Upgrade now to 5930k or wait for Skylake.

[Frag_Maniac]

I say wait for Skylake/1151.

1. Cheaper platform lets you put the money where it counts.
2. Waiting gives you better chance of lower latency/lower price DDR4.
3. Skylake and 1151 will likely support Pascal better.

A win win.

 

[RealNeil]

Damn if someone didn't just offer me a killer deal on a GIGABYTE GA-X99-SOC FORCE motherboard and a Gigabyte GTX 780 WindForce OC 3GB GPU.
It is like getting the GPU for $20.00, so I guess I'm gonna do an upgrade sooner than I thought.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I say wait for Skylake/1151.

1. Cheaper platform lets you put the money where it counts.
2. Waiting gives you better chance of lower latency/lower price DDR4.
3. Skylake and 1151 will likely support Pascal better.

A win win.

Pascal? The Nvidia GPU coming in 2016.

What makes you think Skylake will support it "better"?

 

[Vario]

Pascal? The Nvidia GPU coming in 2016.

What makes you think Skylake will support it "better"?

Pcie4 is my guess? http://wccftech.com/intel-14nm-skylake-processors-feature-pcie-4-ddr4-memory-sata-express/

I doubt it will make a huge difference myself.

 

[FireFox]

Pascal? The Nvidia GPU coming in 2016.

What makes you think Skylake will support it "better"?

My guess is That would be better to wait until new GPU generation.

Everything is getting confused, too many things to be released and we don't know which one it does macht better with which one.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

My guess is That would be better to wait until new GPU generacion.

Everything is getting confused, too many things to be released and we don't know which one it does macht better with which.

Best thing to do is use your system for what you have it for, rather then looking at new stuff to upgrade too. Makes the upgrade bug less effective.

 

[Ralfies]

Too inebriated to read rest of thread, but I say haswell-e isn't a big enough upgrade over your 3770k to warrant a warrant an upgrade.

 

[FireFox]

Too inebriated to read rest of thread, but I say haswell-e isn't a big enough upgrade over your 3770k to warrant a warrant an upgrade.

That's what @Vario said too.
(frame rate for games won't change at all with anything greater than a 3770k so I wouldn't bother.)

More l have to wait and better, in that way I can save more money.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Pascal? The Nvidia GPU coming in 2016.

What makes you think Skylake will support it "better"?

DirectX 12. Only NVIDIA GTX 9## claims to support DirectX 12 so far and I have a sneaking suspicion that the card isn't fully compliant with the standard which is presently only available to developers.

I doubt Skylake would make much difference though by itself. DirectX 12 is supposed to reduce CPU demands.

 

[FireFox]

DirectX 12. Only NVIDIA GTX 9## claims to support DirectX 12 so far and I have a sneaking suspicion that the card isn't fully compliant with the standard which is presently only available to developers.

I doubt Skylake would make much difference though by itself. DirectX 12 is supposed to reduce CPU demands.

I won't upgrade untill the 10XX series

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...ia-gpus-will-deliver-mantle-like-capabilities

 

[GhostRyder]

Hi guys.

I want to upgrade my Machine in a few months, maybe 3 or 4 but I was think if I should upgrade now or wait for the Skylake.

Cheers.

I would wait unless you really want to run a 3+ GPU setup because at this point you will not be held back by your CPU in any game and probably even if you bough the 5930K and overclocked it to its limits not notice any real improvements in game.

Wait for awhile and see what comes out, your best bet is upgrading GPU's once the next set of cards from both manufacturers come out.

 

[TRWOV]

You have a 3770K, I bet you could wait for Cannonlake if you want to, maybe even a generation more.

 

[FireFox]

You have a 3770K, I bet you could wait for Cannonlake if you want to, maybe even a generation more.

And so I will do, as @GhostRyder said I will wait and upgrade GPU's, and as you said with my 3770k I can wait for a while.

Next set of cards you mean the 10XX series?

 

[GhostRyder]

And so I will do, as @GhostRyder said I will wait and upgrade GPU's, and as you said with my 3770k I can wait for a while.

Next set of cards you mean the 10XX series?

Yea, I meant it is a broad term also pointing to the R9 3XX series and the GTX 1XXX (Yet to be named) because most likely when either of those card series come out, prices will adjust or you might see something better to buy.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

If you were going to upgrade to 2011-3 then I would go with the 5820k. It oc's better and is better in games. I am still on the fence about this. I have had a few members run benchmarks on their 5930s at stock with the same 780ti card as me and basically they scored the same in most benchmarks, granted at all stock settings vs my overclocked system. But my systems plays all my games at 2560x1600 and on ultra/very high settings...with the cost of the platform and especially DDR4 I am having a hard time justifying. I think waiting for skylake is a better solution.

 

[Vario]

If you were going to upgrade to 2011-3 then I would go with the 5820k. It oc's better and is better in games. I am still on the fence about this. I have had a few members run benchmarks on their 5930s at stock with the same 780ti card as me and basically they scored the same in most benchmarks, granted at all stock settings vs my overclocked system. But my systems plays all my games at 2560x1600 and on ultra/very high settings...with the cost of the platform and especially DDR4 I am having a hard time justifying. I think waiting for skylake is a better solution.

@ZenZimZaliben I'd just wait until your x58 mobo starts to wear out and then buy whatever the latest is at that time.

 

[FireFox]

Guys now that i have a clear idea of what I want and what i will do i want to thanks all of you for your comments, suggestions, opinions, bla bla bla etc etc etc.

Thank you for participating in this thread

With that said this Thread can be closed.

@Knoxx29

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Pascal? The Nvidia GPU coming in 2016.

What makes you think Skylake will support it "better"?

Simply because both Skylake and 1151 will support the faster DDR4 RAM standard, and one of Pascal's main differences from Maxwell is unified memory. Faster communication between GPU and RAM plus faster RAM itself kinda fits.

But as I said, I don't think jumping on DDR4 now is a good idea. It's still too high in latency to really be much faster if at all.

Some have argued vehemently that PC is not in fact getting unified memory in 2016. One person that responded to me when I said it even stated Intel and AMD have not announced such plans.

What some don't seem to get is trying to do uni mem on PC the same way consoles do it would present problems that would somewhat go against the open, modular nature of PC.

We would probably end up with something like AMD A series APUs, but having more cores and more graphics power built in, and you'd still have the problem of them not working with higher power level GPUs, or perhaps not working together with them at all.

There IS a bottleneck between GPU and system RAM though, as well as Pci-Ex lane restrictions and not having a low level API yet. Pascal's uni mem addressing, NVLink, faster RAM, and Dx12 will all work together to minimize such bottlenecks. In that sense all those features will support one another in addressing the same goal.

 

[Space Lynx]

wait for windows 10, skylake-k, and 980 ti or r9 390x, once all 3 of those line up is when i am upgrading

 

[peche]

I use my machine for Gaming, I am still using socket 1155 and I would like to move forward.

+1, 1155 socket... not pretty sure about how many years more it would be
brave

 

[FireFox]

980 ti or r9 390x,

I will upgrade GPU just when the 1XXX series will be released.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Simply because both Skylake and 1151 will support the faster DDR4 RAM standard, and one of Pascal's main differences from Maxwell is unified memory. Faster communication between GPU and RAM plus faster RAM itself kinda fits.

But as I said, I don't think jumping on DDR4 now is a good idea. It's still too high in latency to really be much faster if at all.

Some have argued vehemently that PC is not in fact getting unified memory in 2016. One person that responded to me when I said it even stated Intel and AMD have not announced such plans.

What some don't seem to get is trying to do uni mem on PC the same way consoles do it would present problems that would somewhat go against the open, modular nature of PC.

We would probably end up with something like AMD A series APUs, but having more cores and more graphics power built in, and you'd still have the problem of them not working with higher power level GPUs, or perhaps not working together with them at all.

There IS a bottleneck between GPU and system RAM though, as well as Pci-Ex lane restrictions and not having a low level API yet. Pascal's uni mem addressing, NVLink, faster RAM, and Dx12 will all work together to minimize such bottlenecks. In that sense all those features will support one another in addressing the same goal.

Im pretty sure thats all BS, at least that is what I got out of it when I was talking to Dave when x99 released. @cadaveca would probably fill you in on that.

I thought I read somewhere that NVLink also will not work on consumer desktops. Its more targetted on systems that will use their Tesla and Quadro cards that has the Pascal GPU.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Im pretty sure thats all BS, at least that is what I got out of it when I was talking to Dave when x99 released. @cadaveca would probably fill you in on that.

I thought I read somewhere that NVLink also will not work on consumer desktops. Its more targetted on systems that will use their Tesla and Quadro cards that has the Pascal GPU.

At launch DDR4 was so high in latency the math alone did not look good on speed comparisons. I don't know where they're at now with latency, but I don't care given there's no budget platform that supports it yet. New RAM standard early adopters are generally those with deep pockets. It's not a high value thing.

Source on the NVLink claim?

If you go by this....http://www.anandtech.com/show/7900/nvidia-updates-gpu-roadmap-unveils-pascal-architecture-for-2016

...along with Nvidia's brief Pascal stage demo...

...it's looking like Pascal is intended to follow the Maxwell consumer line, with Volta following it. What I didn't know, and am glad you put me to the test because of it, is that even Maxwell supposedly is going to get a form of software based virtual unified memory via CUDA 6's rollout. Pascal just takes it one step further with NVLink architecture.

 

[Ebo]

I just got my new system up and running today, a I7-5820K, MSI gaming MB and 16 gigs of DDR4, well its xmas, so i thourght I would give myself a small present for once, and IT works like hell so far. It has only been running for 2-3 hours until now, but theres a world in difference.