Intel Core i7-7700K Delidded, Reapplied TIM Reduces Temps By 30C

[FireFox]

I agree. I should have waited and ordered some liquid metal. This light weight grease (MX-4) is worse than the stock TIM.

Results:

Ambient 18.3C Same

Idle: 28C Same

AIDA64: 62C worse by +10C

3DMark11 Physics: 82C worse by +7C

I'm not even going to risk running the other two tests.

Conclusion: It's possible that the MX-4 needed some burn-in time. Next time will be a liquid metal test. Intel stock bubble gum TIM certainly doesn't look bad though, so I'd say this is not worth the effort and risk. I did this for fun, and in the name of science and breaking stuff. I do not regret my testing thus far.

I would have preferred to do a naked delid, but my cooler would not make contact with the CPU die when I tried it, even after removing additional locking mechanisms from motherboard, so blah...

When you apply for example Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra then you will see temp drop.

 

[yotano211]

Cuz I'm old school and I learned how to overclock before Black Editions and K series SKUs

Oh really, yea I am Asian with a 10inch 3rd leg.

 

[damric]

Oh really, yea I am Asian with a 10inch 3rd leg.

That's great now take it out of your mouth and go overclock something.

 

[phanbuey]

When you apply for example Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra then you will see temp drop.

+1

Dont use anything but... i used GC extreme and it dried out in like a week. And my prolimatech PK-3 was worse than stock.... the liquid ultra was a decent 6C drop between the IHS and core, and am using thermal grizzly kryonaut on the block.

might go for another rad in the loop to get a zen chip in there.

 

[yotano211]

That's great now take it out of your mouth and go overclock something.

I will has some has this laptop company releases the unlocked bios for the 7700k.

 

[peche]

I agree. I should have waited and ordered some liquid metal. This light weight grease (MX-4) is worse than the stock TIM.

Results:

Ambient 18.3C Same

Idle: 28C Same

AIDA64: 62C worse by +10C

3DMark11 Physics: 82C worse by +7C

I'm not even going to risk running the other two tests.

Conclusion: It's possible that the MX-4 needed some burn-in time. Next time will be a liquid metal test. Intel stock bubble gum TIM certainly doesn't look bad though, so I'd say this is not worth the effort and risk. I did this for fun, and in the name of science and breaking stuff. I do not regret my testing thus far.

I would have preferred to do a naked delid, but my cooler would not make contact with the CPU die when I tried it, even after removing additional locking mechanisms from motherboard, so blah...

its weird to see a delidded processor that is showing worse temps, well certainly i have never have seen a delidded i3, but yes liquid metal its the better one fot this task,
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Also, Arctic claims to nave no bed in time or burning time like the well know arctic silver 5 that has a 200Hours burning time, but its great to give some cycles, maybe it gets better or improve temps,

+1

Dont use anything but... i used GC extreme and it dried out in like a week. And my prolimatech PK-3 was worse than stock.... the liquid ultra was a decent 6C drop between the IHS and core, and am using thermal grizzly kryonaut on the block.

might go for another rad in the loop to get a zen chip in there.

i got a quite interesting Drop on my ivy, you might have done something wrong or sat the processor and screw the thin liquid metal layer on cpu die when sitting it on the retention cage,

I will has some has this laptop company releases the unlocked bios for the 7700k.

take in consideration that liquid metal corrodes aluminium and some nickel plates, so if your device cooler isnt cooper bassed or any other metal you might be away from use it, for laptops Arctic MX4, Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut and Gelid Extreme are well know alternatives for better temps, i did a Repaste on my cousin's Gaming laptop, an MSI that had like a 1 year of several abuse, we did a ultra deep clean and the results after Repaste were amazing, temp drop on idle of 8C, now iddles @ 33C and the max load got a incredible 18C drop, now max temp its 61, also max temp on the GTX 960m chip its 7c, a 9C drop on a great cooled laptop using Arctic Mx4

Regards,

 

[phanbuey]

^ I was saying that I only got a drop with liquid metal, vs the silicone pastes.

 

[peche]

^ I was saying that I only got a drop with liquid metal, vs the silicone pastes.

dont take it personal its just a comment or reference, i do know the situation you were, also if your were close me i'll provide some for your Delid !

 

[yotano211]

its weird to see a delidded processor that is showing worse temps, well certainly i have never have seen a delidded i3, but yes liquid metal its the better one fot this task,
9
Also, Arctic claims to nave no bed in time or burning time like the well know arctic silver 5 that has a 200Hours burning time, but its great to give some cycles, maybe it gets better or improve temps,





i got a quite interesting Drop on my ivy, you might have done something wrong or sat the processor and screw the thin liquid metal layer on cpu die when sitting it on the retention cage,



take in consideration that liquid metal corrodes aluminium and some nickel plates, so if your device cooler isnt cooper bassed or any other metal you might be away from use it, for laptops Arctic MX4, Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut and Gelid Extreme are well know alternatives for better temps, i did a Repaste on my cousin's Gaming laptop, an MSI that had like a 1 year of several abuse, we did a ultra deep clean and the results after Repaste were amazing, temp drop on idle of 8C, now iddles @ 33C and the max load got a incredible 18C drop, now max temp its 61, also max temp on the GTX 960m chip its 7c, a 9C drop on a great cooled laptop using Arctic Mx4

Regards,

I only put CLU on the die when I delid it. I have lots of experience with CLU. The delid tool comes today so I'm happy about it.

 

[peche]

The delid tool comes today so I'm happy about it.

no honor using delid tool

Spoiler: Delid tool....

 

[nomdeplume]

Wear pants and take the utmost care not to pull an R-T-B with that hogleg you're so happy to tell us about.

 

[yotano211]

no honor using delid tool

Spoiler: Delid tool....

No honor in having a bent processor, fuc honor.

 

[peche]

No honor in having a bent processor, fuc honor.

made my day! lol

 

[damric]

Update: it appears as though my temps are normalizing back to at least what they were before I changed the TIM under the lid. I'll run the same stress tests again in a couple days to verify. I guess it is possible that the MX-4 needed a little burn-in time.

 

[EarthDog]

MX-4 has zero burn in time.

 

[damric]

MX-4 has zero burn in time.

Yes but it may have spread out, settled, or otherwise migrated somewhat. You know what I mean.

 

[EarthDog]

I now know what you mean, yes.

 

[Kanan]

Update: it appears as though my temps are normalizing back to at least what they were before I changed the TIM under the lid. I'll run the same stress tests again in a couple days to verify. I guess it is possible that the MX-4 needed a little burn-in time.

Simply use a better TIM if you want it to be better than before. MX-4 isn't really good enough. I thought you want progress and not the same temperatures than before.

 

[thesmokingman]

Update: it appears as though my temps are normalizing back to at least what they were before I changed the TIM under the lid. I'll run the same stress tests again in a couple days to verify. I guess it is possible that the MX-4 needed a little burn-in time.

Did you glue or re-seal the IHS back on or are you free balling it?

 

[damric]

Did you glue or re-seal the IHS back on or are you free balling it?

Free balling for sure. Will make that much easier when I get my liquid metal.

 

[damric]

Simply use a better TIM if you want it to be better than before. MX-4 isn't really good enough. I thought you want progress and not the same temperatures than before.

Sorry it's what I had in stock at the moment. I explained that.

 

[Kanan]

Sorry it's what I had in stock at the moment. I explained that.

Np. I'm curious to see the results when you got the metallic TIM.

 

[thesmokingman]

Free balling for sure. Will make that much easier when I get my liquid metal.

Ah as I thought. Free balling means the IHS will move soon as pressure is applied as with the socket lever.

 

[FireFox]

I didn't want delid my 7700K but i am too curious to see how many degrees it will drop that's why i will delid it.

I have ordered Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra and Grizzly Kryonaut.

Before i delid it i will do test the CPU stock and OC'ed and after delid i will do the same test.

 

[damric]

I didn't want delid my 7700K but i am too curious to see how many degrees it will drop that's why i will delid it.

I have ordered Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra and Grizzly Kryonaut.

Before i delid it i will do test the CPU stock and OC'ed and after delid i will do the same test.

It wasn't too difficult. I was more scared of bending those tiny assed pins in the motherboard socket while removing/installing because they look so fragile compared to AMD CPU pins which I have bent plenty ooops.