be inexcusably egocentric to suggest that we are alone in the cosmos, the chemistry is too rich to declare that, the universe to big, there are more stars in the universe then grains of sand in all the beaches in the world. To say we are alone in the universe, no we havent found life outside of earth yet but we are looking havet looked very far yet galaxy is so big we have looked only a tiny bit but we are looking. So given that information Life may be inevitable.

 

[Mindweaver]

Let's say out of that 500 million light years of galaxies that make up the supercluster, the closest thing to us is only one light year away... That is still nearly 6 trillion miles away! I believe there is something else out there, but it's beyond our reach.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

And remember, the light and other radiation we are receiving from distant places in the universe likely doesn't even exist any more today but we have no way of knowing that until it reaches us. If the sun went lights out, we wouldn't even know it for over 8 minutes.

 

[64K]

And remember, the light and other radiation we are receiving from distant places in the universe likely doesn't even exist any more today but we have no way of knowing that until it reaches us. If the sun went lights out, we wouldn't even know it for over 8 minutes.

That's a problem too. Say we did pick up a transmission from an intelligent species tomorrow that is 1 million light years from us. There is no way to answer without another 1 million year pause. Did they stop listening for a reply in our area? Probably, but 2 million years goes by and anything could have happened to that species to prevent a reply. War, disease, an asteroid impact that obliterated life there etc.

 

[Tallencor]

That's a problem too. Say we did pick up a transmission from an intelligent species tomorrow that is 1 million light years from us. There is no way to answer without another 1 million year pause. Did they stop listening for a reply in our area? Probably, but 2 million years goes by and anything could have happened to that species to prevent a reply. War, disease, an asteroid impact that obliterated life there etc.

Or they just don't care anymore

 

[Locksmith]

or maybe its all a illusion in the mind..

just found the science room I've only been here 2 years.. edit oops 5yrs

nice map op.

maybe the aliens are us from the future..

 

[Countryside]

 

[newconroer]

How can there not be abundant life out there?

Its out there. Its impossible that there isn't. If there wasn't, that's an awfully big waste of space. (Contact)

There's enough UFO and USO cases with physical evidence to prove that they already have found us and did so long ago. It is statistically impossible for life to only exist on Earth. The question isn't whether or not there is life on other planets, it is how abundant is it? The reason why we can't definitely answer that question is because planets are really hard to spot, let alone analyze for the ability to support life.

Unfortunately personal desire and and a disregard for true mathematical probability, does not allow us to conclude that life does exist anywhere but right here.


Besides how come 'visitors' always crash land into Earth?





Awesome picture, but isn't the shape a bit convenient?

 

[Countryside]

As i described in my previous post will give you all something to think about, and yeah we live in a monetary system and most of the worlds people are raising their children to to the same thing over and over again which is truly sad

 

[rtwjunkie]

Let's say out of that 500 million light years of galaxies that make up the supercluster, the closest thing to us is only one light year away... That is still nearly 6 trillion miles away! I believe there is something else out there, but it's beyond our reach.

Unless NASA is successful in their "Warp drive" technology research they actually have a division working on. I couldn't stop laughing at the ludicrousness of that venture when I read it a couple months back! Everyone knows we have to wait for the Vulcans to give us the Warp technology first.

 

[Countryside]

I just wanted to say that im truly happy that i became a member of this forum because there are some really smart people here and its good that people discuss these topics so i salute you
Thank you OP for this topic.

 

[krusha03]

Unless NASA is successful in their "Warp drive" technology research they actually have a division working on. I couldn't stop laughing at the ludicrousness of that venture when I read it a couple months back! Everyone knows we have to wait for the Vulcans to give us the Warp technology first.

Actually I find that warp drive research by Dr. White amazing. I really hope if not interstellar travel at least we will have more effective travel within our solar system than chemical rockets with specific impulse of few hundred seconds. Also found some info that a Japanese company is seriously considering building a space elevator within 20 - 30 years. The technology is there (nano tubes) it just needs to be improved from few cm to few hundreds of kms This to raise the parts in orbit + electric propulsion would make space travel much more efficient and cheaper.

@on topic

The maps looks amazing and while initial communication on large distances may be a problem using quantum entanglement communication devices would in theory work far in the fugure

 

[Hilux SSRG]

Thanks for sharing, this is really fascinating.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Actually I find that warp drive research by Dr. White amazing. I really hope if not interstellar travel at least we will have more effective travel within our solar system than chemical rockets with specific impulse of few hundred seconds. Also found some info that a Japanese company is seriously considering building a space elevator within 20 - 30 years. The technology is there (nano tubes) it just needs to be improved from few cm to few hundreds of kms This to raise the parts in orbit + electric propulsion would make space travel much more efficient and cheaper.

@on topic

The maps looks amazing and while initial communication on large distances may be a problem using quantum entanglement communication devices would in theory work far in the fugure

I actually agree, all of this is fascinating! I just saw an opportunity to lighten the mood a little.

 

[Mindweaver]

Unless NASA is successful in their "Warp drive" technology research they actually have a division working on. I couldn't stop laughing at the ludicrousness of that venture when I read it a couple months back! Everyone knows we have to wait for the Vulcans to give us the Warp technology first.

Yea, I remember seeing something about that as well... Let's hope someone is working on building a Flux capacitor. :d So, we can see it in our life time. lol and I have to agree it all is very interesting.

 

[jboydgolfer]

***Speaking on the matter of other lifeforms aside from the ones on Our planet***

IMO....the Human race is a infection, an "aggressive cancer". In our defense, the way we treat this planet COULD be explained by our ignorance , or Our immaturity as a Species, but If we [as a species] continue on our current path ,i.e. destroying the planet,[AND the surrounding space], reproducing faster than we can sustain ourselves, etc...We SHOULD look @ being discovered by an "alien" species as a danger. We pose a threat to any other planet We might populate, IF our treatment of this planet is a sign of future trends. And We SHOULD at-least entertain the possibility that we COULD be viewed as such by another "alien" species. This could mean a slew of things, and could be handled in Just as many ways, by another species that is.They could be benevolent, and see us as "child like" and understand our treatment of our planet could be due to this. They could be Less than understanding, and just decide it isn't worth the risk, and destroy us. They COULD do any number of things, Assuming that They WOULD even contact us if They were aware of our presence. My point is simply this, We as a species, should be MORE concerned with growing as a species, and Learning how to Live on this planet SUSTAINABLY, rather than to Instinctively trying to "escape" it, Driven by an Almost instinctive Urge to spread our species throughout the galaxy, it concerns Me that the More I consider Humans, and they're behavior, The more I find it difficult to ignore the fact that We resemble a plague. I am of the opinion that unless our current behavior is adjusted in a positive direction, another species will have No reason to WANT to reach out to us, at-least in a positive way. On the other side of the Coin, We COULD have done Worse as a species as well, meaning I guess we could all be dead by now, due to War, pollution EVEN worse than We are already inflicting, etc. I DO feel like We have some Very considerable positive attributes, and that we are "Worthy" of our existence, I just hope we make some positive progress in treating our home better before concerning ourselves with finding another, and the same goes with treating our friends better, before We try to find More.

This is not an argument, or in rebuttal to anything anyone here has said, it is simply My opinion.

 

[Solaris17]

This is some crazy shit.

 

[Ahhzz]

Kepler got the data.

Astronomers Estimate One in Five Sol-Like Stars Have Planets Conducive to Life
As per the original post, we now know that the Milky Way is a tiny part of the Laniakea supercluster and that is a tiny part of the universe. There are trillions of planets capable of sustaining life in Laniakea alone--never mind the rest of the universe.

How many of the 200 billion stars in our galaxy have potentially habitable planets?

Based on a statistical analysis of all the Kepler observations, astronomers at UC Berkeley and University of Hawaii, Manoa now estimate that one in five stars like the sun have planets about the size of Earth and a surface temperature conducive to life.

Given that about 20 percent of stars are sun-like, the researchers say, that amounts to several tens of billions of potentially habitable, Earth-size planets in the Milky Way Galaxy.

And this is only looking at life of Sol-like planets. Red dwarfs and other stars can also have planets in orbit that could sustain life.

I've just one question. In an infinite universe, how much is 20% of infinity?

edited to add the quote from astronomers

 

[Solaris17]

I've just one question. In an infinite universe, how much is 20% of infinity?

considering infinite is a ridiculous amount then it only stands to reason 20% is almost completely unfathomable. Jesus dude seriously.