Your Internet Connection!

[FireFox]

I am disappointed

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

If you dig up and damage a fibre optic cable in the UK the cost is typicaly £ 90,000.00 to repair. The boxes are usually in footpaths and nowadays less frequently under roads.
i dont know the cost to repair an individual domestic service but if you damage fibre optic in your garden it will not be cheap to repair.

The fibre optic cables are laid in 4 inch ducting which is always grey. These ducts are surrounded by sand or a simillar granular material.
Gas, water and electric services are marked with colour coded tape which often contains a metal strip so it can be detected by a Cable Avoidance Tool . Fibre optic cable is not usually marked with tape as usually they have been buried post 1950 and consequentlytly are marked on engineers drawings.

If you dig up the footpath outside your house you must do a local authority search which will ixentify the approximate location of any known services.

Digging up the pavement outside your house is best avoided though i did mine recently for off road parking.

Just a quick snippet from my days as a digger driver.

 

[eidairaman1]

I have a silly question.
While doing the speedtest does it matter
if there are several machines using internet, will be the test affected By It?

Yes. Qos prioritizes bandwidth.

If 4 devices are all on at once downloading the same program you are technically using 25% bandwidth per device.

 

[Athlonite]

VDSL2 here in NZ @ 27.9/10Mbps waiting for fibre though as VDSL has a bad penchant for loosing speed if others on the loop also get VDSL ie my connection was originally 37/10Mbps so I've lost 10Mbps on the download side in about 4 months

 

[Athlonite]

Yes. Qos prioritizes bandwidth.

If 4 devices are all on at once downloading the same program you are technically using 25% bandwidth per device.

Actually that's not quite right... It is dependant on the speed at which each machine is capable of processing the data a fast machine may use upto 60% of the bandwidth but saying that anything using bandwidth on the internet will affect any speed test result as it is not able to utilise the full bandwidth of the connection

 

[FireFox]

If you dig up and damage a fibre optic cable in the UK the cost is typicaly £ 90,000.00 to repair.

That's insane,
Get a loan and paid back

I mean if you dig and damage a fiber cable but you didn't know that the cable was there I don't see why you should pay for it.

if you damage fibre optic in your garden it will not be cheap to repair.

Thanks God I have an apartment

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

The responsibility lies with you.

Usually you are only allowed to dig with an excavator or mechanically to within 500mm of a known service run .
The rest is dug by hand.
There are certain clues to look for.
Different coloured dirt.
Marker tape.
sand, dust and sometimes finely ground glass.

The Cable Avoidance Tool is brilliant for finding electric and phone services.

Gas pipes in the UK are bright yellow and are made of pvc. I doubt if you could dig through a 23mm domestic service with a shovel.

Domestic water supply is often down copper pipes. We dig through them all the time because you cant see tarnished copper in the ground. They are easy to fix.

Dig up a gas pipe. Fold the end over to stop it flowing and call the gas company.
Dig up electric service. Turn it off, ring an engineer and be prepated to be laughed at.
Dig up fibre optic. RESIGN FROM WORK AND FUCK OFF as quick as possible.

 

[Aquinus]

The responsibility lies with you.

Usually you are only allowed to dig with an excavator or mechanically to within 500mm of a known service run .
The rest is dug by hand.
There are certain clues to look for.
Different coloured dirt.
Marker tape.
sand, dust and sometimes finely ground glass.

The Cable Avoidance Tool is brilliant for finding electric and phone services.

Gas pipes in the UK are bright yellow and are made of pvc. I doubt if you could dig through a 23mm domestic service with a shovel.

Domestic water supply is often down copper pipes. We dig through them all the time because you cant see tarnished copper in the ground. They are easy to fix.

Dig up a gas pipe. Fold the end over to stop it flowing and call the gas company.
Dig up electric service. Turn it off, ring an engineer and be prepated to be laughed at.
Dig up fibre optic. RESIGN FROM WORK AND FUCK OFF as quick as possible.

How deep are those in the ground? My domestic water, sewer, and natural gas come off the street but they're something like a meter underground. The remaining telecom is all above ground, at least it is for me. Usually more urbanized areas has telecom in the ground here in the US of A but is certainly not normal outside of decent sized cities.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

The depth varies a lot.

On a new build site everthing will have at least 600mm or 2 foot of cover on top.

In the UK as far as i know the last little bit of telecoms cabling will always be copper it is the main run to the old telephone exchange which will be fibre and then from the exchange to the junction box in the street. From the junction box (grey in the uk) to individual properties will be copper.

It is very very unlikely that you will dig up fibre optic cabling

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

The depth varies a lot.

On a new build site everthing will have at least 600mm or 2 foot of cover on top.

In the UK as far as i know the last little bit of telecoms cabling will always be copper it is the main run to the old telephone exchange which will be fibre and then from the exchange to the junction box in the street. From the junction box (grey in the uk) to individual properties will be copper.

It is very very unlikely that you will dig up fibre optic cabling.

Often the domestic service will be overhead to actually reach your house.

We still call them telegraph poles. If yiu look at the top of a pole near a grey BT box you may see 10 or more individual properties services from one telegraph pole.

Putting cables in the ground is very expensive.
I heard a figure of a million quid a mile to bury cabling from a wind turbine.

So long as its deep enough so your Gran doesnt dig it up with the potato harvest its fine.

The telecoms industry came along after the other services so are often closer to the surface.

 

[eidairaman1]

How deep are those in the ground? My domestic water, sewer, and natural gas come off the street but they're something like a meter underground. The remaining telecom is all above ground, at least it is for me. Usually more urbanized areas has telecom in the ground here in the US of A but is certainly not normal outside of decent sized cities.

Within city its normally pole or in a cable vault.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

If you see workmen digging up your road have a look in the hole its amazing just how much stuff is buried, criss crossing or even wrapped around each other.

About 6 months ago in Germany a digger driver and his mate died when they dug up an allied bomb from the war.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

I didn't think speed was that important, until I went from a 3/.768 DSL connection to this-

Not bad for a 60/5 cable connection.

 

[FireFox]

I didn't think speed was that important,

Welcome to 2015

 

[Devon68]

I have wireless internet.
300 kb/s download but going back to 100 kb/s no need for more. (The 100kb/s is like 7$ a month)
I don't download as much as i used to.

I could get 1 MB/s ADSL (for 20$) but since I dont know for how long I will work I dont want to commit myself for a 2 year contract.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

How does it work in the States then?

You have a choice of speeds? The more you pay the faster it is ?

In the UK unless you have fibre optic you are governed by the quality/age of your phpne line and tge distance from the exchange.

I know speeds can be lowered wasnt aware that speeds can be boosted in any way.

Like the saying goes " you cant polish a turd "

I get about 6 mb, no supplier, of which there are many has ever offerred me more.

 

[FireFox]

About 6 months ago in Germany a digger driver and his mate died when they dug up an allied bomb from the war.

Could be this one:?
A World War Two bomb has exploded at a construction site near a west German town, killing a man and injuring eight others, police say.

The explosion occurred after a digger accidentally struck the device during excavation work in Euskirchen in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia.

The machine's operator died on the spot. Two of those hurt were critically wounded, the dpa news agency reports.

Police said the blast impact could be felt a kilometre (0.6miles) away.

The incident took place around 13.30 local time (12.30 GMT) in an industrial park on the edge of town.

The bomb blew up when it was disturbed by the digger, as the machine lifted up earth and debris.

The blast damaged nearby office buildings and cars. Police say the explosion also smashed the windows of some local shops and homes.

The BBC's Damien McGuinness says unexploded bombs are still regularly being discovered in Germany, particularly in the industrial north-west of the country.

In the 1940s, allied bombers tried to cripple the Nazi war effort by bombing factories there.

But our correspondent says it is rare that anyone is killed or injured by a device going off unexpectedly.

You have a choice of speeds? The more you pay the faster it is ?

That's the way it's work in Germany, more money means more speed

If you see workmen digging up your road have a look in the hole its amazing just how much stuff is buried, criss crossing or even wrapped around each other.

I see that almost every day, where I live they are repairing some cables That are under the ground.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

So are downloads capped then ?
Say 10gb a month or whatever.

 

[FireFox]

So are downloads capped then ?
Say 10gb a month or whatever.

Absolutely nope.

 

[Devon68]

So are downloads capped then ?
Say 10gb a month or whatever.

I never heard about that before in Europe. I dont even see the point of capping it since sooner or later you will run out of space to download stuff to anyway.

 

[Aquinus]

How does it work in the States then?

You have a choice of speeds? The more you pay the faster it is ?

It depends on the company that owns the network you're on. FCC guidelines are a little weird about what companies can service what areas because certain companies own the rights to the poles and crap like that, so it really depends on your area. Generally speaking, if there is a cable TV provider in your area, the is only one. For me it is Comcast, but others in the area are Time Warner Cable and Metrocast. Aside from those there is Fairpoint which is our DSL and Fiber service which was bought from Verizon. Fairpoints employees are currently on strike so their service has tanked (lower than it was in the first place) so really you're stuck with the cable provider.

So for me, Comcast has several plans and they all cost different amounts a month. I get both Cable TV and Internet from them. They offer 5 standard cable internet plans for progressively increased prices:
3Mbps, 6Mbps, 25Mbps, 105Mbps, 150Mbps. Which range from 35 USD a month to 90 USD a month. Comcast also has a 505/100Mbps plan where they run fiber to the premises. It costs 400 USD a month (!!) and requires a 3 year contract.

Those are my options, granted I also live in my state's capital which is decently populated area of the state but not far away from the sticks either so I get the best of both worlds. In reality, like most things in the USA, services and price are determined by businesses and competition. Capitalism my friend, capitalism.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Unlimited download deals are becoming more common in the UK.but only in the last couple of years.

But like a lot of mobile phone deals some of the deals set a cap after which you pay extra.

Fair usage contracts used to be common whereby if your provider considered you were downloading or even streaming too much they would slow your speed right down so you could barely even surf.

It seems tp me that in the Western world we are paying similar sorts of prices but getting massively different speeds.

Anyone from South Korea out there......they get the fastest speeds in the world but how much do they pay?

 

[johnspack]

God I hate living in a little town in the middle of nowhere.... I pay over 70can a month for this:

 

[Laurijan]

I am lucky and have a 10,06€ optical fiber internet that is 100Mbit/10Mbit - effective speed is 95Mbit/12Mbit

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

http://www.ebuyer.com/blog/2014/09/the-cost-of-broadband-how-do-we-stack-up/



The link takes you to a short but interesting piece on ebuyers blog site comparing relative costs and speeds.