Fast charging USB port Asus Z170 Pro Gaming?

[P4-630]

I have 1 fast charging USB port on my G750JX laptop,
charging my phone on my laptop everytime.
Is there such on my motherboard?

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Does this help?

http://event.asus.com/mb/2010/ai_charger/

 

[P4-630]

Does this help?

http://event.asus.com/mb/2010/ai_charger/

Not sure about that, I have a Galaxy S4, they mention apple products.
And I see this is from 2010, would it support my current motherboard?

 

[P4-630]

Ok I have installed it and my phone is connected to a USB 3.0 port, see how it goes.
I can't find any settings for this software so I guess it works on all USB 3.0 ports?
On my laptop it's only working on one USB 3.0 port.

 

[INSTG8R]

AI Charger is in AI Suite. It's the "same" as Caps linked you but for your board.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

I have Galaxy S4

Software on my phone tells me that to fully charge my phone through my ASUS ROG ii will take 1hr 36 mins. I just connected it to the power brick USB connector and it says it will take 1 hr 23 minutes to charge so it apparently works for me at a similar speed to plugging the phone in to the wall.

 

[P4-630]

AI Charger is in AI Suite. It's the "same" as Caps linked you but for your board.

Ok just installed AI Suite from my motherboard disc, I think this version is newer.
I have fast charging enabled now, assuming it works on all USB 3.0 ports.
Have to wait and see what it does.

Thanks.

 

[INSTG8R]

Ok just installed AI Suite from my motherboard disc, I think this version is newer.
I have fast charging enabled now, assuming it works on all USB 3.0 ports.
Have to wait and see what it does.

Thanks.

Yeah it should be and better to use that one anyway.

 

[Bill_Bright]

RTFM.

 

[P4-630]

RTFM.

It isn't in the FM...

If you read the thread I have already found a solution and your reply wasn't needed anymore....

 

[Bill_Bright]

I did read the thread. And note you asked, "Is there such on my motherboard?" That's what I was responding to.

I am glad you found a solution, however.

 

[Caring1]

Just as an aside, my Asrock motherboard has a similar app that functions on all USB ports, but I can't see a noticeable difference, in fact, connecting my phone in my car charges it in a quarter of the time compared to the supplied mains charger or via the computer.

 

[Bill_Bright]

my Asrock motherboard has a similar app that functions on all USB ports

Are you sure that is a "Fast" charge feature? I note for most PC motherboards (and many notebooks while the charger is plugged in), there is an option to keep USB ports "alive" during sleep mode so you can charge your phone while your PC sleeps. But that is not a "fast" charge option.

"Fast" charge enables a larger current (more amperage) to flow through the interface for the battery to suck up - something the traces on the motherboard may not support while a cigarette charger or USB port in a car could easily support many times over.

 

[cadaveca]

Are you sure that is a "Fast" charge feature? I note for most PC motherboards (and many notebooks while the charger is plugged in), there is an option to keep USB ports "alive" during sleep mode so you can charge your phone while your PC sleeps. But that is not a "fast" charge option.

"Fast" charge enables a larger current (more amperage) to flow through the interface for the battery to suck up - something the traces on the motherboard may not support while a cigarette charger or USB port in a car could easily support many times over.

boards have been supporting 1-2A Fast Charge rather than 500mV for 4-5 years now. Welcome to 2016. Perhaps you need to RTFM a few times. ROFL. Motherboard traces. W-O-W.

I have 1 fast charging USB port on my G750JX laptop,
charging my phone on my laptop everytime.
Is there such on my motherboard?

Yes, there is. USB 3.1 at least supports the higher draw rate (part of USB 3.1 spec), and usually front panel USB 3.0 and one of the USB 2.0 pin headers support this. As CAPSLOCKSTUCKK posted, many phones will tell you charge time, making it easier to see which ports work, and which do not. Ther are usually a couple of the rear panel as well, but maybe only the USB 3.1.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Yeah, I know - and FTR, I have read many motherboard manuals including my (Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3) manual. And it does not support any fast charging - though it does support USB power during sleep. And I note you seem to be assuming all PC motherboards support fast charging. Not true. In fact, I dare same not many PC motherboards do. So before jumping to criticize others, I welcome you to 2016.

Note too "fast charging" is a relative term. The comparison was made to a car charger which allows for considerably higher current and faster charge rate than any computer based fast charge system that I am aware of. Same as many separate wall USB chargers, many of which support 3.4A per USB port, with some supporting over 5A.

 

[cadaveca]

So before jumping to criticize others, I welcome you to 2016.

Actually, I do very much assume all boards with USB 3.1 Type-C support Fast Charge, because it's required. I know that his board has 3.1 Type-C. ASUS is also pretty good and making sure the fornt panel USB 3.0 does as well, although not the full 100W spec that is possible for USB 3.0/3.1.

 

[tabascosauz]

@P4-630 I'm not sure about the Apple side of things, but at least on the Android side of things the ability of your phone to "fast charge" depends largely on the features of the particular SoC. Qualcomm's "Quick Charge" is the most prominent and most widely advertised. The list is here https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list

There was an Anandtech article detailing what Quick Charge actually details, but basically it's v2.0 and v3.0 that mean anything significant and where you'll actually see a large improvement in charging-to-full times. The APQ8064AB S600 in the S4 (I hope you aren't saddled with the Exynos S4 as I know nothing about that one's quick charge capabilities lol) is off the v2.0 list (which starts at the S5, which I have and can confirm works under picky circumstances) and thus the S4 is presumably stuck with v1.0.

IMO literally all decent price-point boards have a fast charge feature in some form or another. The issue should lie with the ability of your mobile device to support it.

EDIT: Ah, from AT's S600 S4 review:

So evidently v1.0 does provide a big boost when your battery is nearly empty. I'm probably getting this wrong, this might not apply to charging off of mobos methinks,.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Actually, I do very much assume all boards with USB 3.1 Type-C support Fast Charge, because it's required.

Here are the specs for his notebook. Please show where his board has 3.1 Type-C. It has 3.0 which is required to maintain "up to" a maximum of 900 mA current - which is faster than 500, but not "fast" by any means when compared to plug in chargers.

And note that 900 mA maximum is the same for 3.1. The USB 3.1 Type-C specifications can be found here. I confess, I did not read word for word through the 631 page document, but I did a lot of searching and could find nothing about "fast charging" or "quick charge" or higher current capability beyond a maximum of 900 mA. Since you claim "Fast Charge" is required by USB 3.1 Type=C, perhaps you can show us where "all boards" that have 3.1 Type C must support fast charging.

And of course, USB 3.1 does not imply it uses a Type C connector.

 

[cadaveca]

Here are the specs for his notebook. Please show where his board has 3.1 Type-C. It has 3.0 which is required to maintain "up to" a maximum of 900 mA current - which is faster than 500, but not "fast" by any means when compared to plug in chargers.

And note that 900 mA maximum is the same for 3.1. The USB 3.1 Type-C specifications can be found here. I confess, I did not read word for word through the 631 page document, but I did a lot of searching and could find nothing about "fast charging" or "quick charge" or higher current capability beyond a maximum of 900 mA. Since you claim "Fast Charge" is required by USB 3.1 Type=C, perhaps you can show us where "all boards" that have 3.1 Type C must support fast charging.

And of course, USB 3.1 does not imply it uses a Type C connector.

he's asking about his motherboard though, not his laptop.

This specification describes the architecture, protocols, power supply behavior, connectors and cabling necessary for managing power delivery over USB at up to 100W.

 

[P4-630]

The thing is, on my laptop it charges much faster than when I plug it in the wall socket, my laptop is providing power to 1 of the 4 USB 3.0 ports when it's off.
It might not be the "fast" charging what you guys talk about then, but it charges about 50% faster than when I plug it in the wall with the original samsung charger (which is a about 6 hours).
I never looked at the time exactly how fast it's really charging.
Anyways, it seems the charge time was now about the same as when I plug it in my laptop.
I'll try the USB 3.1 port next time, maybe it's the same, I'll see.

 

[Bill_Bright]

The thing is, on my laptop it charges much faster than when I plug it in the wall socket,

That's entirely possible. You would need to look at the output current capability of the wall charger. It may not and likely is not very high if it takes longer than through the notebook USB port.

 

[Caring1]

Are you sure that is a "Fast" charge feature?

Yes, I had just read the manual after coming across this thread, so was curious as to my motherboard. According to the manual, the app designed by Apple for Asrock, is 40% faster at charging than a standard USB port.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Well, there is no industry standard for what "fast" means here. So marketing weenies can claim just about anything they want. Again, you need to look at the output current capability of the wall charger to see how it compares.

 

[cadaveca]

Well, there is no industry standard for what "fast" means here. So marketing weenies can claim just about anything they want. Again, you need to look at the output current capability of the wall charger to see how it compares.

You are right, there is no direct standard is to what fast means. However, we can use the base standards offered by devices to get an idea of what fast MIGHT mean.

There are two types of basic USB wall chargers on the market right now. 500 mA and 1A. There are also 2A chargers now too, but they are not as common. There are many wallwart USB chargers that have weird things like 2.1A or 3.0A. My son's IPhone charger is one of those 2.1A units. Plug it into an android phone, ad it offers 500mA.

USB 3.1 ports can push up to 100W. The current available is obviously much higher, if the design is taken full advantage of (as some 5.25 USB 3.0/3.1 devices that connect over SATA Express and use SATA power supply).

You quoted 900mA, but obviously, if 100W is possible, 900mA is NOT the maximum. AFAIK, it's 5A. Going through those documents you linked earlier will show you this. 5A @ 20V = 100W. 900mA USB 3.0 is for data port connection. Charge-only ports (such as those for USB-to-wall plug adapters) are up to 1.5A. USB 3.1 can offer 1.5A and 3.0 A on 5V

here is a device that offers USB 3.0 connection sold at one of my local retailers, with 1A and 2.1A charge rates (which nullifies for sure your 900mA idea):

http://www.b-com.ca/VANTEC-Aluminum...-Hub-3-DCP-2-1A-2A-Retail-UGT-AH400U3-3C.html


What is interesting is that once a motherboard powers down, some ports still offer charging capabilities. Since data is not active, it is possible these ports can offer the boosted charges rates @ up to 5A, but I do not think that any boards actually offer this as this time. I know that on my ASU Z170 DELUXE, it charges faster when the PC is off. Not sure why or whatever.

Yes, I had just read the manual after coming across this thread, so was curious as to my motherboard. According to the manual, the app designed by Apple for Asrock, is 40% faster at charging than a standard USB port.

A standard USB port is 350 mA or 500 mA. Likely your board's ports may be 500 mA (add 40% of 350mA, you get 500 ). It might require using a specific port or header to get the added charge power. For some time, the USB 2.0 port offered this, and the plug on the bottom edge of boards that offered it had the header colored red inside so you knew which one had the higher power.

In order for the high power charging to be enabled, there has to be some ID done so the "port" knows it can offer the higher power. That's why we have software to enable the higher charge rate.

 

[Bill_Bright]

There are two types of basic USB wall chargers on the market right now. 500 mA and 1A.

Nah! There are MANY of greater capability. 3.4A is common and there are even 5A out there.

The ones that come with phones and other devices may fall into those tiny capability categories. But I bet that is JUST as a penny pinching, profit policy of the phone maker - so they can push their customers into buying their expensive after-sale accessories. Aftermarket chargers can be considerably more capable.

I note, unless specifically disabled, all computer USB ports are "alive" when the computer is sleeping. They have to be to allow USB keyboards and mice to wake them up. But that is not the same as charging level currents.

And with notebooks, these ports are managed entirely different. PCs (as per the ATX form factor standard) must supply +5vsb standby voltage to various points when the PSU is in standby mode. With notebooks, there are batteries and various power management options that come into play when the charger is connected and when on battery power.

I think what this debate illustrates is there are no industry standards. We need all these different players, including Apple, to come together. Not sure that will ever happen however.