TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[phill]

Okay so summer in Japan is officially over!
And thus, im slowly getting back on the leaderboard
I have my main warming up already, while slowly -during upcoming week ish- I will be bringing my designated rigs online as well!
Hope to crunch my way back up top 10 soon!

If it gets too cold here, I might be having to leave a few things on .... lol I hope I can keep up @Lorec

 

[stinger608]

So, I scored a sweet deal on a B350 AMD board from our own @Durvelle27

First AMD board I've had in a long time. Last one I think was the crappy FX processor board. Been Intel since then.

My big question is this: Which will produce more work units? The 2700X or a 3600? The 2700X is an 8 core/16 thread vs the 3600 that is 6 core/12 thread.

This board will be mainly used for crunching with a little gaming when the grandson comes over.

So naturally I would like to seek the chip out that will produce better numbers.

 

[Lorec]

So, I scored a sweet deal on a B350 AMD board from our own @Durvelle27

First AMD board I've had in a long time. Last one I think was the crappy FX processor board. Been Intel since then.

My big question is this: Which will produce more work units? The 2700X or a 3600? The 2700X is an 8 core/16 thread vs the 3600 that is 6 core/12 thread.

This board will be mainly used for crunching with a little gaming when the grandson comes over.

So naturally I would like to seek the chip out that will produce better numbers.

2700x
More threads more WUs hands down.
I would recommend actually 1700 or 2700, as they are more power efficient while being still 8c16t.
PS: also If You want go for quantity just do mainly MCMs, Ryzen likes them.

 

[phill]

So, I scored a sweet deal on a B350 AMD board from our own @Durvelle27

First AMD board I've had in a long time. Last one I think was the crappy FX processor board. Been Intel since then.

My big question is this: Which will produce more work units? The 2700X or a 3600? The 2700X is an 8 core/16 thread vs the 3600 that is 6 core/12 thread.

This board will be mainly used for crunching with a little gaming when the grandson comes over.

So naturally I would like to seek the chip out that will produce better numbers.

If you can, have a look at the numbers from the 3600, I think the performance might be quite close. If you can grab a 3700 or I think 3700X might be another option, I believe these CPUs are 65w as well but would deliver a load more performance. Maybe waiting till the newer series is out in a few weeks to nab a cheap new one??

 

[stevorob]

Well, I believe I am back from my hiatus. Took a break last summer, then life happened.

Turned up one of the crunchers I had in storage (it booted right up after over a year!) and my 3900x is going while I'm not using it.

I've got a small surprise coming in the next week or 2 that should add a good chunk of points

 

[stinger608]

Welcome back @stevorob

Yep, I know how life can get in the way. Hell, I pretty much took a year off as well.

 

[phill]

Great to see you back @stevorob !! I hope everything is going well!

 

[Nordic]

I have been playing with the new Clock Tuner for Ryzen, found here. With it I have found that I can undervolt to 1.25v from auto and achieve a 6% increase in performance and a 3% decrease in power used. I could also undervolt to 1.15v and achieve a 2% increase in performance and a 23% decrease in power. I am not gaming as much this year, nor am I really needing cpu performance. I think a 23% decrease in power used sounds really nice. What do you think?

If I have done my math right, that 23%, or about 33 watts, amounts to about $2.5 saved a month.

 

[phill]

For me, crunching WCG or folding or even mining, I always had one thing in mind, efficiency.

To me, there's no point screaming the CPU to within an inch of its life if temps, volts etc. are all so high that they are nearly hitting the limits (as an example). So whilst I was mining, I'd underclock, undervolt and I'd turn a 1200w heater into a 700w heater which used to give me 85% ish I think of what 1200w would give me (might be slightly less I don't think it matters so much for the example) so the system was doing what it needed too and I was saving money whilst doing it.

Same for me applies to WCG or FAH. Turn down the power, let it crunch away happily at lower speeds, have the temps chilled and still feel great about the fact your doing good for hopefully someone, some day It's how I do it and I don't think it has harmed me just yet I think I'm not far from yourself with the voltages etc, I'm running 1.1vcore (I think??!) and it's sitting around the 4GHz mark, which works for me, perfectly fine

If I was able to get it to run faster with 1v I would, that was just trickling the power at 160w, where I think now, I'm a little over 200w but the points per day have increased somewhat Even having solar panels, I make sure things run efficiently as they can

 

[Lorec]

So I saw this thing in my local PC parts shop. I checked AMD site and there is no info about this!? Staff told me that this BULK sold cpu was released last week... I heard nothing.
Its a 12c24t with a 65W TDP R9 3900... This will be new crunching king no less!
The price though, 54000円 just barely less than full fledged 3900x
EDIT: it literally comes as is!

 

[mstenholm]

So I saw this thing in my local PC parts shop. I checked AMD site and there is no info about this!? Staff told me that this BULK sold cpu was released last week... I heard nothing.
Its a 12c24t with a 65W TDP R9 3900... This will be new crunching king no less!
The price though, 54000円 just barely less than full fledged 3900x
EDIT: it literally comes as is!

Yes there is - 3900 with lower base and boost clock

Edit: I assume that the 3900 and the PRO 3900 are the same CPU.

 

[Lorec]

Yes there is - 3900 with lower base and boost clock

Edit: I assume that the 3900 and the PRO 3900 are the same CPU.

Oh! Okay, well they didnt promote it as PRO so I thought it's something else.
Anyhow, whats Your thoughts on it? @mstenholm, i think it could easily replace any 1700/2700...

 

[mstenholm]

Oh! Okay, well they didnt promote it as PRO so I thought it's something else.
Anyhow, whats Your thoughts on it? @mstenholm, i think it could easily replace any 1700/2700...

The 3.1 MHz base clock is to low to my taste. I rather pay slightly more for a 3900X and underclock it to my liking . That said it will run circles around a 1700/2700, even a 2700X for less electrical consumption.

 

[bogmali]

Going to be switching my 3 rigs to folding this weekend......spreading the DC love

 

[XZero450]

Oh! Okay, well they didnt promote it as PRO so I thought it's something else.
Anyhow, whats Your thoughts on it? @mstenholm, i think it could easily replace any 1700/2700...

Supposedly, it will turbo up to very near 3900X levels and produce less heat while doing so.. The few reviews out there have suggested that if AMD released this chip to retail, it would be THE chip to buy.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

it would be THE chip to buy.

Yep!

So, how many of you just did an E-Bay search? Hmm?

 

[phill]

Not yet!! But I'm toying with the idea!! That said, just lower the VCore and the watts will drop and the CPU won't boost as far.. These AMD CPUs are amazing

 

[Nordic]

Over the last 6 days of uninterrupted crunching, my 3900x has produced an average of 27,841 ppd. I did 6 days average because I am about to interrupt my crunching for other activities. That is not bad. Not bad at all.

 

[mstenholm]

Over the last 6 days of uninterrupted crunching, my 3900x has produced an average of 27,841 ppd. I did 6 days average because I am about to interrupt my crunching for other activities. That is not bad. Not bad at all.

46.075 seven-day average for mine....Linux
23 threads btw and MCM1 beta pulling the average down.

 

[Nordic]

Linux always did perform better for crunching.

 

[HammerON]

My two 3900X are getting about 30,000 per day on Windows. Might have to switch one over to Linux...

 

[mstenholm]

My two 3900X are getting about 30,000 per day on Windows. Might have to switch one over to Linux...

Run SCC, the rest is more or less the same for Linux and Windows. I have no solid proof for that statement but give it a try.

 

[Nordic]

The instructions here should be a little out of date, but should work alright still.

Crunching on Linux Tips, Tricks, and Useful Hints

My purpose in making this thread, is to share some information I have been gathering on how to potentially obtain better WCG performance from linux. I have been messing around with a few things, and have realized there are better ways to benchmark and test. It would also be better to share as I...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[HammerON]

I am not too worried about points. I kind of like it spread out across projects.

 

[ChristTheGreat]

Started back my rig for the winter (Summer was too hot, I don't have the AC going to my office).

3700x running 100% while not gaming.