RyZen 3000 Boost Issue: What's your take?

[Deleted member 50521]

So apparently RyZen 3000 CPUs are not hitting their advertised boost clocks. As amazing as the performance of these processors are it left some sour taste for some RyZen3000 owners.

Ryzen 3000: AMD deliberately limited Boost behavior in favor of longevity, says Asus staff

An Asus employee gas mentioned that AMD has reduced the boost behavior of the Ryzen 3000 processors to a more moderate level as it was too aggressive and now is a bit more limited in favor of longevit...

www.guru3d.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/cusn2t

So what do you think?

 

[TheLostSwede]

It seems to be UEFI related, I've posted I think a 100 posts here about it by now, but with the latest UEFI from Gigabyte, my CPU finally boosts to 4,525MHz, whereas before that, it would not get 1MHz past 4,000.25MHz.

The fact shamino hasn't seen a fix, doesn't really concern me, as clearly Gigabyte has solved it, so it seems fixable.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

My 3900X seems to boost just fine.

Overall performance is amazing and right in line with what I paid for.

I almost went 3800X but figured 100$ was worth the 4 extra cores if I had went 3800X I probably would have been bummed post reviews over how similar it is to the 3700X.

I think AMD should have done a better job with the 3600X and 3800X with binning they both seem rushed.

 

[TheLostSwede]

My 3900X seems to boost just fine.

Overall performance is amazing and right in line with what I paid for.

I almost went 3800X but figured 100$ was worth the 4 extra cores if I had went 3800X I probably would have been bummed post reviews over how similar it is to the 3700X.

I think AMD should have done a better job with the 3600X and 3800X with binning they both seem rushed.

Which is a separate matter to the boosting issue, but I fully agree on your point about the SKUs being way too close this time around.

 

[tabascosauz]

3700X. I actually don't mind the reduction of the boost. I never hit 4400MHz, but get pretty close at about 4360-70MHz. Irrelevant, because my potato seems to need a billion volts for anything over 4GHz, making boost clocks over 4.2GHz nothing more than transient anyways.

AMD needs to address the fact that it's all or nothing; either you go balls to the wall to max boost despite your silicon quality, or base speed only.

 

[kartoffelotto]

actually, prices here have become as similar as the cpus for 3700x and 3800x. 3800x is now 368€, i lol at my impatience

 

[Chomiq]

They should get their facts right. Or do they believe that settling out of court 10 years from now is cheaper than risking stock price drop now?

 

[FinneousPJ]

Really bad poll. Super biased options.

 

[phanbuey]

Option 3 - It's fine. I DONT CARE AND I HATE SMALL CHILDREN.

Pretty sure that whole department is about to get cleared out anyways...

AMD agrees to cough up $35-a-chip payout over eight-core Bulldozer advertising fiasco

A great deal or were consumers Bulldozed by the chip giant?

www.theregister.co.uk

Lisa is about to go in there with a hatchet.

 

[Tomgang]

Not gonna vote, but it seems boost has just as much to do with motherboards. Same cpu boost different on different boards.

 

[biffzinker]

I'm sticking with a manual overclock of 4.175 GHz across all cores as long as I don't require the red voltage (1.45+) options for stability.

 

[R-T-B]

I hate all forms of "boost" with a vengance. So, let me just say that I won't be saying this is an AMD exclusive issue. It's even present in the GPU scene. Heck, it practically started there.

 

[trparky]

I hate all forms of "boost" with a vengance. So, let me just say that I won't be saying this is an AMD exclusive issue. It's even present in the GPU scene. Heck, it practically started there.

It’s worse on the Intel side, unless you have really good cooling forget about consistent boost clocks unless of course you enable All-Core Boost.

 

[lexluthermiester]

So apparently RyZen 3000 CPUs are not hitting their advertised boost clocks. As amazing as the performance of these processors are it left some sour taste for some RyZen3000 owners.

Ryzen 3000: AMD deliberately limited Boost behavior in favor of longevity, says Asus staff

An Asus employee gas mentioned that AMD has reduced the boost behavior of the Ryzen 3000 processors to a more moderate level as it was too aggressive and now is a bit more limited in favor of longevit...

www.guru3d.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/cusn2t

So what do you think?

I've done many upgrades to existing systems and built a bunch of systems based on the Ryzen 3xxx CPU's and have not seen even one instance where the CPU failed to hit it's rated specs or boost clocks. I've seen a bunch of boards overvolting them by default, causing heat issues and thus throttling. Dropping the voltages to what they are supposed to be solves this issue instantly. Maybe this is the problem people are having? Just a guess though.

 

[Nordic]

It is a bad poll but I do think amd messed up.

 

[Divide Overflow]

Poll is full of troll.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Poll is full of troll.

While it seems biased, can't really call it a troll of a poll because it's addressing a very real issue people are having..

 

[TheLostSwede]

While it seems biased, can't really call it a troll of a poll because it's addressing a very real issue people are having..

The poll is full of troll, however, the question is legitimate.

 

[Divide Overflow]

While it seems biased, can't really call it a troll of a poll because it's addressing a very real issue people are having..

My 3900X seems to boost just fine. Poll sure came across as trolling to me.

 

[lexluthermiester]

My 3900X seems to boost just fine. Poll sure came across as trolling to me.

I think you might be confusing the term "trolling" with "biased", with it very much seems to be.

 

[eidairaman1]

I've done many upgrades to existing system and built a bunch of systems based on the Ryzen 3xxx CPU's and have not seen even one instance where the CPU failed to hit it's rated specs or boost clocks. I've seen a bunch of boards overvolting them by default, causing heat issues and thus throttling. Dropping the voltages to what they are supposed to be solves this issue instantly. Maybe this is the problem people are having? Just a guess though.

The og is biased.

My 3900X seems to boost just fine. Poll sure came across as trolling to me.

I think you might be confusing the term "trolling" with "biased", with it very much seems to be.

 

[Octopuss]

Can anyone explain this longevity nonsense AMD claims to me? It sounds like utter nonsense to me. It's not like a CPU is overvolting itself while boosting (and even if it did, it doesn't matter, because it would last years anyway), so this feels like completely pointless change.

 

[londiste]

Can anyone explain this longevity nonsense AMD claims to me? It sounds like utter nonsense to me. It's not like a CPU is overvolting itself while boosting (and even if it did, it doesn't matter, because it would last years anyway), so this feels like completely pointless change.

It depends on what would be considered overvolting. Ryzen 3000 CPUs do run cores at 1.4-1.5V when boosting.

 

[Vario]

This is my take:

They could have sold these as 3.5GHz processors with unlocked overclocking and a potential +800 MHz overclock.

The processor would then be poorly reviewed by hardware websites that cater to gamers, compared to Intel.

So instead, they found a way to make it beat or tie with Intel in nearly every possible circumstance: gaming, single thread workloads, and multithread workloads; with no remaining overclock headroom, and on some examples, strange voltages, high temperatures, and inconsistent turbos.

It seems a bit bait and switch and deceptive, as the earlier AMD statements to early adopter redditors on /r/amd were "your new Ryzen 3000 series processor is perfectly fine with high voltage transients and high temperatures because its a new architecture and popular hw monitoring tools are too sensitive at recording data"

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g

 

[silkstone]

So apparently RyZen 3000 CPUs are not hitting their advertised boost clocks. As amazing as the performance of these processors are it left some sour taste for some RyZen3000 owners.

Ryzen 3000: AMD deliberately limited Boost behavior in favor of longevity, says Asus staff

An Asus employee gas mentioned that AMD has reduced the boost behavior of the Ryzen 3000 processors to a more moderate level as it was too aggressive and now is a bit more limited in favor of longevit...

www.guru3d.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/cusn2t

So what do you think?

I have every issue listed in that video. It's not really a deal breaker for me as I don't need the clocks, but obviously I want it to be fixed!