Best Bang For Your Buck Using An Intel Processor.

[Mr Bill]

Thinking about a new build, I not interested in the generation, just performance. I like the i7 4790k it's been a great processor. I haven't had time to keep up with any of the generations since the 4th generation, "I still have to work for a living" I'm not a gamer, but I do like to watch YouTube videos in 4K, so maybe I should invest in a video card instead, I just do know where to go from here. Yes, I know what I have should be fine, but don't we all sometimes get the itch for a new build? I'm not looking for a build to send a spaceship to Pluto, or a Motherboard with all the bells and whistles, just a few Bells would be good. Just looking for some advise to get the best bang for the buck in the 21st century.

 

[Ruru]

I'd go for AMD myself but if you want Intel, people say that 10400F is fine. Still would go for 10600KF tho as it's overclockable and it's basically the same as 8700K. Tho you'll need a GPU of some sort with the F SKUs as their iGPU is disabled.

 

[Jose Jeswin]

Will a ryzen 5 3600 with an asus b550 wifi motherboard 2x8 gb ddr4 ram,amd radeon rx 570 and a 500 gb nvme drive be enough?

 

[GerKNG]

Enough said.
and it doesn't needs a trillion beta bioses to not crash at idle, it runs a LOT cooler and yeah. the price.

i saw a 10400f (open box) for 99€ as well.

 

[Chomiq]

Will a ryzen 5 3600 with an asus b550 wifi motherboard 2x8 gb ddr4 ram,amd radeon rx 570 and a 500 gb nvme drive be enough?

"Best Bang For Your Buck Using An Intel Processor."

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10400

I'm not a gamer, but I do like to watch YouTube videos in 4K, so maybe I should invest in a video card instead, I just do know where to go from here.

Now's a terrible time to buy any GPU and you don't need anything super powerful for youtube playback at 4K, I think that 10400 (non-F, because F lacks dedicated GPU) should handle this easily and that way you could just buy a dedicated GPU later.

Throw in some B460 board with video out, a basic 2x8 GB 2666 kit of memory and you're solid.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Well, sadly, you get a F due to a score of 50 in providing necessary information. The number 1 rule when asking for advice is to tell us the intended purpose, and you did that but we you also need to provide a budget, which you didn't.

I think it sad the first two replies are immediate pushes for AMDs when you have clearly expressed interest in Intel. Can we keep the biases out of it?

@Mr Bill - a couple questions for clarification. Are you looking to upgrade your current processor and staying with your current motherboard? If so, then clearly you need to check your motherboard's QVL (assuming the board in your specs) and one of the processors it supports.

Or, are you upgrading your entire platform (new motherboard, CPU and RAM)? Note if upgrading to a new motherboard, you most likely need to include a new Windows license in your budget since a new motherboard constitutes a new computer.

If upgrading just the CPU, that might also leave room in the budget for a nicer graphics card. Just remember, GPUs are often the most power hungry devices in our systems so make sure your PSU is up to it. Again, if the one in your system specs, I doubt there will be any issues there.

 

[Ruru]

I think it sad the first two replies are immediate pushes for AMDs when you have clearly expressed interest in Intel. Can we keep the biases out of it?

I think you have a problem reading what I posted, I said that I'd personally go for AMD, but I recommended two Intel chips just as the OP asked.

 

[Mr Bill]

Well, sadly, you get a F due to a score of 50 in providing necessary information. The number 1 rule when asking for advice is to tell us the intended purpose, and you did that but we you also need to provide a budget, which you didn't.

I think it sad the first two replies are immediate pushes for AMDs when you have clearly expressed interest in Intel. Can we keep the biases out of it?

@Mr Bill - a couple questions for clarification. Are you looking to upgrade your current processor and staying with your current motherboard? If so, then clearly you need to check your motherboard's QVL (assuming the board in your specs) and one of the processors it supports.

Or, are you upgrading your entire platform (new motherboard, CPU and RAM)? Note if upgrading to a new motherboard, you most likely need to include a new Windows license in your budget since a new motherboard constitutes a new computer.

If upgrading just the CPU, that might also leave room in the budget for a nicer graphics card. Just remember, GPUs are often the most power hungry devices in our systems so make sure your PSU is up to it. Again, if the one in your system specs, I doubt there will be any issues there.

Well I'll have to get back to you, I haven't had enough coffee this morning to figure out all you asked, and please forgive me, I didn't know anything about the number 1 rule, I'm an A/C and Heating Tech.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Fair enough. But I don't see how it really matters. The OP asked for advice about Intels. And again, we don't know if upgrading the CPU for that Intel based board, or if going with a full platform change.

I didn't know anything about the number 1 rule, I'm an A/C and Heating Tech.

LOL - No problem. My coffee hasn't fully kicked in yet either.

To add to what I said earlier, if you are upgrading your entire platform, your old supports DDR3 memory. New boards (and processors) support DDR4. That's a good thing in terms of performance, but obviously means you cannot carry the old RAM over to the new board.

 

[Ruru]

we don't know if upgrading the CPU for that Intel based board

That's practically impossible as i7-4790K is the fastest CPU for LGA1150. I don't count i7-5775C as it's not worth it and it's rare as hell.

 

[Chomiq]

How's GTX 1030 dealing with youtube video playback @ 4K?

 

[Bill_Bright]

That's practically impossible as i7-4790K is the fastest CPU for LGA1150. I don't count i7-5775C as it's not worth it and it's rare as hell.

Yeah, I agree. A better upgrade for the least amount of money might be a new graphics card. But if we are talking about the system listed in the System Specs, the whole system appears to be getting long in the tooth.

And since there appears to be no immediate rush (the system is currently working fine), with the information we have so far, I'm thinking it might be best to build up the budget and go for a whole new system to carry Mr Bill even further through the 21st Century.

 

[Ruru]

How's GTX 1030 dealing with youtube video playback @ 4K?

I had a GT 1030 last year and after I overclocked it to its limits, even some gaming was perfectly fine with it. So it will most definitely run yt @ 4K.

 

[Mr Bill]

I don't count i7-5775C as it's not worth it and it's rare as hell.

I agree, for what that processor costs, you could build a new 11 gen machine.

 

[Mr Bill]

I'm thinking it might be best to build up the budget and go for a whole new system to carry Mr Bill even further through the 21st Century.

That's what I'm thinking. We're about to go into our summer season here in Houston, beginning around the middle of April, us A/C techs go into the Work, Eat and Sleep mode here for months, this is why I was considering a new build now, but I am a pretty patient person.

 

[Bill_Bright]

but I am a pretty patient person.

I would just suggest you don't get into the mode of waiting to see what's just around the corner. That's because, there is always something bigger, faster, better just around the corner. So I say, build up your budget, then just pull the trigger when ready to buy.

In the meantime, make sure you have a current backup of your data.

 

[newtekie1]

For what you are doing, a 10400(non-F) will do just fine. the iGPU can handle 4k Youtube just fine, you don't need a dedicated GPU for what you are looking to do. It's 6-cores and will last for your purposes a long time.

 

[Ruru]

I would just suggest you don't get into the mode of waiting to see what's just around the corner. That's because, there is always something bigger, faster, better just around the corner. So I say, build up your budget, then just pull the trigger when ready to buy.

Though at least that works for once for graphics cards when the situation is what it is.

 

[Bill_Bright]

It works for everything - next gen processors, next gen graphics, next gen USB, next gen PCIe. next gen RAM, etc. etc. There is always the next generation of something in development.

 

[Ruru]

It works for everything - next gen processors, next gen graphics, next gen USB, next gen PCIe. next gen RAM, etc. etc. There is always the next generation of something in development.

What I meant for waiting with graphics card is that

a) the prices are more than insane
b) the availability is practically non-existing even if you're ready to pay those prices

 

[Vario]

Thinking about a new build, I not interested in the generation, just performance. I like the i7 4790k it's been a great processor. I haven't had time to keep up with any of the generations since the 4th generation, "I still have to work for a living" I'm not a gamer, but I do like to watch YouTube videos in 4K, so maybe I should invest in a video card instead, I just do know where to go from here. Yes, I know what I have should be fine, but don't we all sometimes get the itch for a new build? I'm not looking for a build to send a spaceship to Pluto, or a Motherboard with all the bells and whistles, just a few Bells would be good. Just looking for some advise to get the best bang for the buck in the 21st century.

If it were me I'd go to something more modern than 4790K such as Coffeelake or better or Ryzen, the X5670 you use now isn't much different from any other Intel pre-Skylake. The 10400 is a good choice, similar to 8700K if you need a reference point.

For graphics, try getting a 1050, they are around the same price as the 1030 but much more powerful.

 

[Cowboystrekk]

If you can game on a low settings I would consider i5 11500 and a B560 MB. The igpu is similar to 1030 in perf, B560 supports 4000+ ram so you can do a bit of oc and improve igpu and cpu perf quite a bit. Don't go for the i5 11400 if you want igpu/rocket lake as the igpu is weaker vs 11500.

 

[crispysilicon]

That's practically impossible as i7-4790K is the fastest CPU for LGA1150. I don't count i7-5775C as it's not worth it and it's rare as hell.

That's sort of true at this point. The 5775C's themselves are, but the mobile chips are great too.

Pardon Our Interruption...

Company in HK takes the BGA versions and mods for use in S1150.

And yes, you should invest in a cheap video card. Broadwell had a decent iGPU, but driver support is garbage, no DCH drivers. No forward support.

Otherwise, if you want to build a new machine, newer iGPUs will decode 4k just fine.

 

[Mr Bill]

Lot of good advice and I appreciate it. The reason I chose Intel is, I've always used Intel processors, and had a great experience with all of them. I guess it's like the iPhone vs the Android, I've always used the iPhone, it's always been great, I have always bought Samsung TV's, GMC Trucks, I figure if something been working for you, why change.

 

[phanbuey]

right now the intel 10 cores are unbeatable $/performance - and the platform is very mature, no issues wit my build (apart from the ones I cause myself by pushing my DDr4 3200 sticks to DDR4400)

Amazon.com: Intel Core i9-10900F Desktop Processor 10 Cores up to 5.2 GHz Without Processor Graphics LGA 1200 (Intel 400 Series chipset) 65W: Computers & Accessories

10900F for $360.... set infinite boost limits in bios and there you go....
slap it on one of these:

Intel Core i9-10850K 3.6 GHz Ten-Core LGA 1200 BX8070110850K B&H (bhphotovideo.com)- $399....

MSI PRO Z490-A PRO LGA 1200 ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com $169 ---- set XMP on, put ram latency tuning on 'dynamic' and you're looking at low 40s ns in latency.

10 cores and a mobo for the price of a 11900K or 5900x (that goes for $750 at the moment)