X800 GTO² to X850 XT BIOS Mod

[mascaras]

yep, its that card .

 

[Ombracol]

Ombracol,
do you have a power cable from your PSU to power your card, oe are you using the cable that was supplied with your card? Some people think that the three wire connector that comes with the card may be the culprit vs. the six wire connector that comes with certain PSU's.

I'm using the one that came with my card i wanted to get a psu but i have a sony and all there stuff is custom but i got lucky its a 375w psu i am gonna replace the motherboard so i can oc the processor and maybe memory .I think you can also oc the pci port increase its bandwith but sony wants me to install the motherboard at there service place....yeah right and they said they couldnt guarentee that my software would work wich is crap i should just have built my own pc but all in all i am happy with the case does a great job of keeping everything cool thats why i am holding off on a cooler for my gto cause it takes up to much space and not worth it atleast for me.... Its good if you have a warm case cause i have heard you dont get to much oc out of the coolers.....unless you have a warm case cause its all about ambient temp... I will probably get a cooler when my fan burns out cause i have to keep it at 100% all the time

 

[DanishDevil]

http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/product.asp?pid=12993#
this is the right card? because i want to order.

Yep, that's the one.

Ombracol,
do you have a power cable from your PSU to power your card, oe are you using the cable that was supplied with your card? Some people think that the three wire connector that comes with the card may be the culprit vs. the six wire connector that comes with certain PSU's.

That's what I'm thinking. I'm gonna order one of those new Enermax Liberties, Most likely the 680W in case I go Crossfire and Athlon 64 FX soon. The standard 6-pin PEC power connector comes with 3 12V leads and 3 grounds (just going by the color of the wires here, so sorry if i'm wrong) and the adapter comes with 2 12V leads and 1 ground.

I think you can also oc the pci port increase its bandwith

I have my PEC Bandwadth at 110MHz vs the original 100MHz. I'm gonna try bumping it up and see if it aids OCing.

 

[Dr.D]

Well I called atacom and they dont seem to have any idea when they are gonna get the cards

 

[Ombracol]

what games are you guys playing

 

[DanishDevil]

Well I called atacom and they dont seem to have any idea when they are gonna get the cards

GL with that man.

I play America's Army and the F.E.A.R. Multiplayer Demo. I play each at 1600x1200 and get about 45+FPS on medium settings in F.E.A.R. and all settings maxed in AA for about 65+FPS. I love em both.

 

[Ombracol]

yeah i've been playing fear single player is real good the thing that sux is that i have an lcd so everything caps at 60 fps cause i have to enable vsync if i dont i get a splitting screen crts a re real cheap now i might get one of those or maybe save up for a high def you can get some for 800 dollars now

 

[p0lly]

I have the 6 wire cable from my PSU powering my card, but I havn't flashed to XTPE yet because i'm still burning in my card... i burnt in my old x800pro VIVO over a one week period and noticed a HUGE!!! decrease in temp's that the core and mem were running at. once i feel that my card can run at those speeds (safely), i'll let everyone know if i experience the same fan problems that others are experiencing.

Ombracol, there is no point in going over 60FPS... the human eye can't see the difference (you will not notice a playing difference between 60 and 100FPS)... the ONLY reason that higher FPS is better is because your MIN FPS in a hugh fire fight (or whatever) may be noticed. EX. 40 FPS (average) is VERY playable as long as it never drops below 40 - which we all know is not the case. if you turn off Vsync and crank up the AA and AF, that will limit your FPS to under 60... horizontal tearing will stop, and you don't have to go and dish out that extra $$$.

 

[Ombracol]

thanks polly

 

[DanishDevil]

I have the 6 wire cable from my PSU powering my card, but I havn't flashed to XTPE yet because i'm still burning in my card... i burnt in my old x800pro VIVO over a one week period and noticed a HUGE!!! decrease in temp's that the core and mem were running at. once i feel that my card can run at those speeds (safely), i'll let everyone know if i experience the same fan problems that others are experiencing.

Ombracol, there is no point in going over 60FPS... the human eye can't see the difference (you will not notice a playing difference between 60 and 100FPS)... the ONLY reason that higher FPS is better is because your MIN FPS in a hugh fire fight (or whatever) may be noticed. EX. 40 FPS (average) is VERY playable as long as it never drops below 40 - which we all know is not the case. if you turn off Vsync and crank up the AA and AF, that will limit your FPS to under 60... horizontal tearing will stop, and you don't have to go and dish out that extra $$$.

I agree. I play at 60FPS max on America's Army, and the thing is, the FPS NEVER crosses the 60/65 border. EVER. The thing I notice about ATi Cards vs. nVidia Cards is that ATi's Cards have a much more solid framerate. I had an MSI 6800GT before the X800GTO2, and it got like 120 FPS at times, but it would drop to like 20 in smoke. In AquaMark 3 with the 6800GT, the smoke would drop it to 20, and the X800GTO2 doesn't go below 45.

Overall, steady FPS above 40-50 is the best you're gonna get (any better doesn't matter).

 

[Qtax]

Dead BIOS link

Don't know if anyone said this lately but the "original Connect3D X800 GTO bios" link in
Original, unmodified Bios: Sapphire X800 GTO² | Connect3D X800 GTO
(in the article) is broken. It should be:
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/127/images/Connect3D.X800GTO.Samsung20.bin
s/Sapphire/Connect3D/;

 

[mike_dude_]

My Connect3D X800 GTO unlocked to 16p, no problems there,boosted 3dMark05 from 4493 to 5050 ...
But my card must be the worst overclocker ever.. Max stabel Core 435 and mem 510 with ATITool. Gpu max temp 72C.
What is limiting my core oc? High temerature? Bad sample? Or is it something about the powercable that came with the card( read something about it in a previous post)?

 

[VTwedge]

flashing the connect3d gto

hey guys anyone who is flashing a connect3d x800 gto do this: save your original bios, flash an X800XT bios not an X850xt since that is for the r480 cores the connect3d gto has an r423 core and the x800xt has an r423 core, then flash back your original bios. oh and use atiflash! you dont have to reinstall drivers for it. i flashed mine like 3 weeks ago, its workin fine. followed the flash procedure described above booted into windows ati tools immediately saw 16 pipelines, so did rivatuner, drivers loaded normally! as for the guy who was wondering what was wrong with his overclocking with the connect3d he should know that the memory chips r samsungs 2ns rated at 500mhz so it wont overclock as high as the gto2 who has 1.6ns memory chips rated at 600mhz! the 423core is closer to the 430 core which is an x800xl card. best speed you are gonna get is 520/520 with preferably a third party cooler.oh and by the way i left mine running at the default speeds and im gettin better scores in 3dmark05 than an x800xl i also got mine running 520/520 but it was gettin too hot so if you are gonna overclock make sure you have sufficient cooling. cheers and best of luck!

 

[mascaras]

look what score a portuguese user do with conect3d moded 560/580>>>> -- take that

 

[nick255]

My Connect3D X800 GTO unlocked to 16p, no problems there,boosted 3dMark05 from 4493 to 5050 ...
But my card must be the worst overclocker ever.. Max stabel Core 435 and mem 510 with ATITool. Gpu max temp 72C.
What is limiting my core oc? High temerature? Bad sample? Or is it something about the powercable that came with the card( read something about it in a previous post)?

Temperature certainly limits the overclock you can get with this card, using a waterblock i managed to get the core to 549mhz before it crashed..... the temperature was still low so i think it probably needs more voltage to go higher but im not gonna try a voltmod just yet.

Actually while i was running 3dmark, i didnt notice one of the pipes had kinked, and it crashed with the core at 86c so i guess thats a temperature to avoid!

 

[mike_dude_]

I will get the "Aero Cool Video Magic VM-102" or "Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer 5 ATI REV.2" to get better cooling. But I doubt that I will reach 500 on the core when it's only doing 435 with stock cooling, running the fan at 100%. I kow the C3D uses slower mem, so not so disappointed in that respect, but the gpu clock was a big letdown...
Or does anybody know if better cooling will boost overclocking much? Well, at least the gpu will run cooler and quieter!

 

[mascaras]

very strange do you saw the cloks that my portuguese friend put in his conect3d card '?? 560/580 and its the same card and same memorys that you have .

 

[Ombracol]

My Connect3D X800 GTO unlocked to 16p, no problems there,boosted 3dMark05 from 4493 to 5050 ...
But my card must be the worst overclocker ever.. Max stabel Core 435 and mem 510 with ATITool. Gpu max temp 72C.
What is limiting my core oc? High temerature? Bad sample? Or is it something about the powercable that came with the card( read something about it in a previous post)?

ambient temp my friend my gpu never goes above 60 c and my ambient temp in my case is 30 idle 38 full load i had an issue whe i couldnt go higher than 520 540 when my case would be at 40 idle and 48 full load cranked all my fans to 100% got temp inside case low and now i get 554/614 if you have warm case the air is to warm to cool your gpu so try to get your case temp down not to mention i am using the stock cooler

 

[Ombracol]

I will get the "Aero Cool Video Magic VM-102" or "Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer 5 ATI REV.2" to get better cooling. But I doubt that I will reach 500 on the core when it's only doing 435 with stock cooling, running the fan at 100%. I kow the C3D uses slower mem, so not so disappointed in that respect, but the gpu clock was a big letdown...
Or does anybody know if better cooling will boost overclocking much? Well, at least the gpu will run cooler and quieter!

aftermarket coolers work great if you cant get your case temps down but if you can keep your case temp low aftermarket cooler will only benefit you by keeping your pc quiet as for oc it will aid very minimal unless like i keep saying you have a hot case. the aftermarket cooler will help bring you case temp down wich will then aid in being able to oc at a higher speed..gpu will always get warm under load its about how effective your able to decipitate that heat and if its warm in your case it wont do that great of a job

 

[VTwedge]

560/580?? are you sure he is using a connect3d gto card?!?!?! max memory i could push it was 550 and the core at 465 at that! are you sure he is not using an x800xt overclocked mascaras?!?! unless he is watercooling the cpu and memory chips i dont see how he got that high

 

[Scenatic]

Flashed my Connect3D GTO yersterday......could get the card to 531 core and 531 Mem by now. 3D Mark 05 result was 6173 Points.

Still using the stock cooler but thinking about to get my system watercooled. Let´s see wat time brings us^^

 

[nick255]

560/580?? are you sure he is using a connect3d gto card?!?!?! max memory i could push it was 550 and the core at 465 at that! are you sure he is not using an x800xt overclocked mascaras?!?! unless he is watercooling the cpu and memory chips i dont see how he got that high

Ild say you would have to put some active coolin on the memory chips of some kind, im not being funny but my memory clocked at 530, the heatsinks i put on them can burn ur fingers!

 

[Ombracol]

gto2 279 now at new egg

 

[HousERaT]

It seems that as the number of cards get less and less, the price is going up. Especially at Newegg.

 

[mascaras]

VTwedge, yes im sure is a conect3d x800GTO he bought it in same shop i buy my x800GTO and his using a zalman vf700 and ramsinks on memorys. And you saw x800XT cause its same core (r423 moded=x800xt) and same bios, the bios that you flash conect3d its not the same bios that you flash GTO2(r480 moded= x850xt)