Modern case airflow vs giants of yesteryear, results... wow!

[Valantar]

I am no dude, but as gentlemen I will elaborate at specific questions.

Here's a specific question: what exactly were you trying to say with that post? It is utterly and completely incomprehensible.

 

[kiriakost]

Here's a specific question: what exactly were you trying to say with that post? It is utterly and completely incomprehensible.

Reply to all three members asking for clarifications.
Computing has nothing to do with water cooling madness, this is a fake need and smartly implanted at young people heads so the makers of such parts to get their money.
The same goes for the six or eight fans PC tower. ( Another myth so this to be consumed by Gamers ).
Since the moment that an idiot designer decided to place the PSU at the bottom of a case, the on board DC fan become crippled about this helping at airflow, and it become instead a vacuum cleaner, sucking air and dust from the bottom of the case in to the PSU compartement.

Today that robotic arms do all the work the price of pipe fitting this is no more than 0.30 USD Cent, but the price as new this presented to be 12 or 16 USD.
This market it is heavily twisted, and especially the product reviewers they are obligated to assist consumers about them making more reasonable choices.

Extreme water cooling solutions, RGB fans, the six or eight fans PC tower, all are sort lived fashions, which they will move away soon.
This is my thinking, do not try to debate, just reject it if you disagree, but in case that you do disagree? Just ask your own self of what is the resale value of all such fancy items as used?
If you make the mistake paying 25$ for a single fan by eight times, how much they worth if you sale them as used ? I am predicting 60% loss of your money.

 

[freeagent]

Ive used old Stackers, and had some Fractal cases, used some misc. cases in between, no case.. but my favourite case for air cooling is definitely the Meshify C. As for expensive fans.. I bought a bunch of 120x38 Panaflos eons ago for what many guys pay for weak in the knees but quiet Noctuas and they still out perform most modern fans, and I probably have another 10 years left with them.. been running since 2006 or so. They aren't pretty to most, and they are loud AF at full speed.

 

[sneekypeet]

Reply to all three members asking for clarifications.
Computing has nothing to do with water cooling madness, this is a fake need and smartly implanted at young people heads so the makers of such parts to get their money.
The same goes for the six or eight fans PC tower. ( Another myth so this to be consumed by Gamers ).
Since the moment that an idiot designer decided to place the PSU at the bottom of a case, the on board DC fan become crippled about this helping at airflow, and it become instead a vacuum cleaner, sucking air and dust from the bottom of the case in to the PSU compartement.

Today that robotic arms do all the work the price of pipe fitting this is no more than 0.30 USD Cent, but the price as new this presented to be 12 or 16 USD.
This market it is heavily twisted, and especially the product reviewers they are obligated to assist consumers about them making more reasonable choices.

Extreme water cooling solutions, RGB fans, the six or eight fans PC tower, all are sort lived fashions, which they will move away soon.
This is my thinking, do not try to debate, just reject it if you disagree, but in case that you do disagree? Just ask your own self of what is the resale value of all such fancy items as used?
If you make the mistake paying 25$ for a single fan by eight times, how much they worth if you sale them as used ? I am predicting 60% loss of your money.

You make a lot of assertions that simply aren't true.

Water cooling is awesome for GPUs with all the newer boost clock features that air coolers do not maintain properly. Go ahead and find an air cooler for CPUs like a Threadripper or even a 9900k.

You have no idea about BOM costs of products being developed, nor the tooling to do so.

If you buy a PC for resale value, its likely you did not need that PC in the first place.

Not even going to touch your stance on reviewers, as you have a strange outlook on everything else, so why bother.

 

[kiriakost]

I bought a bunch of 120x38 Panaflos eons ago for what many guys pay for weak in the knees but quiet Noctuas and they still out perform most modern fans, and I probably have another 10 years left with them.. been running since 2006 or so. They aren't pretty to most, and they are loud AF at full speed.

The most wiser choice ever, I did that too with a single 2600 rpm 120x38, and set this down to 1500rpm fixed.
All performance and zero noise.

You have no idea about BOM costs of products being developed, nor the tooling to do so.

As industrial electrician I have plenty of good ideas of what a factory will use so to cut or perform machinist work over all type of metals.
What you are unfamiliar with and you are not alone, this is their production rate in a single hour.
You are welcome.

 

[sneekypeet]

The most wiser choice ever, I did that too with a single 2600 rpm 120x38, and set this down to 1500rpm fixed.
All performance and zero noise.



As industrial electrician I have plenty of good ideas of what a factory will use so to cut or perform machinist work over all type of metals.
What you are unfamiliar with and you are not alone, this is their production rate in a single hour.
You are welcome.

Thank you for proving you had no idea what you are talking about. Cheers.

 

[kiriakost]

Thank you for proving you had no idea what you are talking about. Cheers.

No offense taken for a very simple reason, they will never present a factory tour video, so the people to see how things are made today.

 

[sneekypeet]

No offense taken for a very simple reason, they will never present a factory tour video, so the people to see how things are made today.

Again, thank you for skirting around my previous points with jibberish.

Fyi, Google is your friend to find factory videos for case manufacturers as well as cooler manufactuters.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Reply to all three members asking for clarifications.
Computing has nothing to do with water cooling madness, this is a fake need and smartly implanted at young people heads so the makers of such parts to get their money.
The same goes for the six or eight fans PC tower. ( Another myth so this to be consumed by Gamers ).
Since the moment that an idiot designer decided to place the PSU at the bottom of a case, the on board DC fan become crippled about this helping at airflow, and it become instead a vacuum cleaner, sucking air and dust from the bottom of the case in to the PSU compartement.

Today that robotic arms do all the work the price of pipe fitting this is no more than 0.30 USD Cent, but the price as new this presented to be 12 or 16 USD.
This market it is heavily twisted, and especially the product reviewers they are obligated to assist consumers about them making more reasonable choices.

Extreme water cooling solutions, RGB fans, the six or eight fans PC tower, all are sort lived fashions, which they will move away soon.
This is my thinking, do not try to debate, just reject it if you disagree, but in case that you do disagree? Just ask your own self of what is the resale value of all such fancy items as used?
If you make the mistake paying 25$ for a single fan by eight times, how much they worth if you sale them as used ? I am predicting 60% loss of your money.

Re selling a used fan , I throw them away or give them away simple.
RGB is what it is.
As for watercooled PC's not being required, for your needs/perspective, probably not no.
For many others ,me, thankfully they exist.

 

[Valantar]

No offense taken for a very simple reason, they will never present a factory tour video, so the people to see how things are made today.

You don't follow GamersNexus then. This should keep you occupied for a few days. Have fun:

Factory Tours

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

 

[rtwjunkie]

I had that exact case once. Grew to absolutely hate it. The airflow path is terrible (single front intake fan on the HDD cage, four side intake fans, top ... exhaust? and rear exhaust?), the side fan bracket/door impede AIC height and unless you cable manage your butt off with easily accessible extenders to discaonnect the fans is a massive hassle when working in the case, the case is generally cramped and difficult to access despite being huge, and the HDD bay is poorly thought out at best. Build quality was okay, but the doors were rattly and thin aluminium. Quite noisy for its cooling performance. And so. Much. Wasted. Space. Couldn't be happier that I got rid of it - I couldn't imagine building a somewhat modern system in that monstrosity.

I agree on all those points. It looked awesome, and was the size of a large suitcase. And for all that, it had no space behind the motherboard tray. Cable management was a nightmare. Finally GAVE it away, with the stipulation they couldn’t give it back!

 

[Toothless]

Delta finger remover installed, just gotta find one of my dust filters or grills.