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NVIDIA GeForce GTX and GeForce RTX to Coexist in Product-Stack Till Q1-2019

2060 will be without rtx units.
Did you actually read between the lines of the title of the article?

I very much doubt nvidia will release an RTX 2060 without RTX capability...
 
I think there is quite a lot of demand for some of the features that RTX brings to the table, but I think to really be adopted in the market they will need to be brought to open platforms rather than proprietary systems as what NV is doing right now.
It’s not proprietary. It’s a Microsoft Direct X feature. Nvidia are just the ones to have made hardware and drivers to use it.
 
@$1,500 not many will be early adaptors!
 
1st gen RTX chips are a complete joke so far. Terrible performance with RTX enabled. 1080p 30-60 fps with 2080 Ti? LMAO.

12nm Ripoff too.
 
You can buy 1080ti or 2080 for same-ish price and performance without rtx. 1080ti should be in on sale till the end of year and you can wait for opportunity. If you want the best of the best youll have to cash out more. Or just wait on AMD, as it is practice since Pascal mid 2016
 
It seems like nVidia realizes that no matter how hard they push gigarays, many people will not be interested in it (even among enthusiasts like us). RTX has a lot of drawbacks, high price and poor performance chief among them. Consumers and nVidia both realize this. Many of us have said instead of getting anything from the RTX series, we're looking forward to grabbing a high end Pascal card for hopefully a cheaper price... therefore nVidia will continue to sell cards from the old generation.
 
It don't see why not... it's not like AMD has a horse in the race from the 1060 on up. As for the performance comments, I see them as comments on how good food is before anyone has tasted it yet. I'm gonna wait till final drivers are completed, game code is upgraded and independent tests are performed before fornming an opinion.
 
NVIDIA reportedly has mountains of unsold GeForce GTX 10-series inventory
Watching the pain of "drop the price and cut margins", "don't drop price, and see sales drop" of Huang will be fun.

Pascal has been their bread & butter for 3 years
Pascal has been announced in May 2016, a bit longer than 2 years ago.

It don't see why not... it's not like AMD has a horse in the race from the 1060 on up.
580 beats 1060, Vega56 beats 1070, often 1070Ti, and Vega 64 beats 1080.
No horses other than that, up from 1060 though.

I very much doubt nvidia will release an RTX 2060 without RTX capability...
With 2080Ti doing 30-60fps at 1080p, what kind of performance do you expect from RTX 2060?
 
Hahah, often 1070 beats vega 56 amd often 1080 beats vega64
 
Heh, that's a good one.
GTX 1060 clearly beats RX 580 and GTX 1080 beats Vega 64. GTX 1070 and Vega 56 is tighter, but AMD doesn't pull ahead. Of course, unless you cherry-pick.
 
@efikkan not surprising IMO. Even non cherry picked cores will do slightly better with minor overclocking, since Pascal can hold the boost clocks way better & longer than AMD's Polaris & Vega cores.
 
GTX 1060 clearly beats RX 580
It doesn't even matter, that in the given context, one merely needs to trade blows at +-5%, but demonstrates how delusional nVidia's fanboi are, "clearly beats 580", from this very site:


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Well, no custom 1060 in this test.
 
Well, no custom 1060 in this test.
A card that "clearly beats" loses stock vs stock at a set of games which hardly favor AMD, yeah, "butexcuses".
Did you mean 3Gb custom or 6Gb custom?

And we are talking cards, which can save you $200-$400 of Huang adaptive sync tax.
 
You clearly do not know how maxed out are rx 580 out of a box, their stock 580 is as highly factory overclocked custom rx 480. You can also see that on your graph as custom 580 vs stock 580 are only 2% apart
 
580 vs stock 580 are only 2% apart
That's too little isn't it? As compared, to, say, whopping 3%, that's 1.5 times more, by the way!

perfrel_1920_1080.png
 
Ok, you need math lessons first, than we will talk.
 
Ok, you need math lessons first, than we will talk.
I never understood why people thought that being pathetic and avoiding admitting they were wrong is the better choice.
 
You have final excuse: games that hardly favor AMD. Avoid that.
 
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