Help for overclocking my 6700K

[Terchal]

Good evening,
I have a new config and this is the first time I go overclok my CPU
Proc: I7 6700K
Motherboard: MSI Z170A gaming pro carbon
Graphics card: GTX 1080 (soon a 2nd for an SLI)
Aircooling: Dark Rock 3
Ram: 2x8 Ripjaws 4 3000mhz Cas 15

So I would like to know if you know a tutorial if possible of the same mother card

I have the gameboost mode which passes me the proc in 4.4 but I would like to up in 4.6 if possible

thank you in advance

I'm really a novice in the BIOS as I never go there to change stats etc.

 

[Komshija]

Good evening,

Good morning.

There's really no need to overclock i7 6700K yet. You will not notice any real difference between 4,0 or 4,6 GHz, except in benchmarks. If you don't know what you are doing, you can damage your system. When you overclock, you'll need to initiate a few tests to check stability and possibility to lower CPU voltage to minimum stable level for the selected frequency. On my system it's 1,34V@4,6 GHz, but on yours it might be different.

But prior to that, is there any specific reason you want to overclock?
Keep in mind that if you system is a gaming machine (I assume it is), than stock i7 6700K and one (single) GTX 1080 will be more than enough for any future game during the next 5 years. Guaranteed. If you are primarily doing advanced video editing, RAW image editing, than you should go with i7 6900K or, better, Xeon E5 2640 v4 instead of i7 6700K and at least 32GB RAM.

 

[Terchal]

Hello,

Thank you for your reply
I know but it's for fun
And I would like to learn a touch to the BIOS that could help me later who knows: p

And I want to compare with Benchmarks etc.
I always wanted to try and compare

 

[PHaS3]

will be more than enough for any future game during the next 5 years. Guaranteed.

Lol. Just lol.

On a more serious note. If you're as much of novice as you say, then perhaps don't overclock for now. Learn and fiddle a bit first. If you want to OC now, what cooling do you have on that 6700K?

 

[Terchal]

Lol. Just lol.

On a more serious note. If you're as much of novice as you say, then perhaps don't overclock for now. Learn and fiddle a bit first. If you want to OC now, what cooling do you have on that 6700K?

Proc: I7 6700K
Motherboard: MSI Z170A gaming pro carbon
Graphics card: GTX 1080 (soon a 2nd for an SLI)
Aircooling: Dark Rock 3
Ram: 2x8 Ripjaws 4 3000mhz Cas 15

 

[cadaveca]

TO OC, you really only need to change two settings:

CPU Multiplier and CPU voltage.

Try setting voltage to 1.325 V, then slowly increase multiplier from stock until boot fails. When it fails, then lower multi one or two, then test for stability.

Done.

 

[Komshija]

And I want to compare with Benchmarks etc. I always wanted to try and compare

Well, first test it at stock speed with CPU-Z and post your score (preferably with screenshot here: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/share-your-cpuz-benchmarks.216765/ At stock speeds with XMP you should score anywhere between 2100-2110 for single thread and 8950-9150 for multi thread.
CPU cooling and case cooling are very important for overclocking. Dark Rock 3 can surely take some serious overclock.

In short: in bios enter into "EZ mode" -- go to OC menu -- in "OC Explore menu choose [Expert] -- set CPU ratio to 46 -- set CPU core to [Override] -- set CPU core voltage to 1.350 . Download temperature monitor program, such as "Realtemp" and watch for temperatures. Test OC'ed CPU first with CPU-Z.

Lol. Just lol.

It will, bud. GTX1080 has more than enough power to smoothly run all future games in the near future at 1080p and 1440p; the same thing as it is now with HD 7970 or GTX 680 and 1080p monitors. Extremely expensive 4K monitors are a different story.

 

[PHaS3]

Well, first test it at stock speed with CPU-Z and post your score (preferably with screenshot here: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/share-your-cpuz-benchmarks.216765/ At stock speeds with XMP you should score anywhere between 2100-2110 for single thread and 8950-9150 for multi thread.
CPU cooling and case cooling are very important for overclocking. Dark Rock 3 can surely take some serious overclock.

In short: in bios enter into "EZ mode" -- go to OC menu -- in "OC Explore menu choose [Expert] -- set CPU ratio to 46 -- set CPU core to [Override] -- set CPU core voltage to 1.350 . Download temperature monitor program, such as "Realtemp" and watch for temperatures. Test OC'ed CPU first with CPU-Z.

It will, bud. GTX1080 has more than enough power to smoothly run all future games in the near future at 1080p and 1440p; the same thing as it is now with HD 7970 or GTX 680 and 1080p monitors. Extremely expensive 4K monitors are a different story.

K. I never promise or guarantee 5 years of running things. Its an occupational hazard. I'd say 3 years max (unless by run games you mean at lower settings, like the exe runs and there are some pictures). I know my 970 is almost 2 years old now and its starting to get long in the tooth. Things are more punishing lately, and wont get better I don't think I'm thinking games like Deus Ex Mankind Divided. A 680 with 2GB RAM isn't going to be doing much very well at this point. 5 years is a long time man, all I'm saying.

On topic, apologies, missed the Dark Rock 3. Listen to Dave (@cadaveca ) and @Komshija , and do that Be slow and careful, incremental increases in clock until its unstable, then a little more voltage. OC isn't too hard these days, just don't go nuts.

 

[Terchal]

Thank you all i go test

 

[Terchal]

I can not see what blocks but I can not get to go above the 4.4Ghz of the gameboost mode ....
My pc only crashes when I change the Vcore 1.300, 1.325, 1.350 for 4.6Ghz
I do not see the cpu ratio in the bios of my mother card can be another name?
I can not stabilize the proc on 4.5 or 4.6
I really know nothing and here is why I ask for a tutorial of the same mother card as me ^^
If it exists

thank you in advance

 

[Bert63]

I can not see what blocks but I can not get to go above the 4.4Ghz of the gameboost mode ....
My pc only crashes when I change the Vcore 1.300, 1.325, 1.350 for 4.6Ghz
I do not see the cpu ratio in the bios of my mother card can be another name?
I can not stabilize the proc on 4.5 or 4.6
I really know nothing and here is why I ask for a tutorial of the same mother card as me ^^
If it exists

thank you in advance

Page 43 of your manual will show you where the OC settings are. Look here https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z170A-GAMING-PRO-CARBON.html#down-manual

I'm running 4.6 @ 1.24 volts on air. NO REASON to start above 1.3V.

 

[Arctucas]

Page 43 of your manual will show you where the OC settings are. Look here https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/Z170A-GAMING-PRO-CARBON.html#down-manual

I'm running 4.6 @ 1.24 volts on air. NO REASON to start above 1.3V.

Great voltage.

You might get that processor close to 5GHz, if the voltage scales well.

 

[cadaveca]

I'm running 4.6 @ 1.24 volts on air. NO REASON to start above 1.3V.

You got lucky in getting a pretty good CPU, so while that might apply to your CPU, it won't apply to all, unfortunately. I mean, after all, if we go by launch reviews of these CPUs, 4.6 GHz is higher than expected. I've had chips that need 1.45 V+ for 4.6 GHz.

 

[Bert63]

You got lucky in getting a pretty good CPU, so while that might apply to your CPU, it won't apply to all, unfortunately. I mean, after all, if we go by launch reviews of these CPUs, 4.6 GHz is higher than expected. I've had chips that need 1.45 V+ for 4.6 GHz.

I agree I got lucky, but I prefer to start at a reasonable (stock) voltage and work up rather than the other way around. You told a noob to set voltage at 1.325 off the bat and leave it and only work the multiplier. Bad advice IMO.

FWIW, the wife's computer is identical to mine (except case, video card, and HDD configuration). She has her machine running 4.6Ghz @ 1.275 volts on a Phanteks PH-TC12DX. Prime95 peak temps on her machine are 68c - 72c.

Yes, my 53 year old wife builds her own machines.

 

[cadaveca]

I agree I got lucky, but I prefer to start at a reasonable (stock) voltage and work up rather than the other way around. You told a noob to set voltage at 1.325 off the bat and leave it and only work the multiplier. Bad advice IMO.

FWIW, the wife's computer is identical to mine (except case, video card, and HDD configuration). She has her machine running 4.6Ghz @ 1.275 volts on a Phanteks PH-TC12DX. Prime95 peak temps on her machine are 68c - 72c.

Yes, my 53 year old wife builds her own machines.

I do have access to information that most people don't about OC thanks to doing reviews. It's due to that knowledge and through experience with many CPUs as well as consulting with other reviewers and many users that I give that advice. Board OEMs recommend staying below 1.42V; 1.325V is more than safe, contrary to your belief. It's actually pretty good advice for quick OC testing since most CPUs will be well within thermal limits, and also out of danger from overvolting, since that chip that needed 1.45V for 4.6 GHz... ran @ 1.325V @ stock. If the voltage is too high, the CPU will overheat, and has built-in protections that will save it from any harm.

See, all of these CPUs have different stock voltages, different OC ability, and different thermal limits, so your own experience, while great info, does not apply to all cases. Mine does not either... but does allow a margin of safety as recommended by both the board makers, memory makers, and Intel themselves. Even according to those sources, who actually make the hardware we play with, my advice is very conservative, and yours even more so. Never had anyone had any problems yet, and I've been giving that same advice since before these CPUs launched.

Just wait until you see the next gen. I'm having lots of fun with all three "rumored" "K" chips. I have not signed NDA with Intel on these CPUs, so could go into more detail, but I'd much rather save that for my review.

 

[FireFox]

I'm running 4.6 @ 1.24 volts on air. NO REASON to start above 1.3V.

What settings did you use to get it at 4.6GHz 1.24V and what software did you use to test if the OC it's stable?

 

[Bert63]

What settings did you use to get it at 4.6GHz 1.24V and what software did you use to test if the OC it's stable?

Settings = multiplier set to 46, voltage started at 1.2 and worked upward in little bits until stable. For stability I use a variety of things, but primarily Prime95, Handbrake, and AIDA 64.

 

[FireFox]

Settings = multiplier set to 46, voltage started at 1.2 and worked upward in little bits until stable. For stability I use a variety of things, but primarily Prime95, Handbrake, and AIDA 64.

Fair enough.

For how long Prime95, did you use XMP or set Ram speed manually?

 

[Bert63]

I do have access to information that most people don't about OC thanks to doing reviews. It's due to that knowledge and through experience with many CPUs as well as consulting with other reviewers and many users that I give that advice. Board OEMs recommend staying below 1.42V; 1.325V is more than safe, contrary to your belief. It's actually pretty good advice for quick OC testing since most CPUs will be well within thermal limits, and also out of danger from overvolting, since that chip that needed 1.45V for 4.6 GHz... ran @ 1.325V @ stock. If the voltage is too high, the CPU will overheat, and has built-in protections that will save it from any harm.

See, all of these CPUs have different stock voltages, different OC ability, and different thermal limits, so your own experience, while great info, does not apply to all cases. Mine does not either... but does allow a margin of safety as recommended by both the board makers, memory makers, and Intel themselves. Even according to those sources, who actually make the hardware we play with, my advice is very conservative, and yours even more so. Never had anyone had any problems yet, and I've been giving that same advice since before these CPUs launched.

Just wait until you see the next gen. I'm having lots of fun with all three "rumored" "K" chips. I have not signed NDA with Intel on these CPUs, so could go into more detail, but I'd much rather save that for my review.

I do have access to information that most people don't about OC thanks to doing reviews. It's due to that knowledge and through experience with many CPUs as well as consulting with other reviewers and many users that I give that advice. Board OEMs recommend staying below 1.42V; 1.325V is more than safe, contrary to your belief. It's actually pretty good advice for quick OC testing since most CPUs will be well within thermal limits, and also out of danger from overvolting, since that chip that needed 1.45V for 4.6 GHz... ran @ 1.325V @ stock. If the voltage is too high, the CPU will overheat, and has built-in protections that will save it from any harm.

See, all of these CPUs have different stock voltages, different OC ability, and different thermal limits, so your own experience, while great info, does not apply to all cases. Mine does not either... but does allow a margin of safety as recommended by both the board makers, memory makers, and Intel themselves. Even according to those sources, who actually make the hardware we play with, my advice is very conservative, and yours even more so. Never had anyone had any problems yet, and I've been giving that same advice since before these CPUs launched.

Just wait until you see the next gen. I'm having lots of fun with all three "rumored" "K" chips. I have not signed NDA with Intel on these CPUs, so could go into more detail, but I'd much rather save that for my review.

I never said 1.325 wasn't safe, just that it was likely more than needed. More voltage generally means more heat and I'm a fan of cooler is better.

 

[Bert63]

Fair enough.

For how long Prime95, did you use XMP or set Ram speed manually?

XMP, and my final test is over night, probably 8-12 hours.

 

[cadaveca]

Settings = multiplier set to 46, voltage started at 1.2 and worked upward in little bits until stable. For stability I use a variety of things, but primarily Prime95, Handbrake, and AIDA 64.

See, this approach of yours, choosing a multi and then increasing voltage, could be more hazardous that simply selecting a safe voltage and then seeing just how far you get.

That said, you do seem to have a really good chip, and you might be able to get 5.0 out of it with a de-lid (not that I'd recommend de-lid, but it is possible to get better temps doing so) and good cooling.

By your listed sig, you and I were using the same board; my review of it is here:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/Z170-DELUXE/

I ran dual 780's and then dual 980's in it. Then recently the lower slot decided to stop working so now I have a i5-6500 in it and no VGAs at all. That 6500, under a H90, doesn't even break 50C at high load (but it is also a 65W CPU).

I never said 1.325 wasn't safe, just that it was likely more than needed. More voltage generally means more heat and I'm a fan of cooler is better.

Yeah, as I said above. I also recommend users to not go over that 1.325V ever. Some chips really do need that much to hit 4.6 though, like probably 60%+ that I have found. I mean really, with these chips you can just set multi and boot and usually it'll be stable on whatever VID the CPU requests. And that's with like 90% of chips.

I agree with you on temps for sure. These is something to be said about taking the time to tweak every setting and getting the lowest voltage and best temps possible, so much so that I still play with the CPUs I have had since the launch of Skylake, checking out if BIOS versions matter, how ram kits affect things, different boards... some boards you just got to give more voltage on than others, even. I love OC'ing, but not to push for the maximum clocks and running benchmarks... I'll all about maximum optimization for 24/7 use. Having to run benchmarks for reviews means I'm not exactly to do it for fun any more. Why play with trying to push limits when I can hop in our TS and play games with the users there?

Fair enough.

For how long Prime95, did you use XMP or set Ram speed manually?

Give ASUS RealBench a try for stability testing. I mean, you got ASUS board, why not use their tool, too?

 

[Bert63]

See, this approach of yours, choosing a multi and then increasing voltage, could be more hazardous that simply selecting a safe voltage and then seeing just how far you get.

That said, you do seem to have a really good chip, and you might be able to get 5.0 out of it with a de-lid (not that I'd recommend de-lid, but it is possible to get better temps doing so) and good cooling.

By your listed sig, you and I were using the same board; my review of it is here:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/Z170-DELUXE/

I ran dual 780's and then dual 980's in it. Then recently the lower slot decided to stop working so now I have a i5-6500 in it and no VGAs at all. That 6500, under a H90, doesn't even break 50C at high load (but it is also a 65W CPU).



Yeah, as I said above. I also recommend users to not go over that 1.325V ever. Some chips really do need that much to hit 4.6 though, like probably 60%+ that I have found. I mean really, with these chips you can just set multi and boot and usually it'll be stable on whatever VID the CPU requests. And that's with like 90% of chips.

I agree with you on temps for sure. These is something to be said about taking the time to tweak every setting and getting the lowest voltage and best temps possible, so much so that I still play with the CPUs I have had since the launch of Skylake, checking out if BIOS versions matter, how ram kits affect things, different boards... some boards you just got to give more voltage on than others, even. I love OC'ing, but not to push for the maximum clocks and running benchmarks... I'll all about maximum optimization for 24/7 use. Having to run benchmarks for reviews means I'm not exactly to do it for fun any more. Why play with trying to push limits when I can hop in our TS and play games with the users there?


Give ASUS RealBench a try for stability testing. I mean, you got ASUS board, why not use their tool, too?

All very good points. You actually have me thinking about it a bit differently LOL.. And I'm a stubborn old fart.

Downloading Realbench now.

 

[cadaveca]

All very good points. You actually have me thinking about it a bit differently LOL.. And I'm a stubborn old fart.

Downloading Realbench now.

Cool! I really am here on TPU devoting my time trying to help everyone out, so feedback like this is great motivation. Thanks!

 

[Bert63]

Great voltage.

You might get that processor close to 5GHz, if the voltage scales well.

I have no doubt - it does 4.8Ghz at 1.32V.

 

[phanbuey]

my stock voltage is 1.3v lol

Dave - what's the safest voltage I can go up to? Delidded and under a dedicated 3x120mm loop.