TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[Nordic]

I was trying to say you were right, not that you said it was difficult.

I knew the math was pretty far from perfect, but thank you for putting it in exact terms. It is nice to read because I don't know what I am doing, but just running on a hunch.

Reading your post, I noticed a typo in the formula I wrote down. It should be as follows which is what I used in the google sheets link.
Predicted ppd = =((Whetstone Score * Threads)/3.38153016515+(Dhrystone Score * Threads)/17.5697674418605)/2

As it is just a prediction of approximate ppd, it appears to do a good job. I am eager to hear from other team members.

 

[m&m's]

I was trying to say you were right, not that you said it was difficult.

My fault, english in my second language and sometimes I just fail at understanding the true meaning of a sentence... lol

As it is just a prediction of approximate ppd, it appears to do a good job. I am eager to hear from other team members.

Maybe you already know, but you can see everyone's benchmark scores on http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=team&proj=bwcg&team=22175
All you have to do is click on somebody's name and click a cruncher.

 

[Nordic]

I did not know of that. I have as much data as I could possibly want now.

I have three systems crunching remotely, that I did not know there benchmark scores but I know there average ppd because they have been running mostly unattended. The predicted very closely the ppd on one system, but not on the other two. The other two are predicted 40% higher than they actually are.

That formula really close on 6/8 crunches for me.

The two cpu's it does not predict are an i3-530 and a a10-5800k

 

[m&m's]

The two cpu's it does not predict are an i3-530 and a a10-5800k

I took a look at the average PPD of your A10-5800K and it kind of surprise me that it's only 1911 while your Athlon X4 620 is at 1887. Is the A10 a dedicated cruncher? Because an A10 @3.8GHz should have an higher PPD than an Athlon X4 @2.6GHz.

 

[Nordic]

It is used by my brother. He is at that house once a week for about 6 hours of active use. I have suspected the motherboard of problems before. It is supposed to boost up to 4.2ghz, but the motherboard refuses and sits at 3.8ghz. It does not even overclock. I got the motherboard for free so I will not complain.

The Athlon X4 is overclocked to 2.8ghz.

 

[m&m's]

It is used by my brother. He is at that house once a week for about 6 hours of active use. I have suspected the motherboard of problems before. It is supposed to boost up to 4.2ghz, but the motherboard refuses and sits at 3.8ghz. It does not even overclock. I got the motherboard for free so I will not complain.

The Athlon X4 is overclocked to 2.8ghz.

Since your brother use it (even if only 6 hours a week), it might have a lot of background processes running (or even malwares).

I still think that a 3.8GHz (even without boost) should outperform a slightly overclocked Athlon X4, but hell who knows what your brother does with the computer.

 

[Nordic]

I have the computer restart every night, so there are not background processes. He is just a kid, and I am surprised I have not had to deal with any spyware, adware, malware, or other malicious software yet. I have checked it everytime I visit.

I agree, I think it should perform more. The whetstone and dhrystone scores certainly are higher. I have reinstalled windows 7 twice on it, and it was just recently upgraded to windows 10.

 

[m&m's]

I have the computer restart every night, so there are not background processes. He is just a kid, and I am surprised I have not had to deal with any spyware, adware, malware, or other malicious software yet. I have checked it everytime I visit.

I agree, I think it should perform more. The whetstone and dhrystone scores certainly are higher. I have reinstalled windows 7 twice on it, and it was just recently upgraded to windows 10.

Then 2 things come to my mind

1- It's overheating - Not likely

2- It's a setting in BOINC (or in the WCG profile), I'm mostly thinking about "While processor usage is less than [X] percent", maybe you did set a low percent so that your brother doesn't have to deal with a slow computer while he uses it, but I've encountered a problem with this, which is that sometimes it stops the computer from crunching even if nobody uses it because of the antivirus or anything else that might take a little bit of juice. If it is what is causing the low PPD, you could just put a bigger percent. Also, the option "While computer is in use" is very sensitive, if you dare to move the mouse 1mm, it's in use.

 

[[Ion]]

Opty 6376 system is still stable after about three and a half days. Leaving early on Friday so I'm not going to try the alternative BIOS / OCing yet. A project for Monday next week. Aiming for a ~12% OC since that should put me solidly over 40k PPD on it

 

[Nordic]

Then 2 things come to my mind

1- It's overheating - Not likely

2- It's a setting in BOINC (or in the WCG profile), I'm mostly thinking about "While processor usage is less than [X] percent", maybe you did set a low percent so that your brother doesn't have to deal with a slow computer while he uses it, but I've encountered a problem with this, which is that sometimes it stops the computer from crunching even if nobody uses it because of the antivirus or anything else that might take a little bit of juice. If it is what is causing the low PPD, you could just put a bigger percent. Also, the option "While computer is in use" is very sensitive, if you dare to move the mouse 1mm, it's in use.

It has never made sense to me. I remember @t_ski being upset with the performance of an APU he had.
I am a mean brother, and I have it on run always at 100% even when he uses it. The apu should put out more ppd, it just does not. It is not overheating.

I appreciate you trying to troubleshoot it. I have been through it before myself. I suspect the motherboard is holding it back. It is a biostar hifi a85w.

 

[m&m's]

It has never made sense to me. I remember @t_ski being upset with the performance of an APU he had.
I am a mean brother, and I have it on run always at 100% even when he uses it. The apu should put out more ppd, it just does not. It is not overheating.

I appreciate you trying to troubleshoot it. I have been through it before myself. I suspect the motherboard is holding it back. It is a biostar hifi a85w.

Time to install Linux over Windows or dual boot. It really would make it clear if it's software or hardware related.

 

[Toothless]

I should start timing my crunching so I can run WCG and play games at the same time, whoop.

Also my phone has been crunching every day when plugged in.

 

[manofthem]

Also my phone has been crunching every day when plugged in.

What kind of ppd are you seeing? I did a while back with my old phone and it didn't work well.

 

[Toothless]

What kind of ppd are you seeing? I did a while back with my old phone and it didn't work well.

I wish I knew. I'll say that I've been getting a lot more badges than when I was using my desktop.

 

[Nordic]

Was looking closely at my electricity usage since I have not been crunching for about 2 months, at least not at home.

Not counting my remote rigs, I use about 30% more kWH when I am crunching vs when I am not. Translates to about $15 a month. Not as bad as I thought it might be.

 

[twilyth]

What kind of ppd are you seeing? I did a while back with my old phone and it didn't work well.

Yeah, I set the temp too high, 41C I think. The battery got too hot and started to rupture. Well, not rupture. At least not yet but it was expanding like a balloon. It was probably just a matter of time. So I've set the new phone (8core Idol3) on 38C. But now the problem is that I don't get any work unless I reset the project. Pain in my f***ing ass.

 

[manofthem]

slates to about $15 a month. Not as bad as I thought it might be.

Thats really nice and definitely a reason to keep crunching.

Yeah, I set the temp too high, 41C I think. The battery got too hot and started to rupture. Well, not rupture. At least not yet but it was expanding like a balloon. It was probably just a matter of time. So I've set the new phone (8core Idol3) on 38C. But now the problem is that I don't get any work unless I reset the project. Pain in my f***ing ass.

Major bummer! it just doesn't seem worth it to me to give the mobile computing a go again, seems there's always a issue. Just me though and I hope for the best for everyone else that does it!

 

[theonedub]

Checked my PC this morning and my pump just happened to decide it didn't want to spool up to the right speed. It was still just crunching away at 80C for who knows how long

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

@manofthem

 

[manofthem]

@manofthem

Oh boy, that is epic cloud configuration right there!

Thanks for sharing, I'd wet my pants of I saw that in real life

 

[mjkmike]

Just dropped in to give an update, my Mum went in for a pacemaker and came out much older than she was when she had it. It is hard too see a strong hard working person like that go from working in the garden to asking for help.

 

[stinger608]

Just dropped in to give an update, my Mum went in for a pacemaker and came out much older than she was when she had it. It is hard too see a strong hard working person like that go from working in the garden to asking for help.

Ah crap Mike, very sorry to hear that news my friend.

 

[hat]

I should start timing my crunching so I can run WCG and play games at the same time, whoop.

Also my phone has been crunching every day when plugged in.

Be careful with that. I crunched on my retired ZTE Force 24/7 until recently. I'm not sure if it was because of heat, or constantly being plugged in, or both, but I noticed the battery beginning to swell. These swollen batteries can leak, catch fire or even explode.

 

[[Ion]]

I've been categorically told that I cannot continue to run the server. A shame, as nearly 40k PPD out of one box is amazing. Ought to be able to get a week or week and a half out of it still by poking at the new BIOS/OCing, but otherwise it'll probably have to be turned off until Dec/Jan. Tried to see if I could rent rackspace at one of my jobs but was told no. Too new at the other one to even consider asking. Oh well. But I do have the FX8350 at work (using it to drive two more monitors) so that's at least a consistent 6k PPD. And I'm going to talk to the IT guy to see if he'd be at all willing to let me deploy BOINC across the ~30 i7 4790s we have here. That would be fun.

 

[mstenholm]

I've been categorically told that I cannot continue to run the server. And I'm going to talk to the IT guy to see if he'd be at all willing to let me deploy BOINC across the ~30 i7 4790s we have here. That would be fun.

So your host could feel the heat from the basement Yes a hord of 4790s would be great fun.