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[Deleted member 67555]

[QUOTE="rtwjunkie, post: 3169826, member: 56774" Everyone knows we have to wait for the Vulcans to give us the Warp technology first. [/QUOTE]
Uhm...NO!
We developed warp on our own and the Vulcans found us because the very first warp test...Lucky for us as they were just about to leave...
But yes they then held us back 90 years...still our tech tho


just sayin

 

[Mindweaver]

I've just one question. In an infinite universe, how much is 20% of infinity?

That's a hard one.. to explain, but I'll try.. let's see it's something like this (in) much of infinity is a little over 20% of (in)finity, but more like (ir) would be a true 20% of infinity by splitting both "n"'s. [I'll use | as the other part of the "n" to show you] (ir)(|f)(ir)(|i)(ty). Essentially any of the 5 broken out in () of infinity would be 20%.... and boom goes the dynamite!

 

[64K]

I've just one question. In an infinite universe, how much is 20% of infinity?

edited to add the quote from astronomers

Well, the number of stars and planets isn't infinite. It's an impossibly hard number for me to grasp but it's not infinite. You can't have 20% of infinity because infinity isn't a number. It's a concept.

 

[Ahhzz]

We could dance that one. Since, in an infinite universe, there is infinite space, there is the potential for an infinite number of stars an planets. QED

 

[TheMailMan78]

Well, the number of stars and planets isn't infinite. It's an impossibly hard number for me to grasp but it's not infinite. You can't have 20% of infinity because infinity isn't a number. It's a concept.

How do you know its not infinite? Been there yet? I've tasted sound. Doesn't mean sound has taste. Just means my mind came up with the concept in an altered state.

 

[64K]

How do you know its not infinite? Been there yet? I've tasted sound. Doesn't mean sound has taste. Just means my mind came up with the concept in an altered state.

Space itself may be infinite but I don't think the number of stars and planets is infinite. That would mean the Big Bang produced an infinite amount of matter or that matter is constantly being created out of seemingly nothing on an infinite scale but even if that is true there is a finite number of stars and planets at any given moment.

 

[Ahhzz]

Olber's paradox Meh, the jury is still out on an infinite Universe at this point (altho, being a Heinlen follower, I do enjoy the Multiverse theory), but I think by definition, in an Infinite Universe, with unlimited space/time, there would be an infinite number of stars and planets. There could potentially be a space that we could "theoretically" reach, given an infinite amount of time to get there, where we would no longer see any stars or planets, but since, by this hypothesis, the universe is infinite, we could also just be unable to see far enough to determine for fact that there were no other cosmic bodies.

Conversely, in a finite universe, there may be too many to count (as in "how many grains of sand on the beach"), but could be mathematically defined by formula, if not by actual number.

*cheers* Always enjoy these discussions too bad we'll all be micro-dust before an answer is ever determined

 

[TheMailMan78]

Olber's paradox Meh, the jury is still out on an infinite Universe at this point (altho, being a Heinlen follower, I do enjoy the Multiverse theory), but I think by definition, in an Infinite Universe, with unlimited space/time, there would be an infinite number of stars and planets. There could potentially be a space that we could "theoretically" reach, given an infinite amount of time to get there, where we would no longer see any stars or planets, but since, by this hypothesis, the universe is infinite, we could also just be unable to see far enough to determine for fact that there were no other cosmic bodies.

Conversely, in a finite universe, there may be too many to count (as in "how many grains of sand on the beach"), but could be mathematically defined by formula, if not by actual number.

*cheers* Always enjoy these discussions too bad we'll all be micro-dust before an answer is ever determined

If there is an infinite amount of Multiverse and dimensions then in theory there is a universe and dimension were there is no Multiverse and dimension. Your move.

 

[Countryside]