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'AMD postpones Zen 3 processors to 2021 due to weak competition'

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Market analyst Digitimes claims that AMD has decided to postpone the disclosure of the chips with the Zen 3 architecture, due to a lack of competition. That would mean that we no longer have to expect the chips this year.

Intel appears to be more or less stuck on its optimized 14nm nodes for quite some time. Although the 10nm process is operational and used in the Ice Lake and soon Tiger Lake processors, large-scale use of the production process does not seem to be the case at the moment. For the desktop it would even only be used from the generation after the next generation, Rocket Lake. AMD is reportedly going to introduce some new Ryzen 3000 chips tomorrow, which should be able to handle slightly faster clock speeds. As far as 10 nanometers is concerned, it makes sense for Intel to wait to use the node for servers and desktops, since the former have less margins and the latter are usually very expensive to produce.

It is clear that AMD has an edge, especially in terms of production costs and performance per watt. Intel does not seem able to make sufficiently competitive desktop chips in the near future, so for team red it is very wise from a strategic perspective to 'hit an Intel' and delay the launch. It was previously revealed that AMD was going to postpone the disclosure for a quarter to make the chips on TSMC's 5nm + node, which would go into mass production just before that. The new variants would therefore likely be more efficient and have smaller dies, which is clearly a good reason to make such a complex switch. Not much later, however, we saw on an official slide from AMD that the Ryzen 4000 CPUs will simply be made on TSMCs 7 nanometers.

However, Digitimes seems to have a point in terms of competitive advantage. Thinking about changing the production process seems very unlikely in the short term, but in the longer term, the benefits of 5nm + over the Ryzen and Epyc chips for desktops and servers could prove very beneficial. Digitimes also writes that Nvidia would be on track to launch its Ampere products. AMD wouldn't reveal the high-end Navi chips until Nvidia made its move.



Digitimes (google translate)
 
As my economic situation is right now, It doesn't brother me if they are delayed or not.

But perhaps others are disappointed if true.
 
Not surprising, if true. Also considering the current market, I guess AMD decided it's better to launch 2021 with something fresh and new. I doubt 3-4 months is going to make the least bit difference, except for the group of people that are waiting to build a new rig...
 
I guess this give some time for 400 series board makers to prepare their BIOS for Zen3 or perhaps by the time Zen3 is released they are EOL and everyone will be shopping for b550 and x570 at that point.
 
So THIS is how AMD gets out of having to support older motherboards. Clever.

"lack of competition" what a lame excuse. If there is 0 competition you should be punching them while they're down. Dont let them get back up, or youll end up with another core 2.
 
Market analyst Digitimes claims that AMD has decided to postpone the disclosure of the chips with the Zen 3 architecture, due to a lack of competition. That would mean that we no longer have to expect the chips this year.
"Slap me with a wet Kipper" who thought we would be reading this
 
Seems like they're happy with the new XT versions competing with Intel's latest and greatest.

I await benches, but it matters naught to me , I'm not swapping for a Few fps or zero at 4k anyway.
 
Would explain the XT launch but not sure if this is real/reliable.
 
I just hope NVIDIA stays on course, looking forward to my 3080Ti :D
 
Well do put the XT refresh into another light, but maybe AMD is going the Intel 14nm +++++++ route?
 
That slap to the face was so hard I heard it from here :laugh:
 
So THIS is how AMD gets out of having to support older motherboards. Clever.

"lack of competition" what a lame excuse. If there is 0 competition you should be punching them while they're down. Dont let them get back up, or youll end up with another core 2.
That's from DigiTimes/Hardware Info, not from AMD, so you can't blame AMD for that comment.
 
So THIS is how AMD gets out of having to support older motherboards. Clever.

"lack of competition" what a lame excuse. If there is 0 competition you should be punching them while they're down. Dont let them get back up, or youll end up with another core 2.

Lmao, already getting the pitchforks out? :kookoo:
 
Disappointing a bit for me personally as I was looking into buying a new rig, but my original plan was to get a 2600 in july on the cheap anyway, and then just upgrade to 4000 later this year. So it's not like i wont have anything to use.
As a matter of fact this is actually not that bad, now I wont have to upgrade both the cpu and the gpu in a short period of time.
 
Disappointing a bit for me personally as I was looking into buying a new rig, but my original plan was to get a 2600 in july on the cheap anyway, and then just upgrade to 4000 later this year. So it's not like i wont have anything to use.
As a matter of fact this is actually not that bad, now I wont have to upgrade both the cpu and the gpu in a short period of time.
Just do a 1600AF instead.
 
slow down ? no,can't be true.that'd be a sign of stagnation.
 
Seems like they're happy with the new XT versions competing with Intel's latest and greatest.

I await benches, but it matters naught to me , I'm not swapping for a Few fps or zero at 4k anyway.
imo they are happy already.xt is just a premium sku imo,not a replacement.
it's not really their goal to beat intel in absolutely everything they can beat it in,i.e. in single thread and gaming too
their goal is sell,sell,sell and they can achieve that already with a smart design for their whole product stack.

So THIS is how AMD gets out of having to support older motherboards. Clever.

"lack of competition" what a lame excuse. If there is 0 competition you should be punching them while they're down. Dont let them get back up, or youll end up with another core 2.
it's business
intel gotta make a move
just like amd had to make a move with ryzen to force intel to do anything more than adding a few percent performance
 
works for me, waiting on 3080ti anyway
 
Not surprising, if true. Also considering the current market, I guess AMD decided it's better to launch 2021 with something fresh and new. I doubt 3-4 months is going to make the least bit difference, except for the group of people that are waiting to build a new rig...
I'm one of those people, though I'm not in a rush. The more I wait, the more cash I'll have for better hardware.
 
Well well, I've seen increased in raw material PO from AMD and her partners, but yeah, those are for next 3 years of production. Everyone is stockpiling right now. The XT from AMD was supposed to be unveiled in the beginning but the FAB was unable to produce the good bin in the beginning. Oh well, in my opinion, it's AMD beating a dead horse if they were to release new CPUs this year. Gotta wait another year and see what intel does.
 
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