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Which one should I go with Core i5 8400 vs core i5 8500(or 8600) vs Ryzen 5 2600

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So I was looking to upgrade my system currently configured as

Core i5 4440
8 gb ddr 3
Gtx 1060 6gb

I wanted to upgrade my cpu and related components which one would be good to go with...where I can get good gaming fps (in games like pubg cod battlefield injustice nd other heavy games).

My budget is around 20k Inr to 24k inr. Please suggest.
 
either one will be good,there's no bad options here. i5 8400 will be the best bang for the buck out of these four as far as gaming

https://www.computerbase.de/2018-04/amd-ryzen-2000-test/4/

hexacore intel is a safe bet for gaming, it'll perform well in multithreaded and single threaded games,old and new. if you oc the 2600 though,it'll be pretty damn close and you'll have a pretty great bang for the buck entry level productivity cpu at the same cost.Even more so if you oc the memory. On b360 you're limited to 2666mhz. on b450 though, you can buy 2666 ram and oc to 2800/2933 easily.

all depends on the price in your country.

to sum up: stock - 8400. oc - 2600.

though be prepared that you really need to pump some good voltage into 2600 to achieve that extra 200-250mhz. combined with memory oc though, it should at least match 8400 in games,which is really good, and come out as a clear winner in productivity apllications.
 
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That only smart upgrade would be to go with an i7
 
what board do you have ? why not a used 4790k ?
 
That only smart upgrade would be to go with AMD
 
why ? can you stop speaking in code ?
 
okay. I get it now.
 
The i5-8600 (the fastest) is only 8.3% faster than the 2600(non X)(the slowest of the group). Basically, they're all the same. For a gaming build, the 8400 has been the low cost choice. The 8500 and 8600 are not worth the extra money IMHO.
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I stick to my answer

A i7 compatible with your current board
 
I stick to my answer

A i7 compatible with your current board
Yes, they could upgrade the CPU. Then upgrade the GPU Then add RAM.
But if I recall correctly, the i5 4440 was the 8400 of it's day and there was little performance difference it and the "K" cpu's.
 
The 4790K overclocked and i5 8400 should perform about the same, they're about the same price used or new, so its up to you. The i5 has newer support, but the i7 4790K has cheaper RAM. Also, don't go Ryzen.
 
either one will be good,there's no bad options here. i5 8400 will be the best bang for the buck out of these four as far as gaming

https://www.computerbase.de/2018-04/amd-ryzen-2000-test/4/

hexacore intel is a safe bet for gaming, it'll perform well in multithreaded and single threaded games,old and new. if you oc the 2600 though,it'll be pretty damn close and you'll have a pretty great bang for the buck entry level productivity cpu at the same cost.Even more so if you oc the memory. On b360 you're limited to 2666mhz. on b450 though, you can buy 2666 ram and oc to 2800/2933 easily.

all depends on the price in your country.

to sum up: stock - 8400. oc - 2600.

though be prepared that you really need to pump some good voltage into 2600 to achieve that extra 200-250mhz. combined with memory oc though, it should at least match 8400 in games,which is really good, and come out as a clear winner in productivity apllications.

So 8400 is better choice as per money.

what board do you have ? why not a used 4790k ?

I have compatible board for 1150 series but a non gaming board however, I hav already planned to sell that one along with cpu and ram.

That only smart upgrade would be to go with AMD

I did find ryzen 5 interesting but I am also concerned with longevity, correct me if m wrong.

Yes, they could upgrade the CPU. Then upgrade the GPU Then add RAM.
But if I recall correctly, the i5 4440 was the 8400 of it's day and there was little performance difference it and the "K" cpu's.

yes I am only upgrading cpu, motherboard and but obvious RAM will keep using gtx 1060 6gb for 1 more year.

The 4790K overclocked and i5 8400 should perform about the same, they're about the same price used or new, so its up to you. The i5 has newer support, but the i7 4790K has cheaper RAM. Also, don't go Ryzen.

So better to go with i5 8400 then. :-D
 
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I guess? You have a better upgrade plan, with up to a 9900K if you get a decent board. Ryzen is nice, but it still isnt as high powered as Intel, and the 8400/8500 are better than the 2600. It's only viable at the top and low end. AMD has promised to keep the Ryzen series on the same socket until 2020, so compatibly would likely be better than Intels, as the 9th gen is likely the last generation for Z170-Z390 motherboards physically
 
Well, chances are I may end up in New Delhi sometime next year as I will be looking for work out their and since my wife has family in the city, so if you can wait, I can sell you my Core i7 4770. Or I have a core i5 4670K which is a good overclocker I can sell you which will bring out lots of performance.

In all fairness, upgrading right now isn't the best. Options still suck and I would wait for the new 9xxx series or wait to see what AMD comes out with next year. Otherwise, just upgrade current system.
 
Frankly 8400 seems very obvious when you look at the reviews from different sites,but the more I think about the pros of ryzen,the more I like a 2600 in such mid-range build.
Like I said in the first sentence,and I can't stress it enoigh,there's no bad choices here.
 
If you can possibly wait a while, I'd suggest waiting for whiskey lake (9xxx series) at minimum. The i5 8400 is a decent choice, but more and more users on "older" platforms are experiencing freaky issues as vulnerabilities are discovered and patched (sometimes poorly), so it's best to grab the latest hardware if you're upgrading. Whiskey lake has some (not all) fixes baked into silicon, so that helps a little.
 
The 4790K overclocked and i5 8400 should perform about the same, they're about the same price used or new, so its up to you. The i5 has newer support, but the i7 4790K has cheaper RAM. Also, don't go Ryzen.
No they're not, check the prices in India & find me a site selling 4790k or 4770k below 20k INR, in fact outside the US I doubt you'll find the Haswell i7 as cheap as the 8400. Used market ~ for sure you can get anything at lower price levels but generally it's not much popular over here because people tend to stick to their PC for "decades" :shadedshu:

Now, as for the OP ~ I will suggest Ryzen as well because you will have an upgrade path & generally AMD provides better VFM.
 
I did find ryzen 5 interesting but I am also concerned with longevity, correct me if m wrong.

I shall correct you. The resent AMD line up has twice the longevity as intel does at the moment. The current Intel line up will come to an end this year where as AMD has life all the way to 2020 (maybe longer) Also the 2600/X has twice the threads over the Intel 8400/8500/8600 which will also benefit more in the future.

If you want the best FPS in games then sure go with Intel it will give you more FPS in games but dont expect to do a drop in replacement CPU upgrade in the future after this year.

 
Except, you're forgetting that the 9000 series are coming to Z370 this year, and the 9900K is sure to beat even the 2700X by a landslide
And with it, you'll likely not to have to upgrade until Ryzen becomes viable in the high end
 
I did find ryzen 5 interesting but I am also concerned with longevity, correct me if m wrong.
one of the biggest concerns with any cpu/system upgrade/update is longevity and futureproofing. AMD likes to stick to one cpu socket, while intel will change sockets about every other year or new cpu release (even incrementals). Which is why its usually suggested doing your research before buying, or you can listen to the shills. It shouldnt matter which chip beats which as long as it works for your wallet and intended use.
 
The stuttering is likely the CPU, something like a i7 6700(k) or i7 7700(k) shoud fix that and allow the GPU to render more frames. Ryzen is nice, but the comparable Intel options are faster, and allow for upgrade to the 9900K, which likely beat whatever high end Ryzen 2 CPU comes out, but neither is out yet and is to early to tell defintely.

You might be extremely lucky and have one of the random motherboards that allows for a BIOS mod to a 8th gen CPU, but its not likely and if it is, its more likely to be unstable
 
The stuttering is likely the CPU, something like a i7 6700(k) or i7 7700(k) shoud fix that and allow the GPU to render more frames. Ryzen is nice, but the comparable Intel options are faster, and allow for upgrade to the 9900K, which likely beat whatever high end Ryzen 2 CPU comes out, but neither is out yet and is to early to tell defintely.

You might be extremely lucky and have one of the random motherboards that allows for a BIOS mod to a 8th gen CPU, but its not likely and if it is, its more likely to be unstable
speculating that a CPU will fix stuttering, ROFL!
 
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