The amount of ROPS was half on what 5700XT has if i'm correct.
Both Vega 64 and the 5700/5700XT have 64 ROPs
The amount of ROPS was half on what 5700XT has if i'm correct.
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You think NVIDIA is going down from the 2080's msrp of $799 to $599 on the 2080 Super?
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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que?ah more of the classic Nvidia moving the goal posts with Super versions and price drops.
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What does that even mean?
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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lol... wow. Ill leave this bullshit alone then. Glass house... stones. Pots and black kettles...It means that Nvidia isn't allowed to release new, higher performing parts without rebranding for at least 1 to 2 generations. (The RTG way)
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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Awesome!So happy I decided to Bite the bullet an buy a 1080 ti before crypto-crap drove prices up. 8700k and 1080 ti still faster than 99% of machines out there according to 3DMark. Picked the MSI 1080 ti Gaming X up on sale for $629 back in '17.
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Awesome!
But what does that have to do with this thread about AMDs new gpu?
@Vayra86 I like you new avatar, maybe put a mirror in the other hand?
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Benchmark Scores | #1 worldwide on 3D Mark 99, back in the (P133) days. :) |
RTX 2080 Super for $599 is going to be the card worth buying still I am afraid. only $150 more and it will decimate, not just beat; everything and probably come to stock 2080 ti in some games once oc'd. if you want your card to last a couple years longer, might as well spend $150 more. so eh. but if you upgrade yearly or bi-yearly then yeah I'd say go navi
"Only" $150 more? That's 25% more, how much faster is it exactly to justify the 25% higher price? It would need to be 25%, or more, faster to my mind.
@Vayra86 I like you new avatar, maybe put a mirror in the other hand?
You think NVIDIA is going down from the 2080's msrp of $799 to $599 on the 2080 Super?
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Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | It plays games. |
Interesting. I had read they were coming at the MSRP of the model they replace and in turn, those would see their price reduced. Wccftech and videocardz today both said $699 for the 2080 Super, which is still far cheaper than I ever expected from NVIDIA, so it seems your statement wasn't as crazy as I thought. Where did you get your leaks from?those are what all the leaks have been saying.
Interesting. I had read they were coming at the MSRP of the model they replace and in turn, those would see their price reduced. Wccftech and videocardz today both said $699 for the 2080 Super, which is still far cheaper than I ever expected from NVIDIA, so it seems your statement wasn't as crazy as I thought. Where did you get your leaks from?
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This is a wrong argument and always has been. I still don't get it why this is almost a meme now.You have a shitty card like the 1050ti vastly outselling the superior 570. AMD has been practically giving them away ($120-ish with 2 games) but 1050ti still has a pretty large lead (at least according to steam analytics).
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Motherboard | ASRock X470 Taich Ultimate |
Cooling | Cryorig (not recommended) |
Memory | 32GB (2 x 16GB) Team 3200 MT/s, CL14 |
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Mouse | Roccat Leadr |
Keyboard | K95 RGB |
Software | Windows 11 Pro x64, insider preview dev channel |
Benchmark Scores | #1 worldwide on 3D Mark 99, back in the (P133) days. :) |
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Video Card(s) | NVIDIA GTX 1080 FE |
Display(s) | ASUS PG43UQ |
VR HMD | Valve Index |
Software | Windows 7 |
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Motherboard | Asus TUF B550-Plus WiFi |
Cooling | Scythe Fuma 2 |
Memory | 2x8GB DDR4 G.Skill FlareX 3200Mhz CL16 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 3060 Ti Gaming Z |
Storage | Kingston KC3000 1TB + WD SN550 1TB + Samsung 860 QVO 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 27GP850-B |
Case | Lian Li O11 Air Mini |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z200 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus+ Gold 750W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 |
Keyboard | MasterKeys Pro S White (MX Brown) |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | It plays games. |
System Name | "Run of the mill" (except GPU) |
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Processor | R9 3900X |
Motherboard | ASRock X470 Taich Ultimate |
Cooling | Cryorig (not recommended) |
Memory | 32GB (2 x 16GB) Team 3200 MT/s, CL14 |
Video Card(s) | Radeon RX6900XT |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo plus 1TB NVMe |
Display(s) | Samsung Q95T |
Case | Define R5 |
Audio Device(s) | On board |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime 1000W |
Mouse | Roccat Leadr |
Keyboard | K95 RGB |
Software | Windows 11 Pro x64, insider preview dev channel |
Benchmark Scores | #1 worldwide on 3D Mark 99, back in the (P133) days. :) |
System Name | Home PC |
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Processor | Ryzen 5900X |
Motherboard | Asus Prime X370 Pro |
Cooling | Thermaltake Contac Silent 12 |
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Keyboard | Old 12 years FOCUS FK-8100 |
Where did you get 5%? only 15% faster in AMD's title and nothingAMD announcement: 5% faster than 2070.
Pre-release leaks: matches 2070.
Reviews after release: ???
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Motherboard | ASUS ProArt B550-CREATOR ||| Asus P9X79 WS |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S ||| Be Quiet Pure Rock |
Memory | Crucial 2 x 16 GB 3200 MHz ||| Corsair 8 x 8 GB 1333 MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1060 3GB ||| MSI GTX 680 4GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB + 1 TB ||| Intel 545s 512 GB + 256 GB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" ||| Eizo EV2416W 24" |
Case | Fractal Design Define 7 XL x 2 |
Audio Device(s) | Cambridge Audio DacMagic Plus |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus PX-850 x 2 |
Mouse | Razer Abyssus |
Keyboard | CM Storm QuickFire XT |
Software | Ubuntu |
It should come as no surprise that AMD, Intel and Nvidia all tend to demonstrate slightly cherry-picked previews.AMD announcement: 5% faster than 2070.
Pre-release leaks: matches 2070.
Reviews after release: ???
Processor | Intel Xeon E5-1650 v2 |
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Motherboard | ASUS P9X79 |
Video Card(s) | NVIDIA GTX 1080 FE |
Display(s) | ASUS PG43UQ |
VR HMD | Valve Index |
Software | Windows 7 |
Curious: Why is that "the wrong argument" (IYO)?
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X ||| Intel Core i7-3930K |
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Motherboard | ASUS ProArt B550-CREATOR ||| Asus P9X79 WS |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S ||| Be Quiet Pure Rock |
Memory | Crucial 2 x 16 GB 3200 MHz ||| Corsair 8 x 8 GB 1333 MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1060 3GB ||| MSI GTX 680 4GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB + 1 TB ||| Intel 545s 512 GB + 256 GB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" ||| Eizo EV2416W 24" |
Case | Fractal Design Define 7 XL x 2 |
Audio Device(s) | Cambridge Audio DacMagic Plus |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus PX-850 x 2 |
Mouse | Razer Abyssus |
Keyboard | CM Storm QuickFire XT |
Software | Ubuntu |
This have pretty much been the case for years.I'd like to know too. From Steam Hardware Survey (May)
1050Ti = 9.91%
570 = 0.45%
1060 = 16.30%
580 =1.25%
Those two AMD cards are equal to or better than their counterparts, yet the marketshare disparity is massive. And now you have situations like today, where NV controlling most of the market, can set the price however high they want b/c people just keep buying NV no matter what.
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Cooling | Alpenföhn Black Ridge |
Memory | 2*16GB DDR4-2666 VLP @3800 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA Geforce RTX 3080 XC3 |
Storage | 1TB Samsung 970 Pro, 2TB Intel 660p |
Display(s) | ASUS PG279Q, Eizo EV2736W |
Case | Dan Cases A4-SFX |
Power Supply | Corsair SF600 |
Mouse | Corsair Ironclaw Wireless RGB |
Keyboard | Corsair K60 |
VR HMD | HTC Vive |
GTX1050Ti and RX570 are not intended to be competitors and for the majority of their lifetime they have not been. RX570 was intended and priced to compete with GTX1060 - at MSRP of $169 or with street prices around or above that for most of last year until this spring. Before that, it was horrendously overpriced ($300+) during mining boom. GTX1050Ti is a $139 MSRP card that for most of its lifetime has been selling at $140-150 and was largely unaffected by mining craze, being even better in terms of $/perf for large parts of the lifetime.@londiste Curious: Why is that "the wrong argument" (IYO)?