Looking for information on an OEM SSD...

[trparky]

I'm looking for specifications for an OEM SSD that's only identified by CrystalDiskInfo as KINGSTON RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1. Anyone have any clue what this is? I've searched and haven't come up with much of anything, my Google skills have failed me.

 

[INSTG8R]

I mean I got some results but Kingston has this to "decode" the serial number

Kingston SSD Part Number Decoder - Kingston Technology

Identify Kingston® Solid-State Drives (SSDs) attributes by their part number. While this is a representation of a majority of Kingston Solid-State Drives, naming conventions may vary.

www.kingston.com

And a few random Ebay listings and some benchmarks

Kingston Rbu-sns8154p3256gj1 256gb PCIe NVMe M.2 2280 SSD for sale online | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Kingston Rbu-sns8154p3256gj1 256gb PCIe NVMe M.2 2280 SSD at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

 

[Ahhzz]

I'm looking for specifications for an OEM SSD that's only identified by CrystalDiskInfo as KINGSTON RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1. Anyone have any clue what this is? I've searched and haven't come up with much of anything, my Google skills have failed me.

kingston rbu-sns8154p3/256gj specs - Google Search

 

[trparky]

Ok, we’re getting somewhere. Now to track down if this is a TLC or a QLC drive.

 

[newtekie1]

Ok, we’re getting somewhere. Now to track down if this is a TLC or a QLC drive.

It looks like it uses the Phison PS5008-E8 controller, which is a TLC controller.

 

[Athlonite]

Have you tried the SMI NVMe ID program it may give you better results as to what Controller and Nand flash is on the SSD

 

[QuietBob]

Here's the link: SMI NVME SSD flash id v0.23a (scroll down for download)

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[silentbogo]

It's an OEM version of A1000. Specs should be the same. Just a regular run-of-the-mill low budget 3D TLC NVME drive.
Try SMI tool that QuietBob posted above. If it's PS5008-E8, then that's it.

 

[trparky]

Good, it's not a QLC drive; it's just a low-end piece of crap SSD that's thrown in by the OEMs. I have it in my Acer notebook and I wanted to know more about it.

 

[newtekie1]

Good, it's not a QLC drive; it's just a low-end piece of crap SSD that's thrown in by the OEMs. I have it in my Acer notebook and I wanted to know more about it.

I'm not sure what makes it low end or a piece of crap. It's TLC, it isn't DRAMless, and it's NVMe. Seems like a perfectly decent SSD.

 

[trparky]

It doesn't seem like it has the same durability that my Samsung 970 EVO has. Am I comparing apples to oranges here?

 

[newtekie1]

It doesn't seem like it has the same durability that my Samsung 970 EVO has. Am I comparing apples to oranges here?

Other than for warranty purposes, the rated durability doesn't really mean anything. And since the OEM drive doesn't have a warranty the durability ratings mean even less.

And, yeah I'd expect the 970 Evo to have a higher TBW, it's an overpriced SSD, you better be getting something for that wasted money. No one is going to hit the TBW max on their drive under normal use anyway. People way overestimate how much data they write to their SSD.

 

[silentbogo]

It doesn't seem like it has the same durability that my Samsung 970 EVO has. Am I comparing apples to oranges here?

Something like that. All that SSD is meant to do is survive that laughable 12mo warranty coverage, which now every OEM seems to provide.
It's not the best performing unit, but it's NVME and it's still adequate for most use cases (especially for a laptop).

 

[Athlonite]

Atleast it's NVMe and not an M.2 SATA SSD so there's that

 

[newtekie1]

Something like that. All that SSD is meant to do is survive that laughable 12mo warranty coverage, which now every OEM seems to provide.
It's not the best performing unit, but it's NVME and it's still adequate for most use cases (especially for a laptop).

It's an A1000, the TBW on the 256GB version is like 150TBW. That isn't anything you'll reach in just a year, it isn't anything you're likely to reach in 5 years.

 

[ThrashZone]

It doesn't seem like it has the same durability that my Samsung 970 EVO has. Am I comparing apples to oranges here?

Hi,
You can always replace it with which ever m.2 you want later.
Just keep lots of system images on removable hdd's restore one to a new m.2 with cd/ usb winpe recovery media.

 

[silentbogo]

It's an A1000, the TBW on the 256GB version is like 150TBW. That isn't anything you'll reach in just a year, it isn't anything you're likely to reach in 5 years.

I was talking about "apples to oranges".
Also, with Kingston, the least of your fears is exceeding TBW. It'll more likely die from controller failure or corrupt firmware.

 

[trparky]

It'll more likely die from controller failure or corrupt firmware.

Oh lovely.

You can always replace it with which ever m.2 you want later.

Yeah, I get that. I just need to get myself an iFixIt kit with the plastic shim thingies to be able to crack the notebook up. Something about not ruining my fingernails.

Just keep lots of system images on removable hdd's restore one to a new m.2 with cd/ usb winpe recovery media.

Oh, I do. Macrium Reflect is a godsend in this situation.

 

[silentbogo]

Yeah, I get that. I just need to get myself an iFixIt kit with the plastic shim thingies to be able to crack the notebook up. Something about not ruining my fingernails.

Why? I usually get a bagful of cheap Chinese guitar picks. Something like $2-2.50 $1 for a dozen (apparently it got helluvalot cheaper since last year) gives me a yearly supply of opening trinkets, even in my semi-kinda-professional environment.
Plus, you can use them to play guitar or balalaika (aka Slavic banjo)

 

[newtekie1]

I was talking about "apples to oranges".
Also, with Kingston, the least of your fears is exceeding TBW. It'll more likely die from controller failure or corrupt firmware.

That's true of any SSD though. The NAND usually doesn't wear out, the controller dies. It isn't really any more common with Kingston drives, especially not the ones using the reference Phison design with limited write speeds like this drive.

 

[silentbogo]

It isn't really any more common with Kingston drives, especially not the ones using the reference Phison design with limited write speeds like this drive.

Oh... kingston always manages to beat even old reference Phison designs in terms of shitty reliability. Especially with S11-based SATA drives. Even the cheapest of the cheap drives on the exact same arch managed to outlive most low-budget Kingston. And I mean bottom-of-the-barrel SSD brands like Patriot, Goodram, AMD , or even weird ones like Leven, King[insert chinese word here], or whatever crap canadian techtubers like to test.
That's why I dumped them as a brand nearly 7 years ago, after 100% failure rate of my personal flash drives and SSDs, even before warranty expired. Our local Kingston reps only made things worse by blaming it on my PSU.

 

[Ahhzz]

Guys, Topic. Please stick to it

 

[trparky]

Lock it down @Ahhzz, I have my answer.

 

[ThrashZone]

Oh lovely.

Yeah, I get that. I just need to get myself an iFixIt kit with the plastic shim thingies to be able to crack the notebook up. Something about not ruining my fingernails.

Oh, I do. Macrium Reflect is a godsend in this situation.

Hi,
If you didn't know already
You can create system images with the winpe recovery media too I personally believe they are more reliable this way too
I've had system images fail to recover doing it in the os before but never ones created using winpe media while os is not in use.

Only quirk is you need to create a folder in advance to put the system image in.

 

[Ahhzz]

Thread locked per OP request. thanks guys!