Rumor, GTX1060 Specs, Performance and Discussion

[xkm1948]

It seems 1060 would have ~1280SP comes in either 3GB or 6GB VRAM. Looking at Pascal effiency, I think it is safe to assume GTX1060 should be at 980 performance level at least. If it is placed around $250 it would be a great main stream card. The power consumption should be way better than RX480.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Gotta love that graph....it literally means nothing. I guess Nvidia feels that will cause the masses to swoon.

 

[Batou1986]

.15 is not that much so we will have to see, if it can match the price and performance of the RX480 AMD has a problem

Next Nvidia chart will have cells in .00% increments

Hours later Reddit delivers

 

[xkm1948]

Lower power consumption, better performance. Everything is good except that 3GB vram. Reminds me too much of 970. I was inches away from being persuaded from purchasing a 970 last year.

 

[cdawall]

I will be surprised if it actually beats the 480 in VR in anything other than power efficiency.

 

[GhostRyder]

I think it's going to matter how well with those specs the chip actually scales. Right now just by looking at its basic specs, it's got half the cores, same clocks, less memory bandwidth, and a decent amount of ram. It's curious what it's actually going to do. can't wait to see it as it sounds decent. Though unfortunately because of its power I'll be waiting for the 1050 for a possible upgrade to my 0 power connector 950.

 

[cdawall]

If this is as efficient as it should be there should be a no power connector version.

 

[chaosmassive]

In my opinion, if this card priced somewhere between 200~240 (very unlikely happens anyway),
RX 480 facing a very tough competition with possibility killed in action during battle with GTX 1060
because of "true" PCI power delivery and 6-pin issue, no one bother to buy reference card of RX480, giving time window for Nvidia launch this card

 

[cdawall]

In my opinion, if this card priced somewhere between 200~240 (very unlikely happens anyway),
RX 480 facing a very tough competition with possibility killed in action during battle with GTX 1060
because of "true" PCI power delivery and 6-pin issue, no one bother to buy reference card of RX480, giving time window for Nvidia launch this card

I have personally seen the 480's fly off the shelf. So I don't know where you are talking about them not selling.

 

[chaosmassive]

well, different regional I guess?
because I dont see any RX 480 demand on my country

 

[cdawall]

well, different regional I guess?
because I dont see any RX 480 demand on my country

The local microcenter, 7 companies provided a decent number of cards for launch all 7 brands are sold out.

 

[medi01]

Leak show 1060 to be 8% and 10% faster than stock 480 in firestrike and firestrike ultra:
http://videocardz.com/61884/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-3dmark-fire-strike-performance


Which is somewhat short of the promised "very fast" +15% from the lolchart, also considering nvidia tends to score better in benches than in games vs amd gpus.

because I dont see any RX 480 demand on my country

I don't see any 1080/1070 demand in Germany, plenty of cards in stock for nearly a month already.
What gives?

In my opinion, if this card priced somewhere between 200~240 (very unlikely happens anyway),

250$
And that's probably the 3Gb "can't run SLI" one.

 

[RejZoR]

Plus the fact how AMD keeps drivers optimized over time and NVIDIA just doesn't give a F and starts losing performance...

 

[medi01]

Plus the fact how AMD keeps drivers optimized over time and NVIDIA just doesn't give a F and starts losing performance...

Haha, 3% boost promised "in modern games" in the upcoming patch (to be released in 48 hours they said).

 

[the54thvoid]

Plus the fact how AMD keeps drivers optimized over time and NVIDIA just doesn't give a F and starts losing performance...

That's a myth dude. There is no performance loss. The argument is that Nvidia release highly optimised drivers that give close to best performance for a given game at the time of release. AMD on the other hand take longer to reach the same level of optimisation. Very quick example of one of the few games still tested.

GTX 780ti Nov 7th 2013 (2 1/2 years ago)

GTX 780ti (last week)

The 780ti is up 1.6%
The 290X is up by 8.4%

This is why AMD have an edge with DX12 - the GCN takes a lot of work to code with DX11 (so I've read) but with DX12 there is less driver work involved, although it's still there.

One of the debates is if DX12 will flip that history, where Nvidia will take a lot longer to get the best out of it's drivers (not relying on Async) whereas GCN is very good with Async.

 

[RejZoR]

780 which is 2 generations back. Ask GTX 480 and 580 users the same. They don't seem to agree about that...

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Exactly, and because of the lack of next gen games (namely just Hitman and Ashes of Singularity) how AMD and NVIDIA stack up a year from now is largely unknown.

Both DX12 and Vulkan are closer-to-the-metal. Developers can do their own optimizations instead of relying on hardware vendors to optimize drivers for them. Drivers become less important...as they should have been since forever.

 

[medi01]

Exactly, and because of the lack of next gen games (namely just Hitman and Ashes of Singularity) how AMD and NVIDIA stack up a year from now is largely unknown.

Well, considering 480 edges 980 at most DX12 games, I'm pretty sure how things will stack.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

In AMD's favor, yes, but is it enough for AMD to capture the performance crown? The sample size (two games) is too small to be certain of anything at this point.


Edit: Forgot Rise of the Tomb Raider which is NVIDIA's favor. It's not clear if Rise of the Tomb Raider uses the new features of DX12 (like Ashes of the Singularity does) or if it was just a quick port.

 

[medi01]

The sample size (two games)

Not really 2:

Rise of the Tomb Raider (DX12)
Hitman (DX12)
Ashes of Singularity (DX12)
Quantum Break (DX12)
Gears of War (DX12)
Forza 6 Apex (DX12)
Total War: Warhammer (DX12)

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Only Rise of the Tomb Raider (NVIDIA bias), Hitman (AMD bias), and Ashes of the Singularity (AMD bias) were well benchmarked/compared. Quantum Break doesn't support DirectX 11 so there's no reference. Gears of War (the re-release) also doesn't support DirectX 11. Being a Universal Windows Platform title (like Quantum Break) also makes it a poor choice for benchmarking.

Forza 6 Apex and Warhammer haven't been benchmarked in DX11 and DX12 for a solid comparison from what I can tell; moreover, Warhammer will have bias because AMD sponsored the port.

 

[Nergal]

Can´t beat around the bush that the Rx480 delivers quite remarkable speeds on DX12, can play high quality on FULL HD and is cheaper than what the competition has to offer.
I can´t stress enough that if NVIDIA doesn´t drop prices of the 1060 in the range of the Rx480; they will have missed a huge opportunity to maintain or even gain market share.

It doesn´t matter if it is faster, its´ the pricing that counts.
Hell, the 1060 could even be as fast as a 1070GTX; if it is too much money, it is too much money, simple as that.

Just think about how putting a 3GB card against a 8GB card for the same pricing sounds to the average PC person.
Defending that will just sound like nvidia-fanboy talk; regardless if you are right or not.

 

[dorsetknob]

does it Come with 6 gig of Ram but 3 gig Disabled in Bios ( hack/unlockable )

 

[RejZoR]

AMD did their job well at this point. They didn't just attack performance, they attacked a very specific price range. In the past they tossed out bunch of pointless models trying to capture customers, but now, they released one and focused heavily on segment it matters the most. They'll release cheaper and slower models, but heavy hitter is the RX480. And I have to say, if I still had HD7950, going with RX480 is a no brainer. Maybe not reference model, but some aftermarket one. I'd pay 50€ more for sure.

 

[the54thvoid]

780 which is 2 generations back. Ask GTX 480 and 580 users the same. They don't seem to agree about that...

Wait, you want Nvidia (and AMD) to keep optimising drivers for cards 4-5 years old? Okay. I can't argue against that except to say - not a good business model.

For reference, that was as far back as I could go using TPU graphs that use the same resolution. Slip back further and the res changes to 1920x1200 or 2560x1600.