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AMD Launches AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Desktop Processors: The Fastest Gaming CPUs in the World

Boost clocks on the 5800X and 3800XT are the same.

Thats a shame.

I get the IPC increase, but a little disappointing.
The same 7nm is the reason, they're not even using N7P & considering that it's a hell of a boost!
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I am VERY VERY VERY disappointed on the new pricing. It is clear that without competition, the consumer is fked. I started building a new PC some time ago, buying some parts every month in expectation of the new Ryzen 5000 - I bought the new B550 also - now I'm sorry I did that, seeing the new prices. Indeed Intel sucks for keeping the 14 nm++++ so much but, right now, with the new pricing, AMD has become the new Intel. Sad. Very sad.
Just hope that the RDNA2 GPU will be price accordingly - 400-450$... Sad times, companies sucking money out of consumers like this....

I mostly agree with you and I am getting sick and tired of the total BS of market speak trying to push product. I know that the majority of the silicon WILL NOT REACH the sustained rates stated. Only the cherry picked silicon will hit those numbers. So expect those maximum number printed on the packaging to be down a few hundred hertz.... OR has people already forgotten the lies of last generation about their performance speed.

I still have my packaging for my 3600 stating that it will hit 4.3 ghz.... It never went over 4.1 or higher on my rig. AMD Lied to me about the performance increase of last generation of CPU. Just remember that a lot of this is just market speak and unless you win the silicon lottery, your results will vary.
 
So the cynical folk who predicted that the 5900X would be a power-hungry overheating pile with a 150W TDP that AMD simply overclocked to reach 5.0GHz were.....what's the word.....WRONG.
 
Hm, seems like the shoe might be on the other foot with AMD vs Intel.

Let me see if I can switch my arguments.

So, is it really worth it to spend an extra $100 on AMD for 1-2 fps? Intel is good enough and is a better price/performance ratio, nobody will notice those 2 fps.

How am I doing?
 
So AMD has nothing to challenge Intel and Nvidia with 4k gaming. Disappointed.
Hasty assumptions. The numbers shown are strong indication of that GPU being very close to 3080. Check that the numbers shown were on ultra 4K.
 
Hm, seems like the shoe might be on the other foot with AMD vs Intel.

Let me see if I can switch my arguments.

So, is it really worth it to spend an extra $100 on AMD for 1-2 fps? Intel is good enough and is a better price/performance ratio, nobody will notice those 2 fps.

How am I doing?

You're not doing it correctly yet.

Start with the proposition that 10-core / 20-threads is going to be superior for productivity at the $450 price point compared to the 8c/16t 5800x. THEN you talk down the gaming FPS numbers.
 
Hasty assumptions. The numbers shown are strong indication of that GPU being very close to 3080. Check that the numbers shown were on ultra 4K.

I hope I'm wrong and you are right. Unless AMD is holding their cards close to their chest before launch.
 
I mostly agree with you and I am getting sick and tired of the total BS of market speak trying to push product. I know that the majority of the silicon WILL NOT REACH the sustained rates stated. Only the cherry picked silicon will hit those numbers. So expect those maximum number printed on the packaging to be down a few hundred hertz.... OR has people already forgotten the lies of last generation about their performance speed.

I still have my packaging for my 3600 stating that it will hit 4.3 ghz.... It never went over 4.1 or higher on my rig. AMD Lied to me about the performance increase of last generation of CPU. Just remember that a lot of this is just market speak and unless you win the silicon lottery, your results will vary.
I guess you're not aware that all of that was fixed after about six months worth of UEFI and AGESA updates? Ignorance is bliss...
 
I am planning a complete upgrade for year's end, and hoped there will be a new chipset for Zen 3, likely a x670. Somewhat disappointed about this, but I read somewhere that vendors may release refreshed motherboard models for these new CPUs. Intel seems to be releasing a new one on Q1 2021, but I don't want to wait that much! I will be switching to AMD platform mostly for PCie 4 storage speeds.
 
I know the way forward for a CPU upgrade..... :)
 
I am VERY VERY VERY disappointed on the new pricing. It is clear that without competition, the consumer is fked. I started building a new PC some time ago, buying some parts every month in expectation of the new Ryzen 5000 - I bought the new B550 also - now I'm sorry I did that, seeing the new prices. Indeed Intel sucks for keeping the 14 nm++++ so much but, right now, with the new pricing, AMD has become the new Intel. Sad. Very sad.
Just hope that the RDNA2 GPU will be price accordingly - 400-450$... Sad times, companies sucking money out of consumers like this....

Why do so many people expect AMD, and no other company, to be a charity and just give away products?
 
@phill cryptic , love it.
If anything like my r3 3300x trend wise , all core oc 100mhz above rated core performance boost @ stock cooler, then an r5 5600x might suit the itchy upgrade ocd of mine.
 
It’s a shame they couldn’t hit the 5.0ghz barrier. You know the engineers probably wanted to get there in the worst way. I’m guessing these will behave like 3000 series, where they will reach max clocks better on their own boosting algorithm and there won’t be any overclocking. It’s not a bad showing by any means—the design changes and IPC uplift are something to be proud of, and the power consumption sounds like it’s going to be so much better. And all this on the same 7nm node. I know these aren’t reviews, but I’d be surprised if the benchmarks they posted couldn’t be reproduced. Just makes me wonder what GPU they were using. :)
 
Not bad AMD... not bad.
 
Will they finally supporting XMP from RAM's ? Because AMD was and is now still is a disaster on XMP memory modules.
 
Will they finally supporting XMP from RAM's ? Because AMD was and is now still is a disaster on XMP memory modules.
I turn on XMP in my bios, and it works. I'm pretty sure it works for most people.
 
Where is the 5700X tho
 
Because AMD was and is now still is a disaster on XMP memory modules.
No, no they're not. Yes AMD support a lower overall RAM speed than Intel CPU's but buying a suitable kit when building a PC should be the same as any other expensive purchase you make, you research what you are buying and don't just throw money at it cause "dats the fastest and mostest xpensivvvv/cheapest so it must be de besssssttt" :kookoo: XMP is an intel technology and whilst it is good and all, if you don't do some basic homework on what parts you're buying and if they're compatible, how is that down to AMD? for AMD there are recommended kits of DDR4 RAM and tested kits for each and every motherboard that you can buy, but as we see with all the "My Ryzen motherboard doesn't run my RAM at their rated speed" threads people don't do that, they buy a CPU and motherboard and any old RAM they feel like throwing in there without doing so much of a smidgeon of googling about compatibility and complain when it doesn't work right. The fact that AMD motherboards support XMP is a plus point, but building a PC is not the same as building a lego set and if you have little experience in doing so but just wanted to try after watching 1 YouTube video on "how easy" it is then you really should stump up the extra $50/$100 bucks to get someone or a company who has the required knowledge and experience to do it for you and then just use your consumer rights to return it and get it sorted instead of wondering why your Corsair LPX 3200 won't run at it's rated speed on your Ryzen build.
 
So the same discussions about "how x company would hike their prices when the time is right for them" everytime a launch happens. Enterprises are enterprises and in capitalism the bottom line is profit, stop investing sentimentally in companies or justifying them. They are not your friends nor do this for good will, they want your money and put themselves in a position where they can earn more money.
 
Where is the 5700X tho

I guess amd wanted a large margin this time but I think they made it wrong, it could have a 5700 which would be a 8 core and then a 5800 as 10 core cpu. They lost this opportunity. So would be 5600 6 core, 5700 8 cores, 5800 10 cores and 5900 12 cores and 5950 16 cores.
 
Given these new prices, the most interesting comparisons for typical builds becomes the 5600X vs 10700 (non K), and the 5800X vs the 10900K.

That will be an interesting comparison.

It seems Intel may not have anything to compete directly with a 5900X, assuming those benchmarks are representative of overall performance.
 
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