10700 vs 3700x which one if both priced almost the same ?

[SL2]

it's your point of view that for a build that will last 5-7 years he will only need a match for a 2070,which is delusional imo but you've a right to speak and have opinios

Need???
I never said that.
I said it doesn't sound like he's about to put more money than that into a graphics card.

We're done here.

 

[cucker tarlson]

He's looking at the 10700, not the 10700k



Better fps, but worse value

Both give you a great gaming experience but your upgrade path on AM4 with a b550 is MUCH more promising. You have a wide open path all the way up to 16+cores plus the ryzen 4000 series. That upgradeability is something you simply can't get from intel, and since your buddy does alot of video encoding it's something that could potentially benefit him in the future. It's unfortunate you are looking at such skewed prices wherever you are from because the $60 dollar difference in msrp (should) make the decision much easier.

go with Intel if your buddy is super concerned with a couple of extra frames here and there, and go with Amd if your buddy values his money and wants his system to be useful to him for longer

no upgrading.read the thread.

no one is going to spend 400 on a cpu,200 on a board,and then go budget when buying a gpu for 5-7 years

imo if he's using or planning high refresh rate gaming then 10700 is the obvious choice.
for 60fps he's fine with 3700x,but may save BIG on 3600

and how is 3700x better "value"
you're getting same gaming performance as lowest locked i5s
not exactly great value to me

We're done here.

suit yourself if you don't wanna participate

 

[jayseearr]

no upgrading.read the thread.

no one is going to spend 400 on a cpu,200 on a board,and then go budget when buying a gpu for 5-7 years

imo if he's using or planning high refresh rate gaming then 10700 is the obvious choice.
for 60fps he's fine with 3700x,but may save BIG on 3600

and how is 3700x better "value"
you're getting same gaming performance as lowest locked i5s
not exactly great value to me


suit yourself if you don't wanna participate

Im confused, why no upgrading? I saw where he said he doesn't plan on upgrading (anytime soon) but why not in the future?
As far as spending 400 on the cpu, the guy wouldn't be doing that by choice, evidently he has no choice but to pay well over msrp.
as far as buying budget gpu for the next X years, where did that come from? b550 has pcie gen 4 right? why would he have to buy budget gpus?
lastly, i said AM4/B550 was the better value, not the 3700x.

 

[Vya Domus]

It's likely he will be getting 2080/2080ti levels of performance, which means it's braindead to pair that with a CPU that will limit FPS. To all those raving about "muh AMD futureproof socket" the guy isn't going to touch the CPU/Mobo for the next 5-7 years...

In 5-7 years both CPUs and whatever GPU he buys are going to be worthless, I just love how you Intel fans speak with such passion about a 5% difference and how how you pretend that it's somehow orders of magnitude better.

 

[jayseearr]

In 5-7 years both CPUs are going to be worthless, I just love how you Intel fans speak with such passion about a 5% difference and how how you pretend that it's somehow orders of magnitude better.

"worthless" is strongly worded although, i get your point. But it only strengthens the amd value propostion even further. with tech moving as fast as it does nowdays you would be silly not to take better value and upgradeability options where you can get them. Since they are both going to be "worthless" as you say in 5 or so years, why not take the one that will help mitigate that (even if it's just a small amount)

As far as the bit about the intel fans blowing frame rate differences out of proportion, i whole heartedly agree with you there.

 

[dgianstefani]

In 5-7 years both CPUs and whatever GPU he buys are going to be worthless, I just love how you Intel fans speak with such passion about a 5% difference and how how you pretend that it's somehow orders of magnitude better.

170+ fps instead of 130fps is not a 5% difference buddy, and that's on current gen GPUs.

Learn to read, the guy is not changing his CPU/Mobo for next 5-7 years, and is planning on buying a next gen GPU. This means "upgrade path" is worthless.

"AMD value" both options he's looking at are the same price, and all the "advantages" you rave about are relevant to your needs not to what the OP has said. Once again, learn to read.

 

[cucker tarlson]

In 5-7 years both CPUs and whatever GPU he buys are going to be worthless, I just love how you Intel fans speak with such passion about a 5% difference and how how you pretend that it's somehow orders of magnitude better.

just like 6700K is worthless now,right
lol.

 

[Vya Domus]

170+ fps instead of 130fps is not a 5% difference buddy.

It certainly isn't, in whatever made up example you got there.

Learn to read, the guy is not changing his CPU/Mobo for next 5-7 years, and is planning on buying a next gen GPU. This means "upgrade path" is worthless.

It will be as worthless as whatever difference between these two CPUs will be after 7 god damn years, you are clutching at straws. Again, you're pouring your heart and soul over single digit differences, that's the only braindead thing on here if you ask me.

 

[Raptor_i]

His current CPU is i7 860 ( 10 years old cpu ) lets say it's worthless or not up-to the task anymore, his next upgrade if any will be when the 10700 or 3700x is worthless too or struggle to do the job.

We didn't count in the 6 cores CPU because we want more future proof and it's a one time buy for the CPU/MB .

Thank you everyone for your suggestions and any further opinions are very much appreciated, we will continue researching and monitoring the local prices in the coming few days and then we'll pull the trigger, I will keep you updated.

 

[SL2]

No upgrade intended anytime soon..

New AMD CPU's, GPU's, and Nvidia GPU's are expected to launch within three months or so. I'd say it's next to impossible to say now what to buy after that.

 

[Vya Domus]

his next upgrade if any will be when the 10700 or 3700x is worthless too or struggle to do the job.

They'll both become useless at the same time, the 3700X will hold on a bit longer probably because it has 2 more cores. But this debate is a waste of time, he should just buy whatever is cheapest.

 

[dgianstefani]

It certainly isn't, in whatever made up example you got there.



It will be as worthless as whatever difference between these two CPUs will be after 7 god damn years. Again, you're pouring your heart and soul trying over single digit differences, that's the only braindead thing on here if you ask me.

The majority of games played at 1080p with a 2080ti reflects these trends, and next gen GPUs will allow further distancing.

 

[cucker tarlson]

They'll both become useless at the same time, the 3700X will hold on a bit longer probably because it has 2 more cores. But this debate is a waste of time, he should just buy whatever is cheapest.

lol
they're both 8c and both cost the same for the OP

most clueless piece of advice in the thread

 

[JustAnEngineer]

Core i7-6700K is a 4-core/8-thread Skylake processor fabricated on a 14 nm process with dual-channel memory. It was released five years ago. Core i3-10320 is a 4-core/8-thread Skylake processor fabricated on a 14 nm process with dual-channel memory. It was released less than three months ago. For Intel, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

[dgianstefani]

They'll both become useless at the same time, the 3700X will hold on a bit longer probably because it has 2 more cores. But this debate is a waste of time, he should just buy whatever is cheapest.

Braindead. Arguing a topic when you can't even count. Both the 10700 and 3700x have the same core count.

 

[SL2]

They'll both become useless at the same time, the 3700X will hold on a bit longer probably because it has 2 more cores. But this debate is a waste of time, he should just buy whatever is cheapest.

That's why he's asking us. He doesn't want the $9 decide.

 

[dgianstefani]

Core i7-6700K is a 4-core/8-thread Skylake processor fabricated on a 14 nm process with dual-channel memory. It was released five years ago. Core i3-10320 is a 4-core/8-thread Skylake processor fabricated on a 14 nm process with dual-channel memory. It was released less than three months ago. For Intel, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

Comparing a $400 cpu to a $140 cpu and saying there's no progress lmfao.

 

[Vya Domus]

Braindead. Arguing a topic when you can't even count. Both the 10700 and 3700x have the same core count.

I got them mixed up, chill down. Anyway, keep spamming this thread about single digit percentages.

 

[dgianstefani]

"single digit percentages"

 

[SL2]

The majority of games played at 1080p with a 2080ti reflects these trends, and next gen GPUs will allow further distancing.

1080p with a 2080Ti isn't really a common combination, and judging by the Lynnfield he's rocking he's probably not gaming for a living.

Next gen GPU's.. you forgot to mention next gen CPU's.

 

[dgianstefani]

1080p and below is the resolution where you are limited by the CPU. I guess room temperature IQ would have you do CPU reviews in resolutions where the GPU is the bottleneck?

 

[Vya Domus]

Yep, single digits.

But go ahead and scour the internet to find those few edge cases when the difference is bigger than that, that's how it works right ? You find the biggest gap between the two and claim that's the case across the board. Top 10 brainded argumentation techniques brought to you by your average Intel fans.

 

[dgianstefani]

Hahahaha ok. You asked for it.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Yep, single digits.

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But go ahead and scour the internet to find those few edge cases when the difference is bigger than that, that's how it works right ?

that's 9.6% on average
means less in gpu bound scenarios and more in cpu bound,ac odyssey shows 15%

 

[dgianstefani]

Compiling it now. But just to get the cognitive dissonance right, you're still comparing two same priced options, one of which is demonstrably 10% faster, and arguing for the slower.