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Red Dead Redemption 1 on PC?

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Sandi1987

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What do you think? Can we play Red Dead Redemption 1 on PC with Sony PS3 Emulator someday with 30 FPS and Intel Core i5 CPU?
 
Who knows, all we know is that with todays hardware it runs like crap and tomorrow Sony may start thinking differently about emulation... As in life, there are no guarantees except that you'll die someday.

Jokes aside, RPCS3 is still being worked on and PCSX2 nowadays runs on a toaster. So yeah, probably, eventually it'll work out. But you can also just pick up a cheap PS3 somewhere and make life easy
 
I have Sony PS3 Slim with broken Bluetooth. Should i play with USB cable or pay 60 EUR for repair? I really wanna play Red Dead Redemption again and other exclusives for Sony PS3. I have Sony PS4 and Xbox One too but i like Sony PS3 more because better games.
 
PS3 hardly has better games than PS4. Sony just keeps releasing good exclusives.
All the good PS3 exclusives have pretty much been remastered for PS4 and has 60 fps option / better graphics - textures / sound etc...

I recently played Shadow of the Colossus on PS4 Pro and 65 inch 4K UHD OLED TV. Best remaster ever. On my old PS3 it looks and runs like crap.

Rockstar should have released RDR1 for current gen and maybe even PC, to create hype for the 2nd game. But they didn't.

Maybe it was too much work, because original game was not made for x86 arch. I don't think it will happen ever.
 
AsRock said:
It should happen, how ever it be some time after but cannot see why it would be as long as GTAV which was around 18 months, being as the PS4 and XBox are pretty much a PC i would think it be much sooner.

Gotta milk the cow 1st though.
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Unfortunately there are still some major differences between the 2. XB1 at this point is pretty much a PC it even runs windows 10. The ps4 is a similar story, however it has some cool things about it too. First off, whatever os the ps4 is based on runs off of modified freebsd, meaning it shares a lot of vulnerabilities with it, such that people have loaded Linux onto them through exploits in the web browser. The ps4 also has specific drivers for its graphics chip in such distros as well, and actually runs pcsx2 pretty well. That said there are also some pretty damn cool differences about it, though some are pretty stupid. First off the internal hdd goes from sata to usb into the southbridge, and the only sata device is the bd drive. Next up and arguably coolest, the ps4's southbridge is actually an arm processor connected to the CPU via pcie 4x, and would be what I would want most to become prevalent on PC's (unfortunately this may fall into the management engine crap where you can't see what it's doing and hackers can wreck shop with it)


As for emulators, it's probably always at least worth trying to get it to run, however because the ps3 has a different architecture than a pc, there's always likely to be tremendous overhead. If you don't want to set it up, just buy read dead on ps3 (legally you should also own it before downloading a rom for it), get a long cable/wired controller, and call it a day. It's not worth spending 60$ replacing a Bluetooth adapter when you can probably find the console around the same price.
EDIT: you will probably want to dump all of your games yourself, which requires either a supported bd drive or a cfw ps3, as getting games online is not legal, and is probably a minefield.
 
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therealmeep said:
Unfortunately there are still some major differences between the 2. XB1 at this point is pretty much a PC it even runs windows 10. The ps4 is a similar story, however it has some cool things about it too. First off, whatever os the ps4 is based on runs off of modified freebsd, meaning it shares a lot of vulnerabilities with it, such that people have loaded Linux onto them through exploits in the web browser. The ps4 also has specific drivers for its graphics chip in such distros as well, and actually runs pcsx2 pretty well. That said there are also some pretty damn cool differences about it, though some are pretty stupid. First off the internal hdd goes from sata to usb into the southbridge, and the only sata device is the bd drive. Next up and arguably coolest, the ps4's southbridge is actually an arm processor connected to the CPU via pcie 4x, and would be what I would want most to become prevalent on PC's (unfortunately this may fall into the management engine crap where you can't see what it's doing and hackers can wreck shop with it)


As for emulators, it's probably always at least worth trying to get it to run, however because the ps3 has a different architecture than a pc, there's always likely to be tremendous overhead. If you don't want to set it up, just buy read dead on ps3 (legally you should also own it before downloading a rom for it), get a long cable/wired controller, and call it a day. It's not worth spending 60$ replacing a Bluetooth adapter when you can probably find the console around the same price.
EDIT: you will probably want to dump all of your games yourself, which requires either a supported bd drive or a cfw ps3, as getting games online is not legal, and is probably a minefield.
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But it's no were near as bad as it was for GTA5, and if they can get it done for that this should be much easier.
 
Probably true, however a delayed release with pc having mod support would mean people buying 2 copies = ~1.3x profit assuming 60% percent of customers buying on console have PCs and 50% of them buy it for the mods. Thats what I did with GTA at least. Keep in mind the reason that gta 5 still makes money is that rockstar keeps pumping expensive (in in game money) ass DLC that's free because people go out and spend money on shart cards to stay relevant in online, because the money they would make from selling that dlc is made on selling in game currency instead. Rockstar really only cares about money not people.
 
Like i said

Gotta milk the cow 1st though.
 
What used to make the PS3 a painful platform to program on ironically makes it fairly feasible today to emulate. PS3's CPU is very similar to a vector processor which can be easily accelerated with today's hardware.

I think we will be quite surprised how soon PS3 emulation will be of practical use.
 
I think GTA4 was one of the worst AAA games in modern history, and GTA5 was thoroughly average and I thought Sleeping Dogs and even Watch Dogs 1 were better developed games with so much more character.

However, clearly RDR would have sold very well on PC. I still cannot figure out why they didn't port it to PC. Clearly there are well over a million PC gamers who will lap up anything Rockstar regardless of how mediocre it is.
 
Nope
absolutely no way, rpcs3 is not even capable of running that game on 16 core gtx 1080 rigs there is no way your machine will run it not now not ever
ps3 emulation needs lots of threads and lots of ram, and a fast ssd doesn't hurt either
 
pc and a ps4 controller
 
What about games? Do i need to buy it?

OneMoar said:
Nope
absolutely no way, rpcs3 is not even capable of running that game on 16 core gtx 1080 rigs there is no way your machine will run it not now not ever
ps3 emulation needs lots of threads and lots of ram, and a fast ssd doesn't hurt either
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Because emulator isn't optimized yet.
 
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Sandi1987 said:
What about games? Do i need to buy it?



Because emulator isn't optimized yet.
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it won't ever be optimised to run on a quad core end of discussion
 
Yeah I don't see that happening with the Rage engine. Can the game currently run at all with RPCS3?
 
RDR runs at about 10-15 fps currently on something like a 7700K. The biggest problems are the graphical glitches and artifacts it will eventually run fast enough.
 
its more about SPU emulation needing as many threads as you can throw at it
emulating cell is a thread intensive job the cell chip was designed to be massively parallel
12 to 16 threads seems to be about the sweet spot for getting 1:1 emulation (note this does not mean 1:1 speed merely accuracy)
 
OneMoar said:
12 to 16 threads seems to be about the sweet spot for getting 1:1 emulation
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That's true but that's not even the biggest limitation ... to squeeze the most performance out of PS3 devs often optimized and used SPs mixed in graphics pipeline due to underwhelming RSX graphics chip ... exact emulation on a PC with nice CPU/GPU separation has exact opposite effect
 
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