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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition 11 GB

Do we have anybody who wants to bet Navi and Ryzen pair up as well as a 1080Ti?

Also check out that better overall performance from Ryzen VS a 7700 that someone said would never be as fast.... It's fast where it counts apparently.
Talking about an architecture that's not coming out until 2019? Wow, that's desperate even for an crystal ball-owning AMD fanboy. Guess you've already lost hope for Vega?
But you're right about one thing: you're appropriately comparing what will be a new AMD product to what will then be two year old Nvidia tech.

Man, this thing is a monster. I thought it would be Titan level, but still, blazingly fast.
What do you mean? It IS faster than the Titan. Didn't you read the review- or at least look at the benchmarks??

Screw that, add a waterblock on a FE model and you have better performance. I don't see the AIB's clocking higher under air than a standard FE on water. I expect a £100-£200 premium for MSI's Gaming Z nonsense (basically, some more PCB glitter and an overpriced, if effective cooler).
Well obviously you're not familiar with AIB models from the past. They often have faster-than-reference designs with better air coolers and beefier power stages for better overclocking. Put a water cooler on an AIB and watch it go even higher. As for the "premium" cost, my last Gigabyte model was a factory OC'd version with their phenomenal Windforce 3X for the same price as the vanilla model.
 
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Talking about an architecture that's not coming out until 2019? Wow, that's desperate even for an crystal ball-owning AMD fanboy. Guess you've already lost hope for Vega?
But you're right about one thing: you're appropriately comparing what will be a new AMD product to what will then be two year old Nvidia tech.
I'm expecting Vega to be somewhere around 1080 performance, and I meant that Navi should be comparable to the "new 1080Ti" whatever it is at the time.
Vega is going to be what Fury was, a design suffering from the lack of node advancement and AMD is putting more resources into custom chips it seems, no crystal ball or animal sacrifices needed to see that.
 
I was expecting a 9.9 or 10.0 review score :D

For me, the 1080 Ti FE seems like the perfect card, the cons in the article are nowhere near cons territory for me:
  • "Noisy in gaming": Should be still inaudible when in the case and I have headphones or speakers on. The blower design is a bigger pro for me - it expels hot air out of the case. +++
  • "Fans don't turn off in idle": It is still one of the quietest cards with I assume very low rpm - better stay cool.
  • "Costly": It is much cheaper than expected.
  • "Cooler runs into temperature limit": That is by design - 84 oC load temperature has been the norm recently (same for RX 480).

I wish I had a 1080 Ti over 1070 SLI, but I've been enjoying them for ~6 months now, so shouldn't really complain :)
"The blower design is a bigger pro for me - it expels hot air out of the case. +++"

What good is this if it can't keep the card cool enough to prevent throttling and therefore limits overclocking? I'd rather have my card run cooler, and have the rest of the components in my case exposed to somewhat higher temps; the system won't throttle because your SSD or PSU are experiencing a little warmer ambient temps than normal. Anyone looking at a card of this caliber hopefully is putting it in an appropriately cooled case anyway. I've been running two 670's SLI in my rig and they expel air into the case- never had an issue with heat and the cards never go over 72° C.
 
Doesnt matter for people wearing headphones. And that is just the FE card that is noisy. Non reference cards probably wont be that way. So does it really matter?

@W1zzard No WoW benchmark? Or 3440x1440p tests?

Who the f**k buys a $700 graphics card based on its performance in World of Warcraft? Like most Blizzard games, that one can run on a f**king toaster.
 
finally great 1440p GPU. nice.
 
Who the f**k buys a $700 graphics card based on its performance in World of Warcraft? Like most Blizzard games, that one can run on a f**king toaster.

not on ultra settings. in wow you can do even in-game DSR for AA.
 
Too lazy to create a 1080Ti thread, so posting it here, if W1z doesn't mind.

Video review with hybrid cooling in German with subtitles for you... ;)

Conclusion, it benefits from better cooling, but that is 100 coins more... So looking forward to the custom designs and hoping their prices stay nice "and cool" 8-)
 
@Assimilator chill. You don't need profane words here. Very unlikely to see a 3440x1440 bench for WoW. Game engine is too dated to even bench the game. Probably yield over 200fps at Very High settings with frame syncing techniques disabled.
 
I mean... I am schocked... why nvidia released something that made its own 1200$ product completely obsolete? do they know something about Vega something scary (for nvidia)? any how -1 GPU and 4K gaming at 60 fps finally is doable
I reckon if we go by their history then yes, AMD may have something killer on the way.
 
@Assimilator chill. You don't need profane words here. Very unlikely to see a 3440x1440 bench for WoW. Game engine is too dated to even bench the game. Probably yield over 200fps at Very High settings with frame syncing techniques disabled.

Profanity is a normal part of how I communicate; especially in text format, I find it conveys emotion more simply and effectively than emoticons or emojis or whatever they're called. Plus I have a tendency to get long-winded, so it's a way for me to be brief.

And hey, this is the internet. Good luck avoiding profanity. ;)
 
Well obviously you're not familiar with AIB models from the past. They often have faster-than-reference designs with better air coolers and beefier power stages for better overclocking. Put a water cooler on an AIB and watch it go even higher. As for the "premium" cost, my last Gigabyte model was a factory OC'd version with their phenomenal Windforce 3X for the same price as the vanilla model.

Oh, I am quite familiar with AIB models. You should read my system spec. But just so you can understand why I made my point about water cooling an FE and ignoring AIB's...

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As for price, before the 1080ti PR event when the 1080 price drops were announced, the FE was £620, give or take and the faster AIB's were upwards of £800. Except for Palits awesome Gamerock which was cheaper. Very few cards clock higher than any other - if you think they do - you don't know modern day Nvidia power limits.
 
Did not expect the 7700K to start being bottlenecked already. I knew it was coming eventually, but already? 1 game only, for now, but that should increase with time. This is why more cores are definitely a plus, regardless of them being Intel or AMD.




I'm wondering if there were a few drops to those values or if it ran around those (minimum FPS) on a constant basis, as in, whenever it dropped in FPS, it dropped to around those: it's 2 completely different scenarios and would paint a different picture, depending on which of them was the case.
It makes me wonder if it's a chipset/memory controller issue. When kaby lake came out, it was shown that skylake worked way better on the z270 chipset then the 170, at least in benchmarks. Perhaps intel dropped the ball on the 270 as well?
 
"The blower design is a bigger pro for me - it expels hot air out of the case. +++"

What good is this if it can't keep the card cool enough to prevent throttling and therefore limits overclocking? I'd rather have my card run cooler, and have the rest of the components in my case exposed to somewhat higher temps; the system won't throttle because your SSD or PSU are experiencing a little warmer ambient temps than normal. Anyone looking at a card of this caliber hopefully is putting it in an appropriately cooled case anyway. I've been running two 670's SLI in my rig and they expel air into the case- never had an issue with heat and the cards never go over 72° C.
It depends. The stock 680 hit 80+C on the stock cooler according to reviews, but my friend gave me a 770 with the stock cooler to test, and it managed to stay at 75c. Add a custom fan curve, and the card was able to stay at 60c without case fans.

These stock coolers do great, but the fan curves need tweaked. I dont mind a bit more sound for a superior cooler. Add a thermal paste change, and these things are chillingly effective LOL
 
Who the f**k buys a $700 graphics card based on its performance in World of Warcraft? Like most Blizzard games, that one can run on a f**king toaster.
You havent played wow in a while, have you? So how about you check your "fucking" attitude at the door? Hrm?
 
You havent played wow in a while, have you? So how about you check your "fucking" attitude at the door? Hrm?

1. at least put some @@ in your hard language, or, just like @Tsukiyomi91 already said "chill out guys".
2. I don't understand why you asked for WoW benchmarking at this specific time. I made a little research at older reviews, and i noticed that WoW has been out of benchmarks for several months now (*from July 19th if i'm not mistaken)
3. Check the GTX1080 FE review ( https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/23.html ). It runs WoW with average of 122.2 fps@4K !!!!. So if a GPU which is 30% slower than the Ti version can run WoW at 122.2 fps@4K, i really don't understand why you are so anxious for seeing the Ti's results !!! (*they will be around +30% up , logically speaking ;) )
 
You havent played wow in a while, have you? So how about you check your "fucking" attitude at the door? Hrm?

A single 970 does over 60FPS@4K, a 1060 managed over 75FPS. Yeah, I'd say the statement that WoW can be played on a potato is accurate. There is really no point in benchmarking WoW on anything modern at this point.

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I think I changed some things around for that benchmark 2 or 3 rebenches ago. Like test scene/duration etc.

did you use different drivers as well?
 
did you use different drivers as well?

Isn't this information on the specs used part of each of the reviews? Dunno about game scenes but drivers used should definitely be there, no?
 
Well...Its a great value ill give it that. I was hoping there would be a bit more power to give it and the overclocks would improve but that does not seem to be the case.

Fun how it matches though, maybe I still will trade out just for the money difference.
 
Well...Its a great value ill give it that.
It's a bloody fast card, but a great value only when compared to the Titan. Which is what the Titan's job is... makeing all other cards seem like great value.
 
I mean... I am schocked... why nvidia released something that made its own 1200$ product completely obsolete? do they know something about Vega something scary (for nvidia)? any how -1 GPU and 4K gaming at 60 fps finally is doable

Most likely something like this.

Eventually making certain chips is easier and can be produced in bigger batches = its cheaper. Also market is saturated rather fast with 1200 USD products (usually people which buy such thing buy it new and thats it). So it makes sense to produce something nearly as good at lower price point, so you can get some % of lower segment of market and introduce it a bit later.

They are using same tactic for probably over decade now (since GeForce 2 I think :D).
 
I understand the number but 11GB.... ELEVEN!!... That is Pi x 970's RAM amount... Somethings fishy here!!!
 
The overall performance data suggests that, at best, the 1080 Ti is 26% faster than the 1080 and only at 4k res. I'm curious to know where the 35% increase over the 1080 is reflected.
 
The overall performance data suggests that, at best, the 1080 Ti is 26% faster than the 1080 and only at 4k res. I'm curious to know where the 35% increase over the 1080 is reflected.

Yet another gamer with terrible math skills. One that doesn't bother reading the forum to boot.
You need to look at the increase FROM the 1080, not the decrease TO the 1080. These are NOT the same values. Simply replace 74% and 100% with an absolute value. 26/74= 35% INCREASE.

Furthetmore, 4k res is the best indicator since it is least likely to hit a cpu bottleneck. So, if there us a 35% increase at 4k, THE CARD IS 35% FASTER.
 
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