LG to Close Mobile Phone Business Worldwide

[FreedomEclipse]

Otoh, I can't think of any other vendor that installs so many doppelganger apps and doesn't let you uninstall them.
Also, Idk whether I have hit a bug or this is by design, but every time I update an app that I have moved to SD, it comes back to the internal storage, so I have to move it again. Very, very frustrating UX.

Xiaomi for one. And i know this because i actually own one of their handsets. They got their own audio/video player, own web browser, own calendar... own lots of things that cant be uninstalled

 

[Durvelle27]

I'll miss them. I actually liked LG phones, They worked great for me. My favorite was the LG G8X ThinQ Dual Screen. One of the best phones I've ever owned.

 

[Krzych]

It is sad because for me LG has some strange habit of being the only one on the market to offer what I need without excessive overpricing at the same time, it was like that with the phone, TV and monitors, all of them with either no alternative or 50%+ more expensive alternative. But it is true that they haven't been in a very good shape on mobile phone market, for the most part they were just going with the stream and nobody needs yet another brand to copy the notch or whatever other stupid trend, there are enough of such brands and many can do it cheaper than LG. For major manufacturers it is either have your own design or get out, things like WING (that one is cool though) or throwing another random screen in the box are just too little too late.

 

[bug]

... For major manufacturers it is either have your own design or get out, things like WING (that one is cool though) or throwing another random screen in the box are just too little too late.

Funny thing is, you need even less than that. All you need is mid-range hardware with stock Android and timely updates. I guess LG is too much of a hardware company to go down that route.

 

[stimpy88]

Unless Samsung stops selling 200 "different" models of smartphones every year, this is the way the market will go.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Funny thing is, you need even less than that. All you need is mid-range hardware with stock Android and timely updates. I guess LG is too much of a hardware company to go down that route.

It's strange, isnt it? The enthusiast community has called for years for a sinsible midrange device with sensible software, and yet no company can seem to offer it without some major caveat. Google came the cosest with the pixel 4a, if only the battery wasnt so small (something google will never figure out, big battery=good).

It seems so simple, yet nobody has bothered trying it.

 

[Dristun]

It's strange, isnt it? The enthusiast community has called for years for a sinsible midrange device with sensible software, and yet no company can seem to offer it without some major caveat. Google came the cosest with the pixel 4a, if only the battery wasnt so small (something google will never figure out, big battery=good).

It seems so simple, yet nobody has bothered trying it.

My Nexus 5 was excellent and cheap (made by LG, coincidentally). As soon they switched to Pixel branding and hiked the price there was no road back. And "a"-pixels still cheaped out on too much compared to Nexus line, which was basically flagship in all senses except for plastic bodies.
Midrange chipsests in androids absolutely blow by the way. After Nexus 5 I switched to Sony X Compact because I like small phones. It had a 600-series snapdragon and 3 gigs of ram. By the end of year 2 I was getting driven insane by how laggy and slow everything felt, especially compared to my iPad and to a lesser degree compared to flagship chipset androids of the same year from literally any vendor that my friends had.
Now I have an iphone 12 mini because nobody in Android world makes small phones anymore.

 

[bug]

It's strange, isnt it? The enthusiast community has called for years for a sinsible midrange device with sensible software, and yet no company can seem to offer it without some major caveat. Google came the cosest with the pixel 4a, if only the battery wasnt so small (something google will never figure out, big battery=good).

It seems so simple, yet nobody has bothered trying it.

Such devices have always been offered (as my Nokia 8.1 will attest to). What companies have been unable to do is actually push them to the customers in any meaningful way. The spotlight is always on flagships which are both overpriced and overkill for the average user's needs.

 

[Supercrit]

Oh well, there goes a brand that offers models with phone jack and good DAC on top of SD card slot.

 

[JalleR]

Unfortunately, they won't be missed. The last noteworthy thing they did was the G2

So true.....

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

Haven't had a Samsung Phone since the Galaxy S3. I loathe their UI on top of Android.

Since ONE UI, Samsung software have been one of the better experience

 

[TheLostSwede]

It's strange, isnt it? The enthusiast community has called for years for a sinsible midrange device with sensible software, and yet no company can seem to offer it without some major caveat. Google came the cosest with the pixel 4a, if only the battery wasnt so small (something google will never figure out, big battery=good).

It seems so simple, yet nobody has bothered trying it.

Zenfone 6 is pretty close I'd say.
Then they went and ruined it with the 7.

Such devices have always been offered (as my Nokia 8.1 will attest to). What companies have been unable to do is actually push them to the customers in any meaningful way. The spotlight is always on flagships which are both overpriced and overkill for the average user's needs.

The 8 was one, but not the other 8 series models unfortunately, at least imho, as they trimmed too many features.

 

[Unter_Dog]

Why Samsung is competing in TV with LG? Because they know how to advertise their stuff on tv. People believe that QLED is better/superior than OLED even if QLED isnt close enough to OLED...

As someone who has had their wife burn a gen 2 OLED beyond fixing, QLED is the safer alternative. I do think OLED looks better, but I don't wanna be the TV police every day.

 

[Night]

No matter, the phone market is oversaturated, flagship sales are either Apple or Samsung. They'll focus and invest more in TVs, monitors and other appliances, as the panel makers.

 

[Mistral]

I had a V40, I now have a V50, and the wife is still refusing to let go of her V20. It's a shame LG's quitting the phone market. They dropped the ball on the support and marketing side, and I guess good hardware and features nowaday isn't enough, especially against subsidizes Chinese competitors.

Will probably still grab a cheap V60 from eBay at some point. I like great sound in my phones, and hardly anything can touch the V-series in that regard.

 

[evernessince]

Yeah let focus on making them sweet OLED panels.
Got my LG OLED CX recently and it's brilliant for gaming.

The CX is great except for input lag, 120 Hz refresh rate, and a high burn-in retention rate. Input lag wise the monitor is only as good as your typical non-gaming monitor. I don't know why LG doesn't release a gaming monitor containing their latest OLED tech. I believe they could lower the input lag and refresh rate in a small form factor product.

 

[bug]

The 8 was one, but not the other 8 series models unfortunately, at least imho, as they trimmed too many features.

Well, I didn't mean all worthy mid0rangers were provided by Nokia. Prior to my 8.1, I used to get my fix from Moto. After my 8.1, I probably won't buy Nokia again, since they got lazy with updates, but I'm sure I'll find another decent mid-ranger somewhere.

 

[R-T-B]

Unfortunately, they won't be missed. The last noteworthy thing they did was the G2

G3 was good too, but more iterative. Yeah, I feel you.

Input lag wise the monitor is only as good as your typical non-gaming monitor.

LG TVs actually have really excellent input lag, like gaming grade, unless something changed. Gaming mode on my b9 comes out to like 12-15ms input lag.

 

[evernessince]

LG TVs actually have really excellent input lag, like gaming grade, unless something changed. Gaming mode on my b9 comes out to like 12-15ms input lag.

12-15ms is office monitor. Gaming monitors have 1.5 - 5ms input lag nowadays. My Acer XF270HU is far from new and it has 5.20ms input lag.

 

[R-T-B]

Gaming monitors have 1.5 - 5ms input lag nowadays.

I suppose, but I think we are getting into diminishing returns. Of course that's the story with everything gaming.

The near perfect pixel response time is arguably more helpful imo, but your point is valid.

Edit: interestingly, lg oled 9series tvs can do 6ms input lag, but only in gsync mode according to rtings.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Unfortunately, they won't be missed. The last noteworthy thing they did was the G2

I agree, I owned one and yet is was plagued by GPS issues at the hardware level they refused to acknowledge. Their software support was abysmal and they even violated opens source policy by not making the kernel source code available. I have owned two other LG appliances and all failed prematurely, I will never buy any LG product ever gain, including their OLED TV's. They cannot be trusted and still have huge QC issues. Lucky Goldstar has not left the building.

 

[evernessince]

I suppose, but I think we are getting into diminishing returns. Of course that's the story with everything gaming.

The near perfect pixel response time is arguably more helpful imo, but your point is valid.

Edit: interestingly, lg oled 9series tvs can do 6ms input lag, but only in gsync mode according to rtings.

Yes, I saw that. You have to have it plugged into the right port as well and have to tweak some settings to ensure the TV isn't doing any post processing. Why restrict to GSync though? I have an Nvidia card and G-Sync capable monitor and even I leave it off.

 

[R-T-B]

Yes, I saw that. You have to have it plugged into the right port as well and have to tweak some settings to ensure the TV isn't doing any post processing. Why restrict to GSync though? I have an Nvidia card and G-Sync capable monitor and even I leave it off.

Oh I agree. It's a silly limitation.

 

[Ketadine]

I've had the G2, the G3, G6 and the V30. All good phones imo and each with a slightly different hardware focus. Other than the really slow software update cycle, I didn't really have any issues with the phones. Too bad.

 

[turbogear]

I feel sorry for those folks who will lose their jobs in these difficult times.
I was in the same boat in 2012 when Nokia closed their Symbian phone business.
At the location where I was working 700 high skilled hardware and software engineers lost their jobs at that day when the announcement was made.
Lucky for us was that many new companies came and took larger part of highly skilled work force and many of us did not need to relocate to other parts of country.