Need a Q9650 Overclock Guide On G31M-S2L

[silentbogo]

What happened to the TPU where people could come for help rather than being made fun of by a bunch of school yard bullies?

I'm sorry if I'm being sarcastic again, but I have a theory:
probably since humans invented logic reasoning. Add an excessive amount of information on this topic from the internet, and you get an apparent pointlessness of this thread.
A simple query "Q9650 overclocking guide" yields over 120,000 results with at least the first 10 pages of useful info, including detailed videos and written step-by-step guides.

And now, I'm sorry if I'm being sarcastic again, but you gave this kid a false sense of security:

these are total dicks that should be banned

what the hell are you mumbling about? read again, maybe this time you will put it together.

He's not here to learn about overclocking. He's here to get a click-by-click guide on overclocking, which is a completely different thing.

 

[hat]

Apologies if I'm wrong, but I honestly thought it was a joke...

 

[Gintaras]

How are you getting to 3.4?did you touch any of the voltages? Such a small bump shouldn't be giving you idle temps of 60c+ what were they before the overclock? Have you reapplied the thermal paste and made sure your cooler is installed correctly and making proper contact? you need to tell us how you got that overclock, and I would try and keep your ram as close to its rated 800mhz in the process, no use trying to overclock both at this point as it's just going to make it harder for you with your limited knowledge.

Any chance you can post some screenshots of your bios options?

Hi, this is optimized defaults.

Here is the 3.4
I enabled clock control and got a red notification to set system voltage to auto. did that.
set cpu clock ratio to 8x, fine clock to 0.5
host frequency to 400 and this is the result.

optimised defaults temperatures are 30-35C.
i must be honest , since im running low on the paste i havent reaplied it the last time i opened it. but it is covered completly ok.
Yes i have learned how to install a 775 cooler the hard way by destroying the pins on the last cooler i had before, but yes i assure you it is installed correctly with all 4pins in there perfectly.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

New guy should know his place before calling for old guys to be banned.

Im just saying.

 

[Gintaras]

New guy should know his place before calling for old guys to be banned.

Im just saying.

If they are not only, not helping, but are trashing my request with their ego-fueled mockings, WHY NOT?

FWY, i will no longer respond to off topic comments. peace.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

You should try 400 cpu host (fsb) with a multi of 9 not 8.5 (leave cpu multi fine alone), set pci express frequency to 100mhz if you have the option, set memory multi so it runs at 800 and not 960 you should in theory be able to do 3.6 or at the very least 3.4 with little other changes maybe a v small vcore bump but see how you get on with those settings

If they are not only, not helping, but are trashing my request with their ego-fueled mockings, WHY NOT?

Just chill, asking for the ban hammer is a little extreme, sometimes people forget they knew as little as you once upon a time is all

 

[Gintaras]

You should try 400 cpu host (fsb) with a multi of 9 not 8.5 (leave cpu multi fine alone), set pci express frequency to 100mhz if you have the option, set memory multi so it runs at 800 and not 960 you should in theory be able to do 3.6 or at the very least 3.4 with little other changes maybe a v small vcore bump but see how you get on with those settings



Just chill, asking for the ban hammer is a little extreme, sometimes people forget they knew as little as you once upon a time is all

Hi thanks for the reply, before i do that, what programs should i download for best testing, and what risks should i have in mind? if it fails will the pc turn off or give me any kind of errors or it will just fry without me knowing it? or is the first boot beep a good indication that all is fine?
the thing with the voltage is not seen in the photos but it says vcore may change accordingly so if i saved this and had an overclock next time in the bios it would be showed an aproriate voltage as i understand, so id like to keep voltage auto.

You should try 400 cpu host (fsb) with a multi of 9 not 8.5 (leave cpu multi fine alone), set pci express frequency to 100mhz if you have the option, set memory multi so it runs at 800 and not 960 you should in theory be able to do 3.6 or at the very least 3.4 with little other changes maybe a v small vcore bump but see how you get on with those settings



Just chill, asking for the ban hammer is a little extreme, sometimes people forget they knew as little as you once upon a time is all

And could you explain memory mhz adjustment if set to auto bios think it shoeld be 960 with the overclock? i just want to understand

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Intel spec for the vcore is up to 1.36 so if needs be you can increase it manually however if you're still getting idle temps of 60c+ then I wouldn't go there and just run it stock until you can invest in a better cooler, you said you replaced the psu, what one did you replace it with?

You need to change system memory multiplier so or ram is at 800mhz not the 960 it was at when you tried the overclock the last time

 

[Steevo]

Hi thanks for the reply, before i do that, what programs should i download for best testing, and what risks should i have in mind? if it fails will the pc turn off or give me any kind of errors or it will just fry without me knowing it? or is the first boot beep a good indication that all is fine?
the thing with the voltage is not seen in the photos but it says vcore may change accordingly so if i saved this and had an overclock next time in the bios it would be showed an aproriate voltage as i understand, so id like to keep voltage auto.

Depends on a few things, first, is your windows install the one you want to keep for good? If it is, I would suggest unplugging your hard drive and using a "Live" Operating system to test with that loads off a CD or USB, or at least a few bootable tools to make sure that if there is a problem it doesn't corrupt your windows install and files.

Next how about we fill out your system specs so us old guys don't have to try and remember.

Usually if your overclock is stable the only thing you notice is the system runs faster, when its not it can show as issues such as, BSOD, hangs, lock up, or data corruption. There are a few tools like Super Pi, Prime 95, Intel Burn in Utility, Memtest for example that you would use to determine if it is stable and no errors are encountered during processing.

Since your cooler is right on the edge of comfort doing a few things until you can get it replaced with a better cooler like opening the case and pointing a fan into it, using additional case fans to preferably pressurize your case slightly if its a closed off cube, or if its well vented pointing a fan at the board power regulation area will help.

 

[dorsetknob]

Kursah posted a guide with all/most of what you need to know
Have you read it ?
it tells/suggests what testing software to use
Please read the Guide @ https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/overclocking-is-easy-get-results.30480/

 

[Gintaras]

Intel spec for the vcore is up to 1.36 so if needs be you can increase it manually however if you're still getting idle temps of 60c+ then I wouldn't go there and just run it stock until you can invest in a better cooler, you said you replaced the psu, what one did you replace it with?

You need to change system memory multiplier so or ram is at 800mhz not the 960 it was at when you tried the overclock the last time

i replaced it with a corsair vs650 650w... what it was before doesnt even matter it was terrible i had to use adapters to have a pci 6pin cable, it didnt even had that. so no surprise it died. im just lucky it didnt damage all other components.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

i replaced it with a corsair vs650 650w... what it was before doesnt even matter it was terrible i had to use adapters to have a pci 6pin cable, it didnt even had that. so no surprise it died. im just lucky it didnt damage all other components.

If it was a cheap unknown brand psu then you'd probably be lucky if it could actually deliver 300w let alone 650w but lesson learned, that corsair unit is fine btw

 

[Gintaras]

Depends on a few things, first, is your windows install the one you want to keep for good? If it is, I would suggest unplugging your hard drive and using a "Live" Operating system to test with that loads off a CD or USB, or at least a few bootable tools to make sure that if there is a problem it doesn't corrupt your windows install and files.

Next how about we fill out your system specs so us old guys don't have to try and remember.

Usually if your overclock is stable the only thing you notice is the system runs faster, when its not it can show as issues such as, BSOD, hangs, lock up, or data corruption. There are a few tools like Super Pi, Prime 95, Intel Burn in Utility, Memtest for example that you would use to determine if it is stable and no errors are encountered during processing.

Since your cooler is right on the edge of comfort doing a few things until you can get it replaced with a better cooler like opening the case and pointing a fan into it, using additional case fans to preferably pressurize your case slightly if its a closed off cube, or if its well vented pointing a fan at the board power regulation area will help.

Hi i updated my profile with the specs, thanks for the suggestion, the hdd is of course of most importance and its the only one i got ... i do have a killer fan so i will point it at the open board when i test the overclock NdMk2o1o suggested or you can advise me aswell, more heads - better. thanks in advance.

 

[sneekypeet]

A simple query "Q9650 overclocking guide" yields over 120,000 results with at least the first 10 pages of useful info, including detailed videos and written step-by-step guides.

Sure it does. Just like when i was trying to clock 939 CPUs, I read till my eyes bled, and still came here after asking basic questions. If not for those here who helped me in my quest, I would not likely be where I am today in computers. All I am asking is that you remember that not everyone is at your level and needs a helping hand from time to time. Stop being such an elitists and try a bit of compassion from time to time. Goes a lot further than sarcasm does

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Hi i updated my profile with the specs, thanks for the suggestion, the hdd is of course of most importance and its the only one i got ... i do have a killer fan so i will point it at the open board when i test the overclock NdMk2o1o suggested or you can advise me aswell, more heads - better. thanks in advance.

Click the checkbox that says "show specs"

 

[Gintaras]

If it was a cheap unknown brand psu then you'd probably be lucky if it could actually deliver 300w let alone 650w but lesson learned, that corsair unit is fine btw

Kursah posted a guide with all/most of what you need to know
Have you read it ?
it tells/suggests what testing software to use
Please read the Guide @ https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/overclocking-is-easy-get-results.30480/

not finished with it yet, it is a huge wall of text, but i understand i need to read it and i will sorry for my incompetence, will try to improve.

Click the checkbox that says "show specs"

um i just checked and it was checked, is it still not visible?

 

[NdMk2o1o]

um i just checked and it was checked, is it still not visible?

Yes it is, my bad, am on my phone so didn't see them before

 

[dorsetknob]

sorry for my incompetence,

Not necessary
One has to learn to crawl before one walks
Take your Time if you try to hurry and do things before you understand your going to make mistakes
just remember no overclock is guaranteed
it can Damage your parts if done wrong ( its Your Choice to Risk this ).

Also Understand that Your parts Spec are not ideal for Overclocking ( hence Some peoples Frustration with this Thread).

 

[Sasqui]

Hi, this is optimized defaults.

Here is the 3.4
I enabled clock control and got a red notification to set system voltage to auto. did that.
set cpu clock ratio to 8x, fine clock to 0.5
host frequency to 400 and this is the result.

optimised defaults temperatures are 30-35C.
i must be honest , since im running low on the paste i havent reaplied it the last time i opened it. but it is covered completly ok.
Yes i have learned how to install a 775 cooler the hard way by destroying the pins on the last cooler i had before, but yes i assure you it is installed correctly with all 4pins in there perfectly.

Looks like you already got yourself there. Did you try a 9x multiplier for 3.6Ghz?

After bumping the clock speed (start at 8x / 3.4Ghz), try running a stress test for stability and temps. If temps are ok and stability is not, bump up the Vcore by +0.10, lather rinse repeat. If you get to a point where both temps and stibility are good, then climb the ladder to 9x / 3.6ghz, and do the same routine over again.

 

[Gintaras]

Not necessary
One has to learn to crawl before one walks
Take your Time if you try to hurry and do things before you understand your going to make mistakes
just remember no overclock is guaranteed
it can Damage your parts if done wrong ( its Your Choice to Risk this ).

Also Understand that Your parts Spec are not ideal for Overclocking ( hence Some peoples Frustration with this Thread).

But who to trust? there are also people saying i can do this.

Looks like you already got yourself there. Did you try a 9x multiplier for 3.6Ghz?

After bumping the clock speed (start at 8x / 3.4Ghz), try running a stress test for stability and temps. If temps are ok and stability is not, bump up the Vcore by +0.10, lather rinse repeat. If you get to a point where both temps and stibility are good, then climb the ladder to 9x / 3.6ghz, and do the same routine over again.

its at 9x as default, if i set it to 8x it goes to 2.6ghz, i need a more detailed suggestion, host frequency aswell, etc, voltage is automatically controlled on this bios, i can set it manually but im getting red flags so ill stick with auto as bios suggests i will try NdMk2o1o suggestion, but i am not ready yet to do it and not really sure whether or not i should do it all since half the people on this thread dont think so.

 

[sneekypeet]

@Gintaras please learn to use the multi-quote feature or edit previous posts with more comments. Multiple posting is frowned upon.

 

[Sasqui]

its at 9x as default, if i set it to 8x it goes to 2.6ghz, i need a more detailed suggestion, host frequency aswell, etc, voltage is automatically controlled on this bios, i can set it manually but im getting red flags so ill stick with auto as bios suggests i will try NdMk2o1o suggestion, but i am not ready yet to do it and not really sure whether or not i should do it all since half the people on this thread dont think so.

Your BIOS screen shows 3.4 (at 8.5x). If you are seeing 2.6Ghz in windows, it's probably because of the turbo function, you're seeing the clocks under no-load. Have you tried CPUz (shows the current speed and multi)... and Prime95 (stress test)? RealTemp (monitor temps)?

CPUz: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Prime95: http://www.mersenne.org/download/
RealTemp: https://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

 

[Gintaras]

Your BIOS screen shows 3.4 (at 8.5x). If you are seeing 2.6Ghz in windows, it's probably because of the turbo function, you're seeing the clocks under no-load. Have you tried CPUz (shows the current speed and multi)... and Prime95 (stress test)? RealTemp (monitor temps)?

CPUz: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Prime95: http://www.mersenne.org/download/
RealTemp: https://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

im using CPUID's CPU-Z and HWMonitor and just downloaded Prime95.
In the bios i haven't saved and loaded the overclock, i just checked the changes the bios shows according to your suggestion and loaded the defaults again i did not apply the overclock and loaded windows and frankly im afraid to do this for the same reason mentions above.

i have reached 3.4 by picking a 400 number for frequency and fine clock to 0.5 ( i dont know what im doing, so i was putting different numbers until i got the 3.4 Ghz result.

 

[Gintaras]

@Gintaras please learn to use the multi-quote feature or edit previous posts with more comments. Multiple posting is frowned upon.

Please be patient with me, im sure i dont know how to do it, but looking at a thread my quoting doesn't seem to be different from the rest of the people here, could you inform me a little better what it is exactly im doing wrong? thanks.

 

[dorsetknob]

But who to trust? there are also people saying i can do this.

That is a Question that's hard to answer!

Over Time and reading many threads ( over many subjects ) you will be able to Gauge your own level of trust with many Posters here.

Many Give GOOD VALUABLE ADVICE ( and often their advice/suggestions are valadated by others )
some just regurgitate the advice of others ( Can Be usefull confirmation )
Others just give no information of use ( you ignore Them where possible)

edit
Double or more posting is where you reply several times in sequence without other posts inbetween
these are the times you use the post edit button/link at bottom left of your posts
your see these links use them



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