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AMD Ryzen Discussion Thread.

I believe they have removed the offset in the more recent versions
What's up with the whole 20 degree offset anyway? Are ryzen processors monitors off by 20c.
 
I honestly have no idea why AMD implemented it in the first place, it didn't make sense to me.
 
It never made sense, but yes, 1700X and 1800X have a +20C offset. In other words, to get your real temp from a program that doesn't recognize this, you subtract 20C.

Ryzen Master recognizes this and will always show the right temp.

AMD's reason for that whole offset was astoundingly stupid:

"To maintain a consistent fan profile"

I mean really? I love AMD, but that was just dumb.
 
I'll give Ryzen Master a try. Been using HWinfo64but wondering if reporting right since temps do seem extremely high.
 
I'll give Ryzen Master a try. Been using HWinfo64but wondering if reporting right since temps do seem extremely high.
on HWiNFO you should look at the Tdie instead of Tctl
Tdie = no offset
Tctl = Tdie+Tctl_offset
but you might have different Tctl_offset as mobo vendors might apply different /custom MI_Skew settings on their UEFI
 
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on HWiNFO you should look at the Tdie instead of Tctl
Tdie = no offset
Tctl = Tdie+Tctl_offset
but you might have different Tctl_offset as mobo vendors might apply different /custom MI_Skew settings on their UEFI
This is what I have. Tdie and Tctl are together?
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I'll give Ryzen Master a try. Been using HWinfo64but wondering if reporting right since temps do seem extremely high.

Piece of advice. Ryzen master comes with a big bad "overclocking is evil" warning on every startup. The irony is, it's more useful as a monitoring utility than a OCing one IMO. As long as you don't create an OC "profile" it won't change anything.

I'm an AIDA64 user, and I found the latest beta reports temps right, so I switched to that.
 
so should i give back my memory and swith to another one like hyperx savge or hyperx predator 3000mhx kit?

and thats the diff bettween predator and savge?
 
o_O

so should i give back my memory and swith to another one like hyperx savge or hyperx predator 3000mhx kit?

and thats the diff bettween predator and savge?

Go to their site by using google, figure it out.
 
so should i give back my memory and swith to another one like hyperx savge or hyperx predator 3000mhx kit?

and thats the diff bettween predator and savge?

One probably has different timings than the other, I am betting.
 
This is what I have. Tdie and Tctl are together?
capture007.jpg

yeah, that would be the case if you use non X ryzen, as of now only 1800X, 1700X, 1600X have the offset, no offset for other ryzens so Tdie = Tctl

temp is too high, IMHO. I would re-apply thermal paste and re-seat the HSF if I were you :eek:

edit: what's the ambient temp there? I got around 60-ish deg Celcius in a 27 deg-ambient room with 1600 and 1400, granted I use stock FX coolers (the one with heatpipes)
 
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I just had an extremely fun day (and night) of gaming on the Raisin now it's got it's shiney new 1080Ti (CPU @ 4.1, RAM @ 3200 C14). I was blown away by the smoothness of Witcher 3, Fallout 4 took some tweaking to get it to spread the load across the cores a bit better, but that runs very well now too, Assassins creed syndicate looked stunning when I was watching sister play (not my type of game tbh). Project cars was silky smooth. I couldn't be happier!
It's running on a 165hz 1440p g-sync monitor, I think it broke me, any time I see things on a 60hz monitor/tv now I notice it lol. I need to get the Vive installed and have a go with that.

I'm gonna put this out there, and anybody can feel free to quote me: Anybody who says Ryzen "sucks" for gaming is flat out lying!

Edit: to elaborate - I'm not saying it's better than it's competitors, just that it does a great job in games and doesn't deserve the bad rep from early on. If you will be taking advantage of the raw power and not just purely gaming on it, I'd wholeheartedly recommend this cpu!


temp is too high, IMHO. I would re-apply thermal paste and re-seat the HSF if I were you :eek:

He's on the stock AMD cooler and that looks like 100% load. I agree though it is very hot, especially for such low voltage. Aftermarket cooler needed asap @Chicken Patty ! :p
 
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ook some tweaking to get it to spread the load across the cores a bit better,
This is by far the most interesting part of what you said.
Please explain with details what kinda of tweaking was involved.
Thank you
 
Don't take this as a guide or anything, this was just the result of an evening googling and trying stuff, the game still runs like crud in comparison to Witcher3, but it's a lot better than it was. My 6700k rig suffers the same kinda thing, if anything compounded by running SLI.

Fo4 isn't very well coded, it puts far too much load on the first thread so any time you're in a city or very built up area the FPS will plummet, GPU Utilization will be less than 50%, I saw 30% a few times while thread 1 was ~70-100%, the rest of the threads weren't doing a lot. So I used the 'Fallout 4 Configuration Tool - By Bilago' to change the # of threads from 4 to 16, and then you need to open the console and type tMta ON, there were a couple of others recommended but they seem to be permanently stuck on OFF. Link to "How to enable Multithreading options" on steam forum.

After that it seemed to be spreading the load out more, all threads are actively doing stuff now. FPS still drops in certain areas but not to ~30fps but more like >55fps min. When gpu is at 99% util, it's usually 100-120fps, 1440p all settings maxed. (actually it's worth pointing out that this is with a few mods to make the wasteland look overgrown and vibrant, so my fps will be a lot worse than with unmodified game)
 
FPS still drops in certain areas but not to ~30fps but more like >55fps min.
On a 1080Ti ??! What!

Anyways, we will not turn this into a gaming related topic. Ryzen,is impressing from a smoothness point of view. More testing and googling is required
So far,so good. I have my eye on the 1700x
 
Don't take this as a guide or anything, this was just the result of an evening googling and trying stuff, the game still runs like crud in comparison to Witcher3, but it's a lot better than it was. My 6700k rig suffers the same kinda thing, if anything compounded by running SLI.

Fo4 isn't very well coded, it puts far too much load on the first thread so any time you're in a city or very built up area the FPS will plummet, GPU Utilization will be less than 50%, I saw 30% a few times while thread 1 was ~70-100%, the rest of the threads weren't doing a lot. So I used the 'Fallout 4 Configuration Tool - By Bilago' to change the # of threads from 4 to 16, and then you need to open the console and type tMta ON, there were a couple of others recommended but they seem to be permanently stuck on OFF. Link to "How to enable Multithreading options" on steam forum.

After that it seemed to be spreading the load out more, all threads are actively doing stuff now. FPS still drops in certain areas but not to ~30fps but more like >55fps min. When gpu is at 99% util, it's usually 100-120fps, 1440p all settings maxed. (actually it's worth pointing out that this is with a few mods to make the wasteland look overgrown and vibrant, so my fps will be a lot worse than with unmodified game)

How did you get it to do that? FO4 is the only game that still sucks on ryzen for me... everything is smooth @4.0 w 3200Mhz C14...
 
Yeah it's just coded really badly :wtf: it runs beautifully in most settlements and the wasteland, but just watch thread 1 and gpu utilization when you go into a densely packed city or something. I think you can change the thread count in one of the .ini files, but it's easier just to use Bilago's Configuration tool. The annoying bit is you have to enter the tMta ON command every time you open the game, I don't think it stays set. (should say "Multi-Threaded Accumulation is ON", if it says off just repeat the command. For me to get in console is the @ on the uk keyboard, but ` or ~ might work.

Other than Fo4 everything else seems to run like a dream on Ryzen!

FPS still drops in certain areas but not to ~30fps but more like >55fps min.
On a 1080Ti ??! What!
Anyways, we will not turn this into a gaming related topic. Ryzen,is impressing from a smoothness point of view. More testing and googling is required
So far,so good. I have my eye on the 1700x
It's not the Ti's fault, the CPU just can't feed it instructions quick enough because the game is trying to do too much on thread 1 and is effectively creating a CPU bottleneck with bad coding.
Good luck with your decision, I don't think you'd regret buying an R7 but maybe a higher clocked R5 1600x would be better if it's just games you want to run?

So far, no. I haven't wasted too much time fiddling with it yet, but the D.O.C.P. doesn't want to play at all at 3200MHz, 3066MHz is rock stable.

Is that with the SoC voltage bumped up a bit? I've got some non-samsung sticks I was going to have a play with, they would only run at 2666 before so it'll be interesting to see how they work with the 1.0.0.6 agesa code.
 
Is that with the SoC voltage bumped up a bit? I've got some non-samsung sticks I was going to have a play with, they would only run at 2666 before so it'll be interesting to see how they work with the 1.0.0.6 agesa code.

No need at 3066MHz, but even bumping it doesn't help me get to 3200MHz :(
 
Anybody who says Ryzen "sucks" for gaming is flat out lying!
It may not suck for you since you're at 1440p where the bottleneck is in the GPU's court but for those of us who are still gaming at 1080p that's where Ryzen just isn't good enough. Many of us are still playing at 1080p and have no plans to go higher than that. Especially when a good 1440p monitor is damn near half the cost of building the system itself. A good 1440p monitor will cost around $500 USD.
 
It may not suck for you since you're at 1440p where the bottleneck is in the GPU's court but for those of us who are still gaming at 1080p that's where Ryzen just isn't good enough. Many of us are still playing at 1080p and have no plans to go higher than that. Especially when a good 1440p monitor is damn near half the cost of building the system itself. A good 1440p monitor will cost around $500 USD.

You mean like the $280 Dell U2515H? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M0LDXTL/?tag=tec06d-20
So sure, it's "only" 60Hz and not really a "gaming" screen, but it's a damn good screen for the money.

Or how about an Acer for $200? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N1J0B3Q/?tag=tec06d-20

Or a 27" 75Hz Asus for $313? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EN3Z7QQ/?tag=tec06d-20

I simply don't understand people that are happy with 1080p screens. Sure, they're fine for gaming and watching movies, but from a productivity standpoint they suck. In as much as my 4K AOC screen was crap, I do miss the higher resolution. Also, with Windows 10, things scale so much better at higher resolution than with previous Windows versions.

Honestly, I can't see any real world difference in gaming performance between my "borrowed" 6700K and my Ryzen 1700, but I guess I'm not a professional gamer either so...
 
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I would consider that to be a low-end 1440p monitor, barely worth getting because of the 60Hz limitation. If I were to go 1440p I would get at least 120 Hz. Go big or go home.
 
I'd have to see a run of fresh benchmarks to put forward an opinion about 1080p gaming, to be honest I'm highly doubtful that there's a large gap in fps compared to a 7700k now that drivers, patches, agesa codes etc have been done. The platform has matured but unfortunately lingering views from the early days are still getting repeated. The problem with low res on badly coded games is it exaggerates how "poorly" the CPU is performing, based only on the fact the game isn't spreading out the load across all threads, like nearly all AAA titles do these days.

Edit: and I have to comment on how silky smooth games run, no occasional stuttering like I used to get on my 6700k setup.
 
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