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Volta to bring 1 TB/s memory bandwidth to GPUs?
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1TB/sec sounds great, but that's ~4x the bandwidth of current high end GPUs. If bandwidth doubles each generation and Volta is two generations away, then it's normal progress.
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So Volta is their codename for the generation after Maxwell? Interesting...
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The keynote was 12hrs ago.
Nothing too exciting just a bunch of graphs and the funniest part was when they were introducing the director for upcoming Fantastic Four and how GRID would help out. The crowd just didnt seam interested and JJ-H was try'n to get them interested. Even the director was like eh..
And not one mention of Project Shield just a reference to it when hes showing off Ira which had the responses scripted since you can tell it resets for each responce on the video.
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Tegra roadmap:
I had school today, so missed this, some interesting stuff but at the same time seemed like too much pandering. Will be interesting to hear some of the other presentations that'll be given over the next few days, so yeah, GTC is still ongoing.
Maybe more interesting stuff will come in the next few days.
The keynote was 12hrs ago.
I had school today, so missed this, some interesting stuff but at the same time seemed like too much pandering. Will be interesting to hear some of the other presentations that'll be given over the next few days, so yeah, GTC is still ongoing.
Maybe more interesting stuff will come in the next few days.
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I know the technology is completely different, but I remember Nvidia embedding the VRAM to the RSX GPU substrate for PS3 back in 2006, I think it didn't offer much of a performance advantage back then due to the 128bit bus.
Embedding some sort of cache in the same substrate as the GPU die and giving it a 1024bit direct bus to the GPU could provide the necessary increase in bandwidth.
Since all the traces between the GPU and this cache memory would be relatively short and not an actual part of the PCB design, this approach would be feasible from an economic point of view.
I bet cards would still require more VRAM on the PCB with a more conventional bus in order to reduce design complexity and cost, and allow for more memory availability due to VRAM density not being limited by packaging constrains.
Embedding some sort of cache in the same substrate as the GPU die and giving it a 1024bit direct bus to the GPU could provide the necessary increase in bandwidth.
Since all the traces between the GPU and this cache memory would be relatively short and not an actual part of the PCB design, this approach would be feasible from an economic point of view.
I bet cards would still require more VRAM on the PCB with a more conventional bus in order to reduce design complexity and cost, and allow for more memory availability due to VRAM density not being limited by packaging constrains.
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Here is what I have to say to Nvidia now after watching a lot of the videos from today.
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Thats another thing that felt flat.
Tegra roadmap needs to be push 2yrs forward to be competative.
Logan should have been what Tegra 4 "Wayne" Tegra4i "Grey" is. Thats why Qualcomm S600 is stealing all the flagship this year. Not one new phone that has been anounced will be using Tegra4i on there flagship product. The only one commited to carring Tegra4i is ZTE.
Parker is going to be a year or more late as thing stand. Dell has been testing AppliedMicro 64bit ARM since late last year and AMD will be producing a hybrid by 2014. By the time Parker rolls out 2nd gen 64bit ARM SoCs will be coming out.
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Bandwidth doesn't double with each generation. They've been slacking with bandwidth improvements for awhile now. It's been a pretty slow craw from 100 to 200 GB/s.
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The question here is, is memory bandwidth really that important? My answer is that GPU clock, throughput, shading perfomance and everything around it is far more important than high raw memory bandwidth.
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That is what I was wondering. Its a terabyte a second of bandwidth... At the very least it will make memory not a bottleneck for a while.
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Seems to running a second generation Kepler (D15M). First generation (GK104-110) were D14M and D14P.
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Those have already shown up in recent drivers
NVIDIA_DEV.0FC4 = "NVIDIA D14P1-15"
NVIDIA_DEV.0FC5 = "NVIDIA D15M2-03"
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