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[newtekie1]

Omg, just moving to get Google as ISP.

I'd do it if they were close. The biggest hurdle right now for Google as an ISP is access to utility spaces to run their cabling. But that might change if the FCC rules to regulate ISPs under the Title II Telecommunication Act. It would give Google access to telephone poles and underground runs. I really hope this goes through because it would bring some serious competition to a market that basically has none right now.

 

[FireFox]

LOL

How can i call it?
insanity

 

[Blue-Knight]

I voted ADSL.

How important is for you the speed of your internet connection.

I just want to get what I pay for... If I can only pay for 56Kbps then I will have to survive with 56Kbps.

Currently I pay for 5Mbps. And it is very important that it stays at 5Mbps on ISP side otherwise call to complain.

I am happy I just needed to complain for only 1 time. Get a decent infrastructure or I cancel the crap service. I will not support crap services.

If they can only deliver 20% of the advertised speed most of the time then advertise the 20%. LOL!

 

[xvi]

I voted ADSL.

I just want to get what I pay for... If I can only pay for 56Kbps then I will have to survive with 56Kbps.

Currently I pay for 5Mbps. And it is very important that it stays at 5Mbps on ISP side otherwise call to complain.

I am happy I just needed to complain for only 1 time. Get a decent infrastructure or I cancel the crap service. I will not support crap services.

If they can only deliver 20% of the advertised speed most of the time then advertise the 20%. LOL!

Some "Up to X speed" connections are only required to reach that speed twice a month to fulfil the terms of the contract. It could be dial-up 99% of the time, but as long as it hits your contracted speed twice that month, they've fulfilled their end of the arrangement.

Having your bandwidth guaranteed is usually only available for business connections.
If you bring in a 10 Mbps line into a neighborhood, you can either sell 10 residential 10Mbps connections (rumor has it the ratio is usually closer to 1:30, actually) for $50 a month or 1 business connection for (probably) $200-300 a month. Any higher-up is going to see a choice for their income to be $500 vs $200 and you know what they're going to go with.

 

[Blue-Knight]

Some "Up to X speed" connections are only required to reach that speed twice a month to fulfil the terms of the contract. It could be dial-up 99% of the time, but as long as it hits your contracted speed twice that month, they've fulfilled their end of the arrangement.

WHAT!?

I would have cancelled my contract already if it was like that. And I would never accept a contract like this in first place (If I read it, obviously ).

I will not pay for a thing that will not make me satisfied. I do not need internet to survive, I can live very well without it.

 

[64K]

I will not pay for a thing that will not make me satisfied. I do not need internet to survive, I can live very well without it.

Do you not have any games on Steam or Origin? TBH I can't imagine not having internet. When I was growing up you had to go to the library if you wanted to learn about something. Now with Google I can access just about any info in a couple of seconds. If I ever had to sacrifice something it would he HD cable over my internet connection.

 

[Blue-Knight]

Do you not have any games on Steam or Origin?

I have a steam account. I created it recently and I have just 1 game there.
Origin does not have a Linux version, I cannot support it.

When I was growing up you had to go to the library if you wanted to learn about something.

Well, I have almost all the information I would need to use in my personal library if my internet connection is powered off. So, for my daily works that would be enough.

Do not rely on internet is one of my main concerns... Sadly, some people seem to not care about.

Spoiler: Case study

A good example is Linux programs, many people just download what they need from the repositories and do not keep a local copy of the programs or their sources.
If they need that and internet connection is non existent they will cry... LOL!

 

[FireFox]

I'd do it if they were close. The biggest hurdle right now for Google as an ISP is access to utility spaces to run their cabling. But that might change if the FCC rules to regulate ISPs under the Title II Telecommunication Act. It would give Google access to telephone poles and underground runs. I really hope this goes through because it would bring some serious competition to a market that basically has none right now.

The new promising companies.

Companies and their CHEATS, for the first period they offer you the best services you can't find out there for less price than anyone else can offer you.

One day you decide you want to change your ISP.

You: Good morning.

Them: Good morning Sir I am Miss Smith, how can we help you?

You: I am looking for some Internet offers, I've heard around that you offer good services and the prices are affordable.

Them: Sir you came to the right place, we've the best internet offers, ours services are rated 10 STARS and none of ours customers is unhappy, (you never asked about it) so let's start, prices start from 20$ up to 50$ per month, it depends what you are looking for Sir,
if you are interested in addition to the internet we offer for 10$ more per month Phone and free calls, but that's not all Sir for 5$ more you can have many channels as you want, if you want the HD channels then it's not 5$ but 10$ and if you want Full HD channels it's not 10$ but 15$ per month plus Internet.

You: uhmmmm. (You looks Undecided and lost. )

Them: Sir for the first year you pay just the half price and after you pay the normal price.

You: Ok ok, i get the full packet.

They've Catched you.

Right away when you've signed you are F@@@@D


But then:
A few months later you call the company.

You: Good morning I am Mister bla bla bla, i have a problem, today I got my Internet bill and I've noticed that you've charged to my bill some extra for calls, normally I should pay half price but there's something wrong here.

Them: Can you tell me your Customer ID number please, I will solve this problem as soon as I can.

And so it will for a long time.

Too many promises and at the end they are all the same, promises promises and bla bla bla.

It's all just Marketing.

 

[eidairaman1]

My VDSL it's very fast and I can't complain at all, I like fast download and upload but in any case I am getting the optical fiber.

Fiber to prem? If it is youll have a ont on your home, otherwise its fiber to node then to copper.

 

[Aquinus]

Fiber to prem? If it is youll have a ont on your home, otherwise its fiber to node then to copper.

...and in any case, that last mile (or kilometer for our metric friends) of copper really only adds up to 7-9ms round-trip to your response time, tops. The rest of the way is fiber, so you really don't gain a whole lot. I would be skeptical if anyone told me that they could notice a difference between 10 and 20ms response time for internet access to a nearby server. Or the difference between 70 and 80 for a server a little further away. Even DOCSIS 3.0 supports quite a bit of bandwidth and the only real reason to go to fiber (over cable that is) is to get more than 300Mbps/100Mbps. Even Comcast's 505/100Mbps plan requires them to run FTTP.

 

[eidairaman1]

The way some telco companies bandage 10-50+ year old existing copper facilities to send a vdsl signal is meh, bridge taps/metallic faults make the signal weak.

Vdsl normally goes up to 3000 ft with 1 tv. Beyond that a bonded pair is needed.

 

[FireFox]

My minecraft/Dayz server

I have a silly question.
While doing the speedtest does it matter
if there are several machines using internet, will be the test affected By It?

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

In my experiemce it makes no difference unless you are streaming at the same time.

 

[FireFox]

In my experiemce it makes no difference unless you are streaming at the same time.

I guess a test won't never be accurate because there are always some programs running and background that uses Internet.

unless you are streaming at the same time.

Watching YouTube Full HD

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

No not really. Your browser will be on otherwise you wont be online and able to perform the test. Bandwidth is one thing data transfer is entirely different.

Imagine the difference between a motorway or autobahn and a rural road. One.road is wider than the other but you can travel the same speed on both.
I think that analogy works.

 

[Aquinus]

No not really. Your browser will be on otherwise you wont be online and able to perform the test. Bandwidth is one thing data transfer is entirely different.

Imagine the difference between a motorway or autobahn and a rural road. One.road is wider than the other but you can travel the same speed on both.
I think that analogy works.

I was waiting for this one. It's a good analogy. Think of bandwidth as the lanes on the road and latency as the speed limit.

 

[XSI]

Sorry for my ignorance but fiber shouldn't work at 200 Mbit/s Download and 100 Mbit/s Upload.

I don't get it, why. There is possible to get 1Gb/s (100MB+ per second ) fiber here in Lithuania. as well as 300Mbps/300Mbps. 100/100Mbps is almost mainstream.

 

[FireFox]

No not really. Your browser will be on otherwise you wont be online and able to perform the test. Bandwidth is one thing data transfer is entirely different.

Imagine the difference between a motorway or autobahn and a rural road. One.road is wider than the other but you can travel the same speed on both.
I think that analogy works.

I had a wrong concept about it, thanks for helping me to understand how it works.

 

[FireFox]

I don't get it, why. There is possible to get 1Gb/s (100MB+ per second ) fiber here in Lithuania. as well as 300Mbps/300Mbps. 100/100Mbps is almost mainstream.

Fiber provides access to the Internet in entirely new dimensions of speed, because the data transfer rate is higher than in conventional DSL connections many times: up to 200 megabits per second (Mbit / s) in the download are possible, even with the upload are 100 Mbit / s.

When fiber optic lines transmitted the data not like about with copper wire electrical impulses, but with colour light signals. This allows not only faster transfer speeds, but the transmission is also less sensitive to electrical or magnetic interference fields. Also, you can transfer the data via fiber itself over long distances without speed or quality losses.

 

[Aquinus]

I had a wrong concept about it, thanks for helping me to understand how it works.

Nothing currently goes faster than optical. Optical is how you reach speeds over 10Gbps. For example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106044&cm_re=10gbps-_-33-106-044-_-Product

...but they can run it as slow as they want, like 10/10mbps.

 

[MrCellkill]

Here in Denmark you can get up to 500/500. But it is 158us / 134euro

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Saw a fantastic demonstration recently of how light travels down a bent and twisted fibre optic cable.

Dont know if you can get BBC programs where you are but its well worth a look. Its designed for teenagers and this year showed some brilliant technology, making shapes out of sound waves was one excellent example.

im with my daughter in hospital at the moment so cant post a link.

Try and find it Knoxx 29 im sure you and many others would find some interesting stuff. I think every small child should watch them for inspiration.
Search for "Royal Institute Xmas Lectures.

 

[Aquinus]

Here in Denmark you can get up to 500/500. But it is 158us / 134euro

That's not too shabby. For me to get 500/100 I would need to pay something like 300/400 USD a month along with a 4 year contract or something like that.

For now, I get this on DOCSIS.

 

[brandonwh64]

Another

 

[FireFox]

I can live very well without it.

Wow compliment, I don't think i could.

If I ever had to sacrifice something it would he HD cable over my internet connection.

The same here, it would be insane without Internet.