What's different from normal keyboard to gaming keyboard?

[BumbleBee]

well the keyboard speaks for it self but the OCZ Equalizer is a re-brand of the A4Tech X-750F and the Equalizer, X-750F and X-710 use the Agilent 6010 Laser Engine which is the same as Razer Copperhead but it is locked into 125Hz Polling Rate and cannot be overclocked (usually you can overclock any mouse to 1000hz) which makes the movement really jerky.

 

[RadeonX2]

well the keyboard speaks for it self but the OCZ Equalizer is a re-brand of the A4Tech X-750F and both the X-750F and X-710 use the Agilent 6010 Laser Engine (same as Razer Copperhead) but it is locked into 125Hz Polling Rate and cannot be overclocked which makes it really jerky.

thanks for clarifying My friends with Razers said that if you sucked at FPS using a cheap mouse then that's basically the same if you'd switch to Razer mouse you will mostly sucked too as it will most depend on how good a player is. Are Razers and Logitechs gaming M&KB can really make a big diff. interms of gaming especially FPS? I'd get the Razer KB just for their backlight and additional keys. Bit is it worth buying?

 

[BumbleBee]

ok let me give you an example. download this video it's a demonstration in Counter-Strike: Source the first set of circular motions are with the Razer Copperhead which in principle is the same mouse but pulling 1000hz and is very smooth then the video pauses and another set of circular motions are done this time with the OCZ Equalizer but pulling only 125hz and you can notice the jerkiness.

 

[RadeonX2]

DL'ing right now. How about the diff. in keyboard? only the extra keys and backlight bling?

 

[TechnicalFreak]

thanks for clarifying My friends with Razers said that if you sucked at FPS using a cheap mouse then that's basically the same if you'd switch to Razer mouse you will mostly sucked too as it will most depend on how good a player is. Are Razers and Logitechs gaming M&KB can really make a big diff. interms of gaming especially FPS? I'd get the Razer KB just for their backlight and additional keys. Bit is it worth buying?

Actually I find that true. I was testing a friends son's Steelseries Ikari (WoW edition) with CS:S, and found no big difference what so ever. However, he can only use one hand, he has cerebral parlis or whatever it's called. He had a Razer (my old) and found that this was better just because it had more buttons on the mouse.

And keyboards, well gaming keyboards not all, but some have this "anti ghosting" ability. Dunno how it works, but it's idéa is that you should be able to press certain keys without that sticky feeling or the computer giving you a "BEEP" sound.

 

[BumbleBee]

well not to sound like your mother but you shouldn't play video games in the dark it's bad for your eyes and if you haven't mastered where your keys are you got problems! like uv dyes some backlights or leds are brighter than others. G-Keys like on the Logitech G15 or Macros are not very useful in First Person Shooters however you may find them useful in games like World of Warcraft or other MMO however even if your keyboard doesn't have G-Keys you can still bind Macros to it by a tool called AutoHotKey and it is much more versatile and advanced than the G15 Drivers and you can use it on any keyboard. so when you eliminate all the features of a "gaming keyboard" you are really left with Switches and Build Quality. what I have been trying to tell people is the difference between a $10 Keyboard and a $80 Logitech or Razer Keyboard is very small it's all about marketing and markup you are not getting the value and performance you should be getting at that price point.

 

[RadeonX2]

Well I have good lighting in my room and I don't use or game in the dark. That pretty much sums up thank you very much BumbleBee and TechnicalFreak for enlightening me the diff bet. Normal M&KB and between those expensive M&KB. I totally forgot the G15 has that little LCD which it can display temps and FPS or other info. So the build quality difference between cheap and expensive M&KB are basically almost the same but the functionality, shortcut keys, LCD display, the backlight bling and other functions are almost found on the expensive M&KB.

 

[BumbleBee]

exactly they all have plastic housings, plastic keys, rubber dome membranes and rubber feet. the difference between the $10 Keyboard and $80 Keyboard are like what you said the extra trimmings but almost all those trimmings can be done with a $10 Keyboard. the difference between a $10 Keyboard and a $100 Mechanical Keyboard is very big like thermoplastic key caps which is a higher quality and can with stand higher temperatures, laser etched or engraved keys so in 10-20 years the keys look just as good when you first bought it, bigger nipples (bumps on the F and J keys), gold plated connectors for optimal conductivity, cherry switches are much faster and durable than rubber domes, metal plates for durability, n-key rollover, some keyboards like the SteelSeries 7G and Gigabyte GK-K8000 come with 2 sets of keys black and grey with a key changer so you can switch them out or make a pattern or have replacements, Gigabyte GK-K8000 has it's own sound card a vista certified integrated c-media 6300 chip in it so all you have to do is plug your microphone or headphones in and thats it other keyboards that have microphone and headphone audio ports simply relay or act as a extension cord.

 

[Mussels]

the 518 is 1800Dpi @ max setting and i find it to be "twitchy" but i don't use a mouse pad, i just run it on my desk i "palm" not "claw" i think? lol i just noticed it's optical and not laser maybe i'll have another look and see what they got in store, might find smethin better?



thnx for the input and don't forget about the sticker's! each sticker is 10Hp i seen the prototype they had and IIRC it was sporting the terminator engine from the cobra's

the G5 is the same as the MX518, except with a laser. if you get the 2007 revision (rev 2 in some places) it has two thumb buttons, making it just like the 518. the G5 '07 is my preferred mouse.


a few people asked how this stuff affects gaming: its simple, they dont. if you sucked beforehand, you will suck afterwards.

I've got cheap, 10 year old microsoft mouse that i game with just as great as my logitech G5 - the difference is the extra buttons (mic use/melee in most games), THEY help my gaming... and comfort. I can use my G5 for hours and hours without noticing, but if i use cheap, poorly designed mice my hand tends to cramp within 2 hours of use.

 

[BumbleBee]

very first optical I used was a microsoft mouse, what a upgrade over a ball mouse. I believe it was one of the original intellipoint it was white had a red translucent surface underneath, very durable, cost $80 when it first came out this was in 97 or 98.

 

[Mussels]

very first optical I used was a microsoft mouse, what a upgrade over a ball mouse. I believe it was one of the original intellipoint it was white had a red translucent surface underneath, very durable, cost $80 when it first came out this was in 97 or 98.

those are the ones i have. i STILL have three in working, as new condition. the generations after that (the black ones and the smaller, glossy ones) sucked so bad in comparison.

These are from the era before thumb buttons, when having a wheel with scroll was awsome.

 

[BumbleBee]

I probably had the same one you are using. it looked like this one.

 

[Mussels]

I probably had the same one you are using. it looked like this one.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2z3rifn.jpg

thats the exact one.

 

[BumbleBee]

yeah but I don't remember the grey on the sides, instead of the grey I think it was the red translucent plastic.

 

[Mussels]

yeah but I don't remember the grey on the sides, instead of the grey I think it was the red translucent plastic.

the red clear section is just at the rear, and the grey has the red glowing through it from the optical light.

 

[Mussels]

I had a different model then. the red translucent plastic was at the rear and sides. this one looks a little more familiar.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2yn4enl.jpg

thats the same mouse - the grey plastic just glows red. There is two versions, a light grey and a dark grey. the light grey (in both those pics) the red glows through. The dark grey (the older model) didnt glow thorough, but was the same hardware wise.

 

[intel igent]

the G5 is the same as the MX518, except with a laser. if you get the 2007 revision (rev 2 in some places) it has two thumb buttons, making it just like the 518. the G5 '07 is my preferred mouse.


a few people asked how this stuff affects gaming: its simple, they dont. if you sucked beforehand, you will suck afterwards.

I've got cheap, 10 year old microsoft mouse that i game with just as great as my logitech G5 - the difference is the extra buttons (mic use/melee in most games), THEY help my gaming... and comfort. I can use my G5 for hours and hours without noticing, but if i use cheap, poorly designed mice my hand tends to cramp within 2 hours of use.

thnx

i don't suck but i do think better equipment can help while gaming

 

[Mussels]

All of those i've ever owned was USB, but they came with a PS2 adaptor.

you also posted that same message twice.

 

[BumbleBee]

maybe it did have grey on it and I am remembering wrong. anyways it was usb but had a ps/2 adapter and cost a lot but was worth every penny lasted 3 years before my cat got to it it was one of the reasons I bought the SteelSeries Ikari Laser I love a good heavy and durable mouse.

 

[Mussels]

Here ya go


It came out a little weird cause my camera hates working without the flash on, but having the flash on hid the light from the mouse.

Same mouse, one plugged in one not.

 

[BumbleBee]

ok mine definitely didn't have any grey on it the bottom was completely red and translucent and the area around your sensor is a outer indentation mine was inner indentation and had a square slope.

 

[Mussels]

also that goes to show how my the paint is wearing off my space bar on my keyboard.

even expensive keyboards that are laser etched wear out after years of abuse.

 

[caleb]

PRO Gaming keyboard:
- can be able to hit 4 buttons at once without locking up
- soft/silent touch when you spam keys

- half height of default keys (NOT like laptop but 50% of regular keyboard)
- a wire

(You would be surprised how many keyboards dont meet these 4 requrements)

Gaming keyboard:
- LCD screen
- remapable buttons
- named buttons
- soem gay mechanisms
- anything else that goes off the default key list
- sexy colours
- a box quote saying "now you will own everybody"
- price
- in some cases it might be missing a cord (OMG?!We all know how cordless ends in real fights!)
- drivers

Normal keyboard:
- standard height
- loud and hard touch
- most likely will block itself on 4 button spam
- has standard button mechanism. Loud and hard in touch. Wears out very quickly when used under extreme FPS games or even at work

 

[BumbleBee]

I had a laser etched keyboard and the only thing that happened was the keys started to change colour thats all.

 

[Mussels]

I had a laser etched key board and the only thing that happened was the keys started to change colour thats all.

they claim its laser etched, but it still looks painted to me. my A S D and spacebar (where my thumb rests) have all started to fade. but hell, the keyboards 2+ years old.