16 nm Maxwell real?

[WhoDecidedThat]

Just read on Anandtech that NVIDIA has announced 28 nm 7.8 to 8 billion class Maxwell chip which is supposedly 1.5x GM204. So... will we ever get 16 NM FinFET Maxwell or will we jump to 16 NM FinFET Pascal directly?

 

[64K]

Just read on Anandtech that NVIDIA has announced 28 nm 7.8 to 8 billion class Maxwell chip which is supposedly 1.5x GM204. So... will we ever get 16 NM FinFET Maxwell or will we jump to 16 NM FinFET Pascal directly?

That was the Titan X reveal at GDC. I'm pretty sure it's on the 28nm process. I don't think we will get a 16nm Maxwell. That will be for Pascal.
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[Vayra86]

It might not even be for Pascal.

As far as we can distill, that is only what they *planned* to do, or what logic would suggest. But we also know Maxwell should not have stayed at 28nm. Basically everything depends on the maturity of the process. I don't think AMD is going to 20nm anytime soon either, at least not for their next release. If they do, that might turn the battle in their favor though.

Basically, you can blame mobile for that. Smartphones / ARM are hogging up all capacity on the smaller nodes at this moment. The only x86 not on 28nm is whatever comes from Intel, because they have their own fabs.

 

[st2000]

i think they will put on the brakes pascal cause maxwell is:
a)cool
b)got good energy efficiency
from this clause we got some food for thought(they downscaled maxwell for 2 possible reasons):
1)they want to sell same cards but grand OCed in autumn-winter
2)smthg is wrong with this architecture

 

[Daemmon]

i think they will put on the brakes pascal cause maxwell is:
a)cool
b)got good energy efficiency
from this clause we got some food for thought(they downscaled maxwell for 2 possible reasons):
1)they want to sell same cards but grand OCed in autumn-winter
2)smthg is wrong with this architecture

Well, they are trying to get the most out of this new technology before moving on to 16nm.

Step 1 : 750ti . Hey guys, look how cool is our new cool/energy efficient technology!
Step 2: 9xx series . Ok guys, here is our new series of Maxwell cards with the new tech we showed you of 750ti. Decent release, nothing groundbreaking.
Step 3. ??? (900s Ti, etc) . Here's the best we can do out of Maxwell.
Step 4. Pascal.

Considering Step 2 was 1.5 months ago aprox. then there is no reason to push step 3 right now. There is a $ + Marketing + R&D reason to squeeze the most money out of every new tech.

Also, nVidia is probably waiting for AMDs 3xx series to see how they perform and how aggresive they have to be in order to not lose any market share. This is nothing new guys, always been like this.