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Okay going to play devils advocate here. I am no network expert. However I do know how to set up a network, modem and router. Why not just get a nice router and be done? I see the recommendations for a Ubiquiti ERL and I get what it is but my router serves me fine and my seed are incredible, really. I dont see how a Ubiquiti ERL can crush this network. I get very fast wireless and internet and wired is just insane speed. 1200 S Ft two stor. But literly my wireless reaches 3 houses down the street

An honest question btw my router is a TP Link AC5400. It is a little pricey but I had a Linksys WRT AC1200 before and same results

There is a reason that you see consumer parts and business class. It probably works fine for you. Put 15 clients on either of those and ask it to figure out life and watch what happens.
 
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There is a reason that you see consumer parts and business class. It probably works fine for you. Put 15 clients on either of those and ask it to figure out life and watch what happens.

Yeah makes sense. I dont get anywhere near that
 

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Yeah makes sense. I dont get anywhere near that

You would be surprised how close most households get to it now. My house, Server for movies and backups, 3 HTPC's (one per room), my gaming PC, wife's laptop, my laptop, 4-5 phones/tablets, playstation etc. That is 10-15 clients right there
 
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You would be surprised how close most households get to it now. My house, Server for movies and backups, 3 HTPC's (one per room), my gaming PC, wife's laptop, my laptop, 4-5 phones/tablets, playstation etc. That is 10-15 clients right there

My kids are in college or working, 'I'm divorced and the dog doesn't have a phone yet
 

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An almost $300 router should handle that many clients, but pushing too far past 20 it'll struggle once it can't just brute force network traffic with its CPU. A modified firmware might help to a point, but it'll never match a business/enterprise-grade network appliance as @cdawall said.

But for that kind of money, I could have an ERL ($100), and 2 Asus routers as AP's ($112 from TMobil) (and bonus 4-port switches at each location they're deployed), and a 16-port switch for the runs ($100), with better range, coverage, throughput, control and management than a single device is capable of. For me its a no-brainer, for someone with no experience it's a tougher decision. There's a sacrifice either way. Do you pay for simplicity and limitations with something that's more easily managed? Or do you pay for better management and capabilities but is more complex to setup? Plus knowing the budget at-hand here can have a huge difference.

That's why I recommended several different ways this could go...the budget TMobil Asus router option is great on the cheap... adding a little more and mix an ERL or ERX with 2 Asus routers as AP's, solid choice. Replacing the Asus routers for dedicated AP's is the next step...not as necessary as a better router...especially considering how powerful the Asus routers are and in AP mode they're not even close to fully utilized even with 15 connected devices (ask me how I know! ;) ). But if that same Asus is responsible for routing, firewall, QoS, wireless, DHCP, DNS, then it'll suffer with that many connected devices. Offloading some of the tasks to separate hardware helps in a few ways.

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I think Kursah's cheap option is the way to go from the info OP has given us. Like he said, it also gives flexibility later on. Want to upgrade your router later because you upgraded to gigabit connection and you now have kids coming over all the time with 5 devices each and you want to put Firewall and QoS and VoIP and IPTV and network-wide ad-blocking and whatnot? No problem, just put the ASUS on AP mode and it'll be great.

I love Ubiquity, but in a 1500 sq ft place, where anything intensive is going to be wired... I don't see the value of spending 165$ on ER Lite and an AC lite when you can spend 59$ on that decent ASUS router and spend way less time setting it up. Is there any special needs that would require something better than that ASUS router? Even in routing mode, as long as you don't do too many things on it, can easily handle those devices, especially in normal usage cases. Those smart home devices don't affect the network like a normal device would at all so the number of devices doesn't seem like a concern to me. Hell, I've seen a café use an N66u as their router for a long time before upgrading to a proper SonicWall solution, and the N66u handled all those clients really well.

I have an N56u in my 2000 sq ft house, in the basement where half the walls are concrete, have wired up my house as well, less gaming consoles and smart home stuff (only Philips hue lights) but more laptops and a small server, and even the more sensitive stuff like VoIP works great. I'm still going to eventually get an ER PoE and an AC Pro for fun though :p
 
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No set budget

Just need a strong network

Also going to be using a server (Xeon Rig to stream and store files on)

Equipment I have so far I could possibly make use of :laugh:

D-LINK DIR 655
D-LINK DIR 605
Belkin N150

Also since no one asked

I'm using Xfinity Internet service 75Mb/s
 

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Was offered a D-Link DES-1024D for $15 fully working

What do you guys think?
 

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Was offered a D-Link DES-1024D for $15 fully working

What do you guys think?

The specs show it as only a Fast Ethernet Switch, which means 100Mbps. A gigabit switch like I linked prior is 1000Mbps. What that equates to is about 9MB/s transfer rates peak on the slower switch and up to almost 100MB/s on the gigabit switch. Massively noticeable for file transfers between devices and also helpful when there's a lot of devices, streaming and different traffic.

I wouldn't pay money for that switch TBH, but I get 100 meg switches all the time since we get them donated from sites that no longer use them...we usually recycle them because nobody wants the slow technology any longer.

No set budget

Just need a strong network

Well all options I've suggested and others have suggested should provide that. Kinda depends on what you want to spend and what you want to learn to work with at this point.

To have a strong network, you need strong hardware and software, and understanding how to use them and properly deploy them. Hopefully we can guide you in the right direction and I feel we have thus far.

Also going to be using a server (Xeon Rig to stream and store files on)

Equipment I have so far I could possibly make use of :laugh:

D-LINK DIR 655

Is a so-so device now a days, was maaaaybe decent 9 years ago. Might make a decent wireless-N AP. I wouldn't rely on it as a router.

D-LINK DIR 605

Meh... possibly another wireless-N AP. I wouldn't rely on this as a router either.

Belkin N150

I used to own one like this, I used it as a lab router/travel router for a short time. Overall I gave it away as it was junk with more than a few devices connected and choked at even 30Mbps WAN speeds. Was fine for very basic use with 3-5 devices at most. Once I started adding my server lab, kid PC's, smartphones and tablets, TV's, Roku's, this thing was constantly locking up.

Again, might be useful as a wireless-N AP.

Also since no one asked

I'm using Xfinity Internet service 75Mb/s

Good to know, but I'm more concerned with how your network works internally at this point. Having a good router will make the best use of your WAN connection whether its 5Mbps or 1000Mbps. That's what something like an ERX, ERL, higher-end Asus routers even can provide. Though the Asus will struggle before the Edgerouters do, whether or not you notice that depends on how you use your bandwidth and how you use your devices.

A router is your gateway to the Internet, it must manage all inbound and outbound traffic, must scan packets and confirm accepted or dropped sessions, might process QoS for bandwidth management for whatever protocols are being used, all while you're busy using your stuff not worrying about what its doing. I wouldn't skimp here and I wouldn't use something cheap and old either, you'll regret it.

Sure you could use one of those D-Links or the Belkin as a router and the other 2 as AP's, it might do the trick for you...but it will eventually cause slowness.

Going with those $60 Asus routers, those are Wireless AC routers, used as AP's would have good range and AC bandwidth and better N bandwidth. The UniFi AP's near that price point are only N, but they are purpose-built, simple to config, and easier to mount/hide and have better range. It really depends on where you want to go with this. I suggest you research what has been suggested thus far to familiarize with what we've recommended and understand better why we're recommending them, and also to see if they will work for your needs.

There's so many different ways this could go, from cheap to expensive, from incapable to overkill, from simple to complex. I'm curious to see what you end up with and look forward to helping you!

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Nah I'd prefer something like this with a wall mount bracket all day long. It's not that hard to punch down a few lines...and less shitty to do than 66 blocks to boot, which really aren't that bad or a pain in the ass IMHO.

They are when in a old mc10 or a MPOE closet, theyed cause high error counts and scotchlocks would eliminate those, ive had bad pair splices and had to remove the pair out to resolve issues. Ive seen a few of those wall mounts not working properly in apartments and homes even (in smart panels) then again theyed mostly be setup for pots/voip.
 

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They are when in a old mc10 or a MPOE closet, theyed cause high error counts and scotchlocks would eliminate those, ive had bad pair splices and had to remove the pair out to resolve issues. Ive seen a few of those wall mounts not working properly in apartments and homes even (in smart panels) then again theyed mostly be setup for pots/voip.

Not really an issue here IMHO since nobody suggested using a 66-block.

Scotch locks are a band aid, which while it gets the job done, that doesn't fix the issue with a bad block or bad splice at the block which should be fixed right in the first place IMHO. But for quick fix, scotch locks sure do get the job done I agree. As a bypass to a 66-block, no thanks. I've seen a few 66-block issues, not nearly enough to write them off...nor would I want to scotch lock a 25-pair. I'd be holding up the guy that punched down on a 66-block.

Not sure that this conversation is really relevant to the OP, but I'd be glad to continue it in PM if you'd like. I'm interested in hearing more of what you have to say. :toast:
 

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The specs show it as only a Fast Ethernet Switch, which means 100Mbps. A gigabit switch like I linked prior is 1000Mbps. What that equates to is about 9MB/s transfer rates peak on the slower switch and up to almost 100MB/s on the gigabit switch. Massively noticeable for file transfers between devices and also helpful when there's a lot of devices, streaming and different traffic.

I wouldn't pay money for that switch TBH, but I get 100 meg switches all the time since we get them donated from sites that no longer use them...we usually recycle them because nobody wants the slow technology any longer.



Well all options I've suggested and others have suggested should provide that. Kinda depends on what you want to spend and what you want to learn to work with at this point.

To have a strong network, you need strong hardware and software, and understanding how to use them and properly deploy them. Hopefully we can guide you in the right direction and I feel we have thus far.



Is a so-so device now a days, was maaaaybe decent 9 years ago. Might make a decent wireless-N AP. I wouldn't rely on it as a router.



Meh... possibly another wireless-N AP. I wouldn't rely on this as a router either.



I used to own one like this, I used it as a lab router/travel router for a short time. Overall I gave it away as it was junk with more than a few devices connected and choked at even 30Mbps WAN speeds. Was fine for very basic use with 3-5 devices at most. Once I started adding my server lab, kid PC's, smartphones and tablets, TV's, Roku's, this thing was constantly locking up.

Again, might be useful as a wireless-N AP.



Good to know, but I'm more concerned with how your network works internally at this point. Having a good router will make the best use of your WAN connection whether its 5Mbps or 1000Mbps. That's what something like an ERX, ERL, higher-end Asus routers even can provide. Though the Asus will struggle before the Edgerouters do, whether or not you notice that depends on how you use your bandwidth and how you use your devices.

A router is your gateway to the Internet, it must manage all inbound and outbound traffic, must scan packets and confirm accepted or dropped sessions, might process QoS for bandwidth management for whatever protocols are being used, all while you're busy using your stuff not worrying about what its doing. I wouldn't skimp here and I wouldn't use something cheap and old either, you'll regret it.

Sure you could use one of those D-Links or the Belkin as a router and the other 2 as AP's, it might do the trick for you...but it will eventually cause slowness.

Going with those $60 Asus routers, those are Wireless AC routers, used as AP's would have good range and AC bandwidth and better N bandwidth. The UniFi AP's near that price point are only N, but they are purpose-built, simple to config, and easier to mount/hide and have better range. It really depends on where you want to go with this. I suggest you research what has been suggested thus far to familiarize with what we've recommended and understand better why we're recommending them, and also to see if they will work for your needs.

There's so many different ways this could go, from cheap to expensive, from incapable to overkill, from simple to complex. I'm curious to see what you end up with and look forward to helping you!

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Welp do you have any switches to let go :roll:

Most of the routers I linked I thought a out using as AP's

A dedicated man router I haven't decided on yet

I like the Asus option but I also like the Ubi option as well

I want a capable system but I also don't need it to complicated just In case my wife needs to troubleshoot it if I'm not around.
 

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Nothing faster than a 10/100, but it would cost you shipping to get and really you'd be better off getting a decent gigabit switch like the $100 I recommended prior. That would be an excellent switch with a lifetime warranty. Tough to argue with and I've deployed quite a few of them with 0 issues.

You made no mention of using those routers as AP's when you posted them, but I'm glad we're on the same page for what they might be useful for. They won't be nearly as good as that Asus router or a UBNT access point that were previously suggested though...range, speed, reliability, signal strength and management will all be subpar in comparison.

The Asus would make a good main router and a good access point. The UBNT option will of course be better. But both will require your wife understand how to access the webGUI and know what to look for. My wife has 0 interest in that stuff.

I setup my ERL to be a drop-in replacement and labeled what wires go where, all she's gotta do is plug it in and go. Eventually I may test CARP on PFSense and have my virtual lab router take over should the physical one fail. For now...drop in replacement is effective and cheap and she was able to accomplish it on a test run we did.

The thing with the Ubiquity stuff, it's set it and forget it style... very rarely have I had to go back in and reconfigure anything...though the same is said for Asus routers on Merlin.

The UBNT have an LED ring that tells you their status, some use Green/Yellow/Red or Blue/White on newer ones. So a simple look at the device will tell you if a wireless issue exists. That might make diag easier on a visual level without needing to understand a webGUI or accessing it.
 

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Nothing faster than a 10/100, but it would cost you shipping to get and really you'd be better off getting a decent gigabit switch like the $100 I recommended prior. That would be an excellent switch with a lifetime warranty. Tough to argue with and I've deployed quite a few of them with 0 issues.

You made no mention of using those routers as AP's when you posted them, but I'm glad we're on the same page for what they might be useful for. They won't be nearly as good as that Asus router or a UBNT access point that were previously suggested though...range, speed, reliability, signal strength and management will all be subpar in comparison.

The Asus would make a good main router and a good access point. The UBNT option will of course be better. But both will require your wife understand how to access the webGUI and know what to look for. My wife has 0 interest in that stuff.

I setup my ERL to be a drop-in replacement and labeled what wires go where, all she's gotta do is plug it in and go. Eventually I may test CARP on PFSense and have my virtual lab router take over should the physical one fail. For now...drop in replacement is effective and cheap and she was able to accomplish it on a test run we did.

The thing with the Ubiquity stuff, it's set it and forget it style... very rarely have I had to go back in and reconfigure anything...though the same is said for Asus routers on Merlin.

The UBNT have an LED ring that tells you their status, some use Green/Yellow/Red or Blue/White on newer ones. So a simple look at the device will tell you if a wireless issue exists. That might make diag easier on a visual level without needing to understand a webGUI or accessing it.
Oh my wife loves to ticker especially computer related things so that's of no concern
 

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Well if that's the case then either should work fine.

AsusWRT and MerlinWRT both have the same GUI and its easy to use and navigate.

EdgeOS on the ERL and ERX, is clean and a little more technical, but is easy to navigate after a little time familiarizing with it.

Either way should be good. Also the UI for the UBNT AP's is easy to work with, but requires a web-based java application to run and connect to them. But the interface is quite easy to manage after reviewing the guide and poking around.
 

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Well if that's the case then either should work fine.

AsusWRT and MerlinWRT both have the same GUI and its easy to use and navigate.

EdgeOS on the ERL and ERX, is clean and a little more technical, but is easy to navigate after a little time familiarizing with it.

Either way should be good. Also the UI for the UBNT AP's is easy to work with, but requires a web-based java application to run and connect to them. But the interface is quite easy to manage after reviewing the guide and poking around.
Alright I ordered the Netgear ProSafe Gigabit switch

but I'm really thinking on the router options and AP's
 

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Excellent, you'll be very happy with that switch. They're damn good units. :toast:

Well it depends on what you need, and if you want to nickel and dime it now, use what you have, and upgrade as you need more infrastructure power and capabilities or if you want to jump past go and get the good stuff now.

Do you require high bandwidth over wifi? If so, I'd look at UniFi AP's or Asus routers as AP's, preferably in MIMO with at least N if not AC technology. Also depends on your devices...I have only a few that support AC but I have the infrastructure there for when I have more devices which has been useful for me.

What are you thinking about with the router's and AP's? If you want to lay it out, maybe we can help your decision. Maybe its something you need to mull over and decide on your own. I hope we've provided you enough information to give you the ability to make an informed decision with your wallet.
 

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Excellent, you'll be very happy with that switch. They're damn good units. :toast:

Well it depends on what you need, and if you want to nickel and dime it now, use what you have, and upgrade as you need more infrastructure power and capabilities or if you want to jump past go and get the good stuff now.

Do you require high bandwidth over wifi? If so, I'd look at UniFi AP's or Asus routers as AP's, preferably in MIMO with at least N if not AC technology. Also depends on your devices...I have only a few that support AC but I have the infrastructure there for when I have more devices which has been useful for me.

What are you thinking about with the router's and AP's? If you want to lay it out, maybe we can help your decision. Maybe its something you need to mull over and decide on your own. I hope we've provided you enough information to give you the ability to make an informed decision with your wallet.
I do really want high bandwidth just to eliminate the possibility of bottlenecks.

On top of the list in the Op

Had wireless cameras and more Wireless streaming devices
 

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Well while the Asus routers as AP's would handle it, I'd recommend you go with a dedicated AP device to make sure that many devices are stable and getting the signal they need. Frankly I haven't had more than 15-20 wireless devices connected at my site, and that was before I deployed the Asus router I suggested you...that was with my old AC66R/U router in AP mode and it did fine. Now i have that and the AC68U doing AP duties, I'm sure I'll be good for both devices connected, speed and reliability. But I also know that I'm not getting the performance a dedicated AP can provide...but I saved a ton of $$$ which is good because right now I'm broke as a joke.

I'd look at the UniFi AP AC Pro if you want bandwidth and reliability. These can handle a lot of devices connected, multiple SSID's, VLAN's, etc.

That or a single Ruckus R500/R600 (Read: $400-500+ per AP, but it's an amazing AP) as they have a greater range, higher bandwidth maintained and can handle 100+ connected devices per AP.

If you want fewer bottlenecks, then I'd look at the business-grade gear. That's what that stuff is designed to handle... home-grade is designed to be affordable and get the job done, but will eventually suffer under degraded performance when too much is asked of it.

Do I think using 3 Asus routers, 1 as a router and 2 as AP's could do it? Yes. Would it work well? It should. Could there be issues? Possibly...you're asking a lot. But for under $200 it'd be one helluva setup.

Do I think that going ERL + UniFi would be better? You bet your ass I would, this is business-grade consumer accessible hardware. It should perform admirably under these conditions. Something you spend time setting up, learning how to setup, saving configs and probably rarely touching again until you replace it or upgrade the firmware. The AP's can auto-upgrade their firmware if you choose which is nice, but can be risky...though UBNT have improved their stable releases IMHO.

One thing to note is if you plan on using VPN tunnels/servers, the ERL can host an OpenVPN server but it will cost it some performance and speed. Was part of why I built a PFSense box...now I run multiple VPN tunnels and can max out my bandwidth both directions with that, Squid web caching, Snort IDS/IPS, advanced QoS, bandwidth monitoring, etc. without any issues. So that might be an option too.

PFSense is easier to work with in the GUI than EdgeOS, and generally PFSense has better documentation for how to set things up as well. And no, there isn't a good PFSense build that will run on the ERL...yet. That project seemed to be scrapped.

I built a small mITX PC using an Asus SoC Intel Celeron quad core board as I stated earlier in this thread...it's such a champ..and is so very much overkill for my needs. But in the same breath, it cost me half what a PFSense SG2440 runs....though those are excellent units and come with 1 year advanced support from PFSense which is actually quite useful.
 

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Well while the Asus routers as AP's would handle it, I'd recommend you go with a dedicated AP device to make sure that many devices are stable and getting the signal they need. Frankly I haven't had more than 15-20 wireless devices connected at my site, and that was before I deployed the Asus router I suggested you...that was with my old AC66R/U router in AP mode and it did fine. Now i have that and the AC68U doing AP duties, I'm sure I'll be good for both devices connected, speed and reliability. But I also know that I'm not getting the performance a dedicated AP can provide...but I saved a ton of $$$ which is good because right now I'm broke as a joke.

I'd look at the UniFi AP AC Pro if you want bandwidth and reliability. These can handle a lot of devices connected, multiple SSID's, VLAN's, etc.

That or a single Ruckus R500/R600 (Read: $400-500+ per AP, but it's an amazing AP) as they have a greater range, higher bandwidth maintained and can handle 100+ connected devices per AP.

If you want fewer bottlenecks, then I'd look at the business-grade gear. That's what that stuff is designed to handle... home-grade is designed to be affordable and get the job done, but will eventually suffer under degraded performance when too much is asked of it.

Do I think using 3 Asus routers, 1 as a router and 2 as AP's could do it? Yes. Would it work well? It should. Could there be issues? Possibly...you're asking a lot. But for under $200 it'd be one helluva setup.

Do I think that going ERL + UniFi would be better? You bet your ass I would, this is business-grade consumer accessible hardware. It should perform admirably under these conditions. Something you spend time setting up, learning how to setup, saving configs and probably rarely touching again until you replace it or upgrade the firmware. The AP's can auto-upgrade their firmware if you choose which is nice, but can be risky...though UBNT have improved their stable releases IMHO.

One thing to note is if you plan on using VPN tunnels/servers, the ERL can host an OpenVPN server but it will cost it some performance and speed. Was part of why I built a PFSense box...now I run multiple VPN tunnels and can max out my bandwidth both directions with that, Squid web caching, Snort IDS/IPS, advanced QoS, bandwidth monitoring, etc. without any issues. So that might be an option too.

PFSense is easier to work with in the GUI than EdgeOS, and generally PFSense has better documentation for how to set things up as well. And no, there isn't a good PFSense build that will run on the ERL...yet. That project seemed to be scrapped.

I built a small mITX PC using an Asus SoC Intel Celeron quad core board as I stated earlier in this thread...it's such a champ..and is so very much overkill for my needs. But in the same breath, it cost me half what a PFSense SG2440 runs....though those are excellent units and come with 1 year advanced support from PFSense which is actually quite useful.
AC isn't a big thing for me as nothing own is compatible with it and by the time I do have devices that do the equipment will be dated.

Wireless N or Dual Band N should be plenty enough. Both offer above 100Mb and should be able to handle adequate space with a dedicated router and 1 AP

AP will be located in Hallway in front of the bedrooms ceiling mounted

Dedicated router will be in the living room at the front of the house
 

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AC isn't a big thing for me as nothing own is compatible with it and by the time I do have devices that do the equipment will be dated.

Wireless N or Dual Band N should be plenty enough. Both offer above 100Mb and should be able to handle adequate space with a dedicated router and 1 AP

AP will be located in Hallway in front of the bedrooms ceiling mounted

Dedicated router will be in the living room at the front of the house

Well here's the contradiction, you want high bandwidth, but said AC isn't a big deal. AC is capable of providing excellent bandwidth (for wireless) with AC devices and if you think you're going to trend that way soon, then install the infrastructure now. Otherwise, if you truly feel N is good enough, then you can just go with a cheaper N-supported AP. Frankly N on MIMO can provide good bandwidth to the right devices, and if your most data intensive transactions are over Ethernet, then you will be in good shape anyways.

For best results I do recommend the UniFi Pro series though, they are a little beefier. Though even the cheap UniFi should handle I believe up to 75 clients/devices without any issue...iirc at least.

Or for the same price you could go with one of those Asus AC68U's and place it in AP mode after converting it to the Asus firmware (for security purposes), and have AC infrastructure and N infrastructure for $60. Pretty solid deal and it should cover your home and handle your devices. It has a dual-core CPU that runs up to 1GHz (mine runs at 800), so it should have the processing power to handle the traffic. The AC68U is reported to cover around 3,000sq ft too...not sure if that's true. I do know that the UBNT UniFi have better ranges when mounted on the ceiling...the AC68U I don't believe can be mounted or is not intended to be...so that is worth considering.

Do keep in mind 100 Megabits/second equates to around 10Megabytes/second, and with wireless, even when connected at N300 speeds, you'll probably not quite achieve 100Megabits throughput. That's been my experience in a lot of situations, this depends on channel, signal tuning and device matching. But if that's sufficient for your needs, then you'll be set no matter which you choose honestly.

Will the router be near the switch and junction/patch panel for your cable runs? That would be the best place for it honestly. Keep the network devices together and the cables shorter than longer between them. Unless that's not possible and really shouldn't be a big deal...more of a best practice thing.

Does the dedicated router's location need to have a dedicated wireless signal or will the single AP cover that area as well?

This is good information and gives me a better picture of what you need. Thank you for sticking with it. :)
 

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Well here's the contradiction, you want high bandwidth, but said AC isn't a big deal. AC is capable of providing excellent bandwidth (for wireless) with AC devices and if you think you're going to trend that way soon, then install the infrastructure now. Otherwise, if you truly feel N is good enough, then you can just go with a cheaper N-supported AP. Frankly N on MIMO can provide good bandwidth to the right devices, and if your most data intensive transactions are over Ethernet, then you will be in good shape anyways.

For best results I do recommend the UniFi Pro series though, they are a little beefier. Though even the cheap UniFi should handle I believe up to 75 clients/devices without any issue...iirc at least.

Or for the same price you could go with one of those Asus AC68U's and place it in AP mode after converting it to the Asus firmware (for security purposes), and have AC infrastructure and N infrastructure for $60. Pretty solid deal and it should cover your home and handle your devices. It has a dual-core CPU that runs up to 1GHz (mine runs at 800), so it should have the processing power to handle the traffic. The AC68U is reported to cover around 3,000sq ft too...not sure if that's true. I do know that the UBNT UniFi have better ranges when mounted on the ceiling...the AC68U I don't believe can be mounted or is not intended to be...so that is worth considering.

Do keep in mind 100 Megabits/second equates to around 10Megabytes/second, and with wireless, even when connected at N300 speeds, you'll probably not quite achieve 100Megabits throughput. That's been my experience in a lot of situations, this depends on channel, signal tuning and device matching. But if that's sufficient for your needs, then you'll be set no matter which you choose honestly.

Will the router be near the switch and junction/patch panel for your cable runs? That would be the best place for it honestly. Keep the network devices together and the cables shorter than longer between them. Unless that's not possible and really shouldn't be a big deal...more of a best practice thing.

Does the dedicated router's location need to have a dedicated wireless signal or will the single AP cover that area as well?

This is good information and gives me a better picture of what you need. Thank you for sticking with it. :)
All the data hogs will indeed be on Ethernet. Main reason for the switch

Main router will be near the switch but the AP won't

And yes the main router will need to have wireless enabled. As the wireless devices in the front will be father away than the ones in the back that will be on the AP
 

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Well if you go with the ERL, it is not a wireless router, but strictly a gateway/firewall router. Not sure if you viewed the links provided on it in previous posts or not, but I believe I linked to it from the Amazon page for you.

So if you go that route, then plan on a second AP that you mount in that area for coverage.

If you go the Asus route, well that's a wireless router so you'd be set up front, use an UniFi AP in the back.

So you could do the Asus router if you insist on keeping things simple and effective for a home-grade solution, and a UniFi AP for the back area and have the coverage you need and the ability to mount the AP. This will be around $130 for both parts if prices are still the same as they were last week. I haven't checked on the Asus sale @ TMobil... if it's back up to $200, then that deal is gone.

EDIT: I checked and the TMobil deal is still on...they have a stupid credit check (that doesn't actually check your credit, just choose I Have AWESOME Credit if it asks). Use the -$40 code, $59.

https://www.t-mobile.com/accessory/t-mobile-wi-fi-cellspot-router

Keep in mind I do not recommend running the TMobil AsusWRT firmware version, its far behind and not secure. It's worth flashing the Asus CFI Identifier over, and flashing to an AsusWRT, MerlinWRT or Tomato firmware. Even for the AP. Totally worth the effort.
 
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