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Dynamic

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How do you go back to 12pp on the C3D GTO's? I wanted to test it at stock 12pp 400/490 since i'm having freezes. I'm assuming this is due to my board in somehow since nobody has any freezing/lockup's with this mod?

I'm thinking....

I have my original backup bios c3dgto.bin
2)Atiflash -f -p 0 c3dgto.bin -newbios
3)Atiflash -f -p 0 c3dgto.bin w/o -newbios

Is that how you can have it back to the settings/bios that it came with from the box?
 

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Dynamic said:
How do you go back to 12pp on the C3D GTO's? I wanted to test it at stock 12pp 400/490 since i'm having freezes. I'm assuming this is due to my board in somehow since nobody has any freezing/lockup's with this mod?

I'm thinking....

I have my original backup bios c3dgto.bin
2)Atiflash -f -p 0 c3dgto.bin -newbios
3)Atiflash -f -p 0 c3dgto.bin w/o -newbios

Is that how you can have it back to the settings/bios that it came with from the box?
No, it's simpler than that. You said the filename is c3dgto.bin, so the command would be this:

atiflash -f -p 0 c3dgto.bin -newbios

That's all there is to it. No need for another flash, since you are going back to your original. I tried it out yesterday and it got my card back to its original 12 pipelines.
 
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Damn dudes, i think there is something wrong with my motherboard and this C3D GTO card. Keep getting freezes and lock-ups at anytime and anywhere. I just flashed from 1.20 to 1.30 for my ASRock 939Dual-Sata2 and went back to the original bios for my C3D GTO card @12pp 400/490 to see if i keep getting freezes again. Also did any of you use the PCI-E power cable that came with the box or did you use your own PCI-E from your PSU? I'm using my OCZ 520 Modstream connector instead of the one in the box, what's yellow and black wires? Why only two? Also there is another 4pin power connector on the card i believe, but the fan is only using the 2pin? I don't know, but this is sure pissing me off. I got some good scores too...wanna see...

GTO12PP 400/490
3Dmark03:10123
3Dmark05:4566
GTO16PP 540/565
3Dmark03:13017
3Dmark05:6389 <--- I have my rig overclocked, so that's why....

3000+ Venice E3 @270X9=2430 1.45V Memory: (166) @221mhz 2225-1t 3.4v w/ocz booster
PCI-E ASYNC @100 CPU-NB:600

Oh almost forgot, thank you so much "SHADOW" for helping me out with this, you're very kind.
 

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Hey, should be getting my C3D X800GTO tomorrow. Is it possible to not plug in the PCIe power connector in the card and use my ASUS A8N-SLI's EZplug power plug instead?
 
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jeffreyyan,
The one that comes with the GTO box has only two wires compared to the one from PSU which is all 6 wires. I don't know how, but i'm not using the one that comes with the box, can't understand why they would send that. The GTO2 from Saphirre, does it come with a two wire PCI-E cable also, anyone?
 

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Dynamic said:
jeffreyyan,
The one that comes with the GTO box has only two wires compared to the one from PSU which is all 6 wires. I don't know how, but i'm not using the one that comes with the box, can't understand why they would send that. The GTO2 from Saphirre, does it come with a two wire PCI-E cable also, anyone?
GTO2 comes with a 3 cable connector - 2 black, one yellow.
 
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p0lly,
I wonder why these cases, is there a particular reason why these PCI-E should be running not fully power managable like others?
 

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Well ZZF had them in stock for less than 30min then went out again:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :mad:
 
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i use the cable that cames with box i put the power cable in card then to the hard drive and then to the psu , but wy wont work with you guys=?????
 
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I think the reason why this card "Connect3D X800GTO" is not working for me is because of the fact that my mother board might have an issue with the mod. It's working totally fine right now, as least with 12pp 560/580 3DMark05:5915 which is pretty damn good i suppose, right? If i mod it again and still gives me freezes and lockups i'll just leave it at 12pp but try to bring the core/memory higher then 560/580 with the Zalman VF700-CU which is on its way. I did flash my motherboard with the latest bios "1.30" and i haven't modded my card back to 16pp since i'm doing further testing at the moment.


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OCZ EL DDR400 (Set to DDR333) @221mhz 2225-1t 3.4v OCZ Booster
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Connect3D X800 GTO @12pp 560/580 (freezing issue @16pp)
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Dynamic ,but where you have freezes and lockups , like playing????
 

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DanishDevil said:
74C is VERY hot. Although the card may be running stable, it is struggling nonetheless. With temps like that, I bet that card won't last a year on that frequency. Get some aftermarket cooling on that. I've got mine at 522/618 running max 59C on stock cooling. My card produces artifacts at any higher speeds, and I'm going Zalman V700-CULED in a week or so.

How hot is ok then? ATi tool doesn't even power up the fan to 100% until you hit 90 and I assume W1zzard knows what he's doing? 74C seems a bit hot compared to i.e a CPU which normally shuts down at those temps. So how hot can we have this thing be and still be fine?
 

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Im not trying to beat a dead horse but, Ive looked throught the whole thread..lol, anyhow i just ordered the Sapphire X800 GTO (the agp version) from newegg, im constrained on cash right now and it seemed to be the best value per price otherwise i would have gone for the 6800 series, now seeing from some posts earlier in the thread, some people have also ordered the Sapphire X800 GTO (AGP version) and said they were going to attempt to unlock the 4 pipelines, has anyone had any luck? Also where are people getting their Connect 3D GTO's from? Im considering possibly sending back the Sapphire card if it is unlockable and getting the C3D card instead but i would like to order it from a site thats trustable, since ive been using newegg for a while now and i can't find a C3D on there. And a final question, With my rig's spec's below im worried that my CPU might be my bottleneck in games, im not having any issues with my current Radeon 9800 Pro but im concerned that with such games as F.E.A.R and X3 Reunion might shaft my CPU.
 

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Karmalicious said:
How hot is ok then? ATi tool doesn't even power up the fan to 100% until you hit 90 and I assume W1zzard knows what he's doing? 74C seems a bit hot compared to i.e a CPU which normally shuts down at those temps. So how hot can we have this thing be and still be fine?
first rule of any computer component is to keep as cool as posible, not only will it save your product might also see performance gains .I oc my gto2 to 554 614 and keep the fan always at 100% or have it go to 100% when it reaches 50 my card never goes over 60c idle is 34 it seems your case is also warm cause ambient temp affects performance too. Anything over 65 is too hot even 60 is hot remember heat is your enemy i would hate to ask how hot your cpu is? How hot is it ? :) and case i keep my case at 30idle 41 under load i had an issue where i had my fans set half way and my case was warmer than that and i wasnt able to oc past 540 540 so try to keep it cool and might see a big improvement ....
 

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Maksim said:
Im not trying to beat a dead horse but, Ive looked throught the whole thread..lol, anyhow i just ordered the Sapphire X800 GTO (the agp version) from newegg, im constrained on cash right now and it seemed to be the best value per price otherwise i would have gone for the 6800 series, now seeing from some posts earlier in the thread, some people have also ordered the Sapphire X800 GTO (AGP version) and said they were going to attempt to unlock the 4 pipelines, has anyone had any luck? Also where are people getting their Connect 3D GTO's from? Im considering possibly sending back the Sapphire card if it is unlockable and getting the C3D card instead but i would like to order it from a site thats trustable, since ive been using newegg for a while now and i can't find a C3D on there. And a final question, With my rig's spec's below im worried that my CPU might be my bottleneck in games, im not having any issues with my current Radeon 9800 Pro but im concerned that with such games as F.E.A.R and X3 Reunion might shaft my CPU.
I have fear it is a system hog my gto2 does a good job with this game but you can see it strugle at maximum setting you have to fine tune the setting but this game was meant for a 2 card setup if you want to enjoy it at maximum quality with no hick up. but it is still a great game and messing with the setting for about 20 mins i found a good balance i still drop to about 25fps durring some gunplay but i average about 60fps it has a built in benchmark wich is pretty cool
 
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Ombracol said:
first rule of any computer component is to keep as cool as posible, not only will it save your product might also see performance gains .I oc my gto2 to 554 614 and keep the fan always at 100% or have it go to 100% when it reaches 50 my card never goes over 60c idle is 34 it seems your case is also warm cause ambient temp affects performance too. Anything over 65 is too hot even 60 is hot remember heat is your enemy i would hate to ask how hot your cpu is? How hot is it ? :) and case i keep my case at 30idle 41 under load i had an issue where i had my fans set half way and my case was warmer than that and i wasnt able to oc past 540 540 so try to keep it cool and might see a big improvement ....

DAMN that's like reading my own handwriting. You don't use periods, and I think it's a waste of space to put spaces in between my words . . .

Anyway, I completely agree. The cooler, the better. It will yield higher overclocks, extend the life of yokur components, and give you some sweet bragging rights too!

I have my card running at the same idle and load temps as you, and I manually shut down my comp if the GPU gets over 60C. Now if I had my Zalman, I wouldn't worry, but on this stock cooler, I wouldn't trust it over 60C.
 
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hi guys, im getting problems entering in windows , sometimes dont restart and sometimes i get errors in windows at restart , do you guys think it could be because of the MOD or maybe drivers conflits???
 
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mascaras said:
hi guys, im getting problems entering in windows , sometimes dont restart and sometimes i get errors in windows at restart , do you guys think it could be because of the MOD or maybe drivers conflits???

It's possible. If your card is OCed, set it to stock for now. I'll wait for a second opinion on the bios. How are your temps? What it sounds like to me is either temps or too much OC.
 
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it was drivers conflits with TV card , but i change bios to the powercolor x800xt bios and clocks change too to 500/500(stock clocks of X800XT) , i have water cooling the card with 500/500 have 31c idle and 41 full.
 
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mascaras said:
hi guys, im getting problems entering in windows , sometimes dont restart and sometimes i get errors in windows at restart , do you guys think it could be because of the MOD or maybe drivers conflits???

Looks like power issue. Try a low OC.

hummm, newegg just raise the price of a GTO2 oem...
 
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Maksim said:
Im not trying to beat a dead horse but, Ive looked throught the whole thread..lol, anyhow i just ordered the Sapphire X800 GTO (the agp version) from newegg, im constrained on cash right now and it seemed to be the best value per price otherwise i would have gone for the 6800 series, now seeing from some posts earlier in the thread, some people have also ordered the Sapphire X800 GTO (AGP version) and said they were going to attempt to unlock the 4 pipelines, has anyone had any luck? Also where are people getting their Connect 3D GTO's from? Im considering possibly sending back the Sapphire card if it is unlockable and getting the C3D card instead but i would like to order it from a site thats trustable, since ive been using newegg for a while now and i can't find a C3D on there. And a final question, With my rig's spec's below im worried that my CPU might be my bottleneck in games, im not having any issues with my current Radeon 9800 Pro but im concerned that with such games as F.E.A.R and X3 Reunion might shaft my CPU.

I got my Connect3D X800GTO from Monarchcomputers.com. They don't charge tax which is so freaking cool, i live in Cali, and they're located in Georgia. Try them, also i think they even have the Sapphire GTO available now too.
 

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Took you guys' advice and got me a Zalman v700-cu. Now I got to oc to 570/570 and temperature never exceeds 65 degrees. 38 idle. I guess my case sucks since it gets 43 degrees in there on load.

New 3dmark05 score also. Not as impresseive as I would like considering I raised the core 50 Mhz.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5954/200510263kb.jpg

Still happy about everything though. :)
 

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Yall getting some sweet temps w/ the zalman. Mine runs hot, but its fast.

Case temp 37c idle / 41 c load
Stock cooling
400/490 48c idle / 71c load 16pipe
551/551 48c idle / 74c load
591/585 48c idle / 78c load
599/565 49c idle / 81c load

I may put some AS5 on stock heatsink. Guess I stay 551/551 w/ stock for now. Imagine a zalman would get me 591/585 easy but $25! LOL. Should I pony up the $25 for a zalman?
 
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