AMD has a big naming problem incoming, any thoughts on what they will do?

[Space Lynx]

Take a look at my System Specs under my profile name, or here:

The specific issue is going to be the CPU... with the previous RX 6800 gpu... its just very confusing, not confusing for us gamers and builders, but to the average consumer it will be. Do you think AMD will change the naming scheme in the future or no? @TheLostSwede

The GPU is also confusing a little, as its starting to get into the past a bit too much I feel like I remember an older gpu called a 7800? Maybe just bad memory I don't know. It's really the CPU though... I really wish they would just start naming things after animals or something. Ryzen Tiger 8-Core, Ryzen Lion 12-Core, a bit boring sure, but at least it doesn't give me a headache eh?

System Name	Paladin Endwalker
Processor	Ryzen 6800X 8-Core
Motherboard	AM5 x670
Cooling	Vetroo V5 (White with two fans in push/pull)
Memory	DDR5 --- 2x16gb (32gb)
Video Card(s)	RX 7800 XT
Display(s)	LG 42" 120hz 4K OLED
Case	Montech Air X (White)
Audio Device(s)	SennHD58X, Schiit Asgard 2 AMP, Modi 3 DAC
Power Supply	EVGA 700w Gold
Mouse	Razer Naga X (2021 Edition)
Keyboard	Logitech Cherry Mx Red
VR HMD	Valve Index 2 (TBD)
Software	WIndows 11 and Linux Mint (Dual Boot)

 

[hat]

Sure, we had Radeon 2k, 3k, 4k, 5k, 6k, and 7k until we went to, what, the R2x series? That's pretty ancient history though, and your average consumer doesn't care about that. They don't care about model numbers and specs, they just want to know if it will run their shit.

 

[Space Lynx]

Sure, we had Radeon 2k, 3k, 4k, 5k, 6k, and 7k until we went to, what, the R2x series? That's pretty ancient history though, and your average consumer doesn't care about that. They don't care about model numbers and specs, they just want to know if it will run their shit.

6800x cpu being right after a 6800 xt and non-xt gpu seems a bit confusing though no? the 7800 gpu not so much, I agree.

 

[Fourstaff]

Would be nice if they skip 6xxx, and go straight to 7xxx to match graphics. We will have RX 7xxx for graphics and, 7xxx for processors. I can't see them staying in sync for long periods though.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I think this is only a problem in the oem market and that has been a lost cause naming wise for almost a decade...... The Diy market it's a non issue because regardless of how clear naming is people who buy crap will buy crap anyway and those in the know it won't be an issue.

 

[Sybaris_Caesar]

I see no issue. Aren't Zen 4 CPUs gonna have iGPUs? Just name the product stack Ryzen 5/7/9 6*00G.

And no issue with GPUs either. 90% of the buyers are gonna Nvidia GPUs anyway.

Finally the biggest reason this is a non-issue is people're not gonna be able to buy any PC components for 3-4 years anyway. So why bother dreaming.

 

[ratirt]

I really don't see a problem here to be fair. CPUs and GPUs doesn't have to have similar numbers or naming since these are totally different things. I think the 'problem', if you can even call it that, is blown way out of proportions or even not really. There is no problem here.
Besides the 6800 GPU is RX 6800 and the processors will be 6800x and non-x. That is really not a problem unless you are a newbie in a tech and you take a CPU for a GPU which is like taking a horse for a cow.

 

[Athlonite]

Yeah if you can't tell the difference between a GPU and a CPU then perhaps you shouldn't ought to be building your own PC and as Hat said most people are dumb when it come to buying a PC or Laptop or Tablet they don't care about specs so much as more will it run my shit otherwise they just don't care enough to bother finding out what's good and what's not

 

[Flanker]

We already have 5700 5700XT and 5700G. I don't see many problems atm.

 

[eidairaman1]

You can say Nvidia has a big naming problem as well...

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[oxrufiioxo]

You can say Nvidia has a big naming problem as well...

This thread is spam

@lynx29 is just trying to win shit bro

jk but the thought does go through my head every time I see a thread like this.

 

[Vayra86]

Honestly, as long as the name includes an X, and preferably a few more X'es than that, apparently people think its fast.

More X more faster. Its really that simple. The numbers are irrelevant.

You can say Nvidia has a big naming problem as well...

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No, they have a sufficient number of X'es too, always had.

Also @lynx29 that is one SUPER X'y rig you've got there! Damn son!

 

[Deleted member 24505]

6800 was originally a Ngreedia GPU

 

[Toothless]

This is one of those "too few have this issue" and it becomes a troll thread. Probably just a personal issue in the end. Opinionated, etc. If you can't figure out part names then don't build.

 

[HD64G]

Would be nice if they skip 6xxx, and go straight to 7xxx to match graphics. We will have RX 7xxx for graphics and, 7xxx for processors. I can't see them staying in sync for long periods though.

Maybe the Ryzen 6X00 series will be the AM4 or AM5 3D-stacked ones and the one with Zen4 will have the 7X00 names arriving closer to the RDNA3 with the same nomenclature.

 

[elghinnarisa]

How large of a problem is this for average consumers though? I mean, I have never met a single one who knew what... anything was. I mean they might understand a hard drive store information. But the name of a harddrive? No clue, model number? Heck if they know. Never once have I heard anyone that would be considered the average consumer be confused by naming, because they never knew it had names, or model numbers, to start with. They might know if it says Intel or AMD, perhaps if a "Toshiba" is written somewhere. But other than that, i never heard anyone actually know what parts they have, or are buying.
So it seems like a mostly irrelevant problem. Most consumers who would find naming confusing are the people who buy computers based on marketing names rather than internal hardware. You know "office computer" and "gaming computer" and... actually I can't think of any more examples I havn't looked at such ads for many years.
And those who do buy it based on specific part compositions, well we already know how to find out what a 6800X is, in that sense.

What is annoying however, is when names of new hardware and old hardware (or games, movies etc) is the same. Because it makes searching for information about specific things a lot more annoying when you find results that might be 15 years old for something very different.

 

[Bill_Bright]

That's pretty ancient history though, and your average consumer doesn't care about that. They don't care about model numbers and specs, they just want to know if it will run their shit.

Confusing naming conventions is indeed, ancient history all the way up to current day. Look at how many CPUs had and still have names that include 386, 486, Pentium, Celeron, Core i3, i5, i7, i9, Athlon, Duron, Phenom, etc. Same with graphics cards with GeForce, GTX, RTX, Radeon, RX, Vega, etc. etc. Then there's DDR, DDR2, DDR3, DDR4, 5, 6, 99. Who really cares - after the purchase?

I agree that the average consumer does not care about model numbers. But I also think most enthusiasts who have been around a while don't care about model numbers either - except when researching new components for a new build - but only because knowing the model number is necessary while doing comparison shopping. But after the purchase, the specific model number is just flotsam and jetsam ready to be jettisoned from our brains.

I mean I know I have 32GB of Corsair RAM, but is it "DDR4 3000MHz" or is it "PC4 24000"? Do I really care?

That's a trick question, BTW. DDR4 3000MHz is PC4 24000.

Specs is a different issue. Enthusiasts do care about specs. But I also believe a very large percentage of average users care about specs too - at least with their own personal computers.

Users buying computers who believe they are just another necessary "appliance" needed for communication, personal business (paying bills, buying birthday gifts on Amazon), and for Googling stuff - they don't care about specs. But they do care and want their systems to be fast (or at least not slow).

Edit comment: fixed typo.

 

[Space Lynx]

@lynx29 is just trying to win shit bro

jk but the thought does go through my head every time I see a thread like this.

nah, I already gave the $10 away I just won, juts ask W1zz if you don't believe me, I almost put in a request to lock thread early on actually, cause of the responses being all I needed originally. but it's not my fault y'all keep chattering away

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Honestly, as long as the name includes an X, and preferably a few more X'es than that, apparently people think its fast.

More X more faster. Its really that simple. The numbers are irrelevant.



No, they have a sufficient number of X'es too, always had.

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Also @lynx29 that is one SUPER X'y rig you've got there! Damn son!

He should change the name to X Rated

nah, I already gave the $10 away I just won, juts ask W1zz if you don't believe me, I almost put in a request to lock thread early on actually, cause of the responses being all I needed originally. but it's not my fault y'all keep chattering away

Yeah, nothing wrong with posting whatever is on your mind. Glad to hear you're giving back to the community.

 

[ZoneDymo]

idk, it might actual even be a win for them if names seem the same, some consumers might even think that that means the parts better go together or something

but I doubt its an issue really.

 

[mtcn77]

I think it can be avoided if AMD changes the naming modulus to hexadecimal.

 

[jesdals]

Take a look at my System Specs under my profile name, or here:

The specific issue is going to be the CPU... with the previous RX 6800 gpu... its just very confusing, not confusing for us gamers and builders, but to the average consumer it will be. Do you think AMD will change the naming scheme in the future or no? @TheLostSwede

The GPU is also confusing a little, as its starting to get into the past a bit too much I feel like I remember an older gpu called a 7800? Maybe just bad memory I don't know. It's really the CPU though... I really wish they would just start naming things after animals or something. Ryzen Tiger 8-Core, Ryzen Lion 12-Core, a bit boring sure, but at least it doesn't give me a headache eh?

System Name	Paladin Endwalker
Processor	Ryzen 6800X 8-Core
Motherboard	AM5 x670
Cooling	Vetroo V5 (White with two fans in push/pull)
Memory	DDR5 --- 2x16gb (32gb)
Video Card(s)	RX 7800 XT
Display(s)	LG 42" 120hz 4K OLED
Case	Montech Air X (White)
Audio Device(s)	SennHD58X, Schiit Asgard 2 AMP, Modi 3 DAC
Power Supply	EVGA 700w Gold
Mouse	Razer Naga X (2021 Edition)
Keyboard	Logitech Cherry Mx Red
VR HMD	Valve Index 2 (TBD)
Software	WIndows 11 and Linux Mint (Dual Boot)

Well what is the difference between that and the current x570 boards and 570 gpus, 5900x cpu and 6900xt gpu. Looking at financial result for AMD - does not indicate that theres a problem at all, so no news worthy issue there….

 

[Space Lynx]

Well what is the difference between that and the current x570 boards and 570 gpus, 5900x cpu and 6900xt gpu. Looking at financial result for AMD - does not indicate that theres a problem at all, so no news worthy issue there….

honestly it all gives me a headache. but i have given up lol

 

[Chrispy_]

Honestly, as long as the name includes an X, and preferably a few more X'es than that, apparently people think its fast.

Hot damn yeah, I remember the XFX RX580 XXX GTS. That thing was so fast it had six X in the name alone.

Narrator (Morgan Freeman): "but it was not in fact fast, it was just a plain old 1370MHz reference-clocks model with cheap carbon-effect vinyl decals."

It's a shame XFX weren't making X1900-series cards back in the day.... we could have had the XFX X1950XTX XXX Edition, and with eight X in the name it would probably have been illegal.

 

[P4-630]

I have had the Nvidia XFX GeForce 6800 GS XXX in the past.