what is going on with my L3 Cache speed 46GB/s instead of over 650GB/s (5800X)

GerKNG · Oct 4, 2021

i wanted to see how my memory latency was and compare it against other 5800Xs.

Memory, L1 and L2 Cache is fine and in spec.
but my L3 Cache is more than 90% slower than all other benchmarks show.

Windows 11 Pro, latest update (Beta, release candidate .194) (fresh install after i first saw this issue)
latest chipset driver, latest everything.
latest Bios (win 11 ready a84 bios from MSI (B550 Tomahawk)
no power saving modes, same results even with a manual OC.
no software running in the background, flashed the bios again with flashback.
latest version of AIDA64 (reinstalled two times)
reseated CPU, ram memtest, P95.

CB Scores are fine but games tend to stutter and heavily drop frames sometimes.

here is my result. (stock, just XMP)

And this is how it should look like.

Mussels · Oct 4, 2021

Wasnt this an issue with certain AGESA updates?

googling says AGESA ComboAM4v2 1.2.0.1 fixed the issue

There are 3 Bios since that time that should fix your problem, for your board - including the beta you're on
MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK AMD AM4 DDR4 CF M.2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 HDMI ATX Gaming Motherboard

Drop down one BIOS to the latest official?

tabascosauz · Oct 4, 2021

GerKNG said:
CB Scores are fine but games tend to stutter and heavily drop frames sometimes.

Is the 5800X at completely stock settings?

A.84 (experimental 1203c) is still a beta BIOS isn't it? I'm still on A.30 on my Unify-X for that reason (stable 1203b). Might want to try A.70 with 1203b.

I'm not sure if you remember but I think I mentioned the problems with my old 2x16GB CJR kit to you once. Inexplicable stuttering that I threw the entire laundry list at for almost 2 years, only to fix it by switching to B-die. Not sure if it's of relevance here. I was also running a 3600 16-19-19 profile, but your latency seems a bit high at the same settings. I was about 59.9ns with a 5900X's 2CCD penalty? Subtimings shouldn't account for a 2-4ns difference, maybe 1ns tops on CJR.

CB shouldn't be affected, you'd be hard pressed to find a noticeable difference in R23 even dropping to JEDEC speed. It doesn't really care about memory.

edit: just saw you're on Win 11. 1203c is supposed to be designed for Win 11 support, but who knows if MS or AMD or MSI have borked something.

Mussels said:
googling says AGESA ComboAM4v2 1.2.0.1 fixed the issue

iirc the L3 Aida "fix" around that time mainly for APUs that displayed ~1/2 L3 read speed? I would be stuck at like 300-400GB/s read while write and copy were normal at 600GB/s. As for the L3 here, it just looks like a bad BIOS for all the bandwidth to be that low. And I don't think the fix had to do with L3 latency, his L3 latency is worse than terrible.

Mussels · Oct 4, 2021

tabascosauz said:
Is the 5800X at completely stock settings?

A.84 (experimental 1203c) is still a beta BIOS isn't it? I'm still on A.30 on my Unify-X for that reason (stable 1203b). Might want to try A.70 with 1203b.

I'm not sure if you remember but I think I mentioned the problems with my old 2x16GB CJR kit to you once. Inexplicable stuttering that I threw the entire laundry list at for almost 2 years, only to fix it by switching to B-die. Not sure if it's of relevance here. I was also running a 3600 16-19-19 profile, but your latency seems a bit high at the same settings. I was about 59.9ns with a 5900X's 2CCD penalty? Subtimings shouldn't account for a 2-4ns difference, maybe 1ns tops on CJR.

CB shouldn't be affected, you'd be hard pressed to find a noticeable difference in R23 even dropping to JEDEC speed. It doesn't really care about memory.

edit: just saw you're on Win 11. 1203c is supposed to be designed for Win 11 support, but who knows if MS or AMD or MSI have borked something.

iirc the L3 Aida "fix" around that time mainly for APUs that displayed ~1/2 L3 read speed? I would be stuck at like 300-400GB/s read while write and copy were normal at 600GB/s. As for the L3 here, it just looks like a bad BIOS for all the bandwidth to be that low. And I don't think the fix had to do with L3 latency, his L3 latency is worse than terrible.

I specifically saw people talking about this issue, thats how i knew to google the L3 issue and which agesa fixed it

At a guess, the beta bios broke it again

Chomiq · Oct 4, 2021

Isn't this W11 issue? I remember seeing this mentioned in the W11 discussion thread.

Share your AIDA 64 cache and memory benchmark here

I would absolutely be all over stuff like that, except it is of no use to me :mad: 1:1 is best for my setup. My board doesn't really like anything passed 4533, or 1 tick from 4600.. and this CPU doesn't like anything more than 4400, and no point in that because I can only get my FCLK stable up...

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Ferrum Master · Oct 4, 2021

OP living under a rock, yet he is brave enough to use beta software.

First place one has to search these things is Feedback Hub and upvote it.

It is a known issue. Dev builds do not suffer from it, only beta so far. Wait for the final release otherwise.

GerKNG · Oct 4, 2021

i don't know how long you guys are following MSIs Bios distribution for AMD but EVERY SINGLE LATEST BIOS will be called "Beta" until the next one arrives.
then it gets its beta tag removed. (like the previous one which was beta until A84 released.)

my PC takes ages to boot, shutdown and some games are barely playable.

Ferrum Master said:
It is a known issue. Dev builds do not suffer from it, only beta so far. Wait for the final release otherwise.

i tested my 10900k today and this issue does not exist. (on the same OS and SSD without any changes)

Chomiq · Oct 4, 2021

GerKNG said:
i don't know how long you guys are following MSIs Bios distribution for AMD but EVERY SINGLE LATEST BIOS will be called "Beta" until the next one arrives.
then it gets its beta tag removed. (like the previous one which was beta until A84 released.)

my PC takes ages to boot, shutdown and some games are barely playable.

On top of that you're also running W11 beta.

GerKNG · Oct 4, 2021

Chomiq said:
On top of that you're also running W11 beta.

.194 is the release candidate and i wrote above that it only happens with an AMD CPU.

Mussels said:
At a guess, the beta bios broke it again

seems to be right.

Chomiq · Oct 4, 2021

GerKNG said:
.194 is the release candidate and i wrote above that it only happens with an AMD CPU.

That's because it's probably some AGESA bs that can only be fixed by AMD releasing updated chipset driver for W11.

Ferrum Master · Oct 4, 2021

Chomiq said:
That's because it's probably some AGESA bs that can only be fixed by AMD releasing updated chipset driver for W11.

How a Chipset driver influences a kernel behavior? Mhm?

It is a Win11 BETA BRANCH BUG.... if you have no idea how Microsoft divides their code base then do not use a product, that is not finished.

Here's more discussion about it that started in august.

L3 Cache Performance on Windows 11?

I've seen isolated reports about the L3 cache performance being outright terrible with some CPUs on Windows 11 (mostly with Ryzen), and I confirmed...

forums.mydigitallife.net

GerKNG said:
i tested my 10900k today and this issue does not exist. (on the same OS and SSD without any changes)

Obviously if you test a different architecture you will not find anything as it is totally unrelated and AMD specific issue.

A honest question to all. Why are you not using feedback hub if you use a BETA product? What's the point?

Dr. Dro · Oct 4, 2021

I have the same issue with my 5950X processor. Been looking at it for some time, it's not due to HVCI or virtualization-based security (though these place further penalties on the benchmark). My motherboard is very similar to yours, only a model up (B550-E), but I have friends who have been able to reproduce on the Crosshair 8 Dark Hero, Gigabyte B550 Aorus Master, B550i Aorus Pro AX etc.

It is not a beta BIOS issue, I can recall it happening at least since before the USB bugfix AGESA (so 1.2.0.0 at a minimum), and it does occur on the current stable BIOSes for the ROG Strix motherboards as well.

However, I would be lying if I felt the impact of this "issue", if it actually exists beyond AIDA64, because my experience has been fantastic thus far and all other benchmarks that I have run return normal results. I wonder if this is a bug with AIDA64 itself.

Ferrum Master said:
How a Chipset driver influences a kernel behavior? Mhm?

It is a Win11 BETA BRANCH BUG.... if you have no idea how Microsoft divides their code base then do not use a product, that is not finished.

I have actually been experiencing this on Windows 10 stable as well... and I would argue one can't call Windows 11 (22000) beta anymore. The RTM final code is available and running on most W11-equipped PCs right now. By all intents and purposes, what you see is what you will get on production systems shipping with the OS beginning tomorrow.

Ferrum Master · Oct 4, 2021

Dr. Dro said:
I have the same issue with my 5950X processor. Been looking at it for some time, it's not due to HVCI or virtualization-based security (though these place further penalties on the benchmark). My motherboard is very similar to yours, only a model up (B550-E), but I have friends who have been able to reproduce on the Crosshair 8 Dark Hero, Gigabyte B550 Aorus Master, B550i Aorus Pro AX etc.

It is not a beta BIOS issue, I can recall it happening at least since before the USB bugfix AGESA (so 1.2.0.0 at a minimum), and it does occur on the current stable BIOSes for the ROG Strix motherboards as well.

However, I would be lying if I felt the impact of this "issue", if it actually exists beyond AIDA64, because my experience has been fantastic thus far and all other benchmarks that I have run return normal results. I wonder if this is a bug with AIDA64 itself.

I have actually been experiencing this on Windows 10 stable as well... and I would argue one can't call Windows 11 (22000) beta anymore. The RTM final code is available and running on most W11-equipped PCs right now. By all intents and purposes, what you see is what you will get on production systems shipping with the OS beginning tomorrow.

You can open up the link in MDL forum, there are some game benchmarks as well.

Most bizarre thing is that if you do a virtual OS, the guest OS doesn't exhibit this bug anymore. It is more complicated than it seems and purely is windows kernel related. Blame Wintel if you wish too.

AFAIK no RTM is sent, is just an another RC.

freeagent · Oct 4, 2021

I thought the discrepancy with Aida and L3 was because of win 11? Because my results look similar on the L3, but if I run 10 it’s normal.

P4-630 · Oct 4, 2021

GerKNG said:
Windows 11 Pro, latest update (Beta, release candidate .194) (fresh install after i first saw this issue)

In our testing with pre-release builds of Windows 11, a feature called Virtualization-based Security (VBS) causes performance to drop. VBS is enabled by default after a clean install of Windows 11, but not when upgrading from Windows 10. This means the same system can get different benchmark scores depending on how Windows 11 was installed and whether VBS is enabled or not. We plan to add VBS detection to our benchmarks in a future update to help you compare scores fairly.

UL benchmarks are ready for Windows 11

Find out more at benchmarks.ul.com

benchmarks.ul.com

Maybe this has to do with your issue?

Windows 11 General Discussion

Much appreciated

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Dr. Dro · Oct 4, 2021

Ferrum Master said:
You can open up the link in MDL forum, there are some game benchmarks as well.

Most bizarre thing is that if you do a virtual OS, the guest OS doesn't exhibit this bug anymore. It is more complicated than it seems and purely is windows kernel related. Blame Wintel if you wish too.

AFAIK no RTM is sent, is just an another RC.

Wow, that's news to me. If the VM is okay but the host OS isn't, then that's a pretty bizarre bug, my understanding was always that a VM's machine couldn't "exceed" what the host OS can technically do, the more you know... and yea build 22000 is pretty much it, the last few update packs have replaced most of the leftover bits that they were meant to change, and since launch is tomorrow, we might get another experience pack update on patch tuesday tomorrow but I would say that's about it, with as much confidence as I can. Cheers :toast:

Jdogdarkness · Oct 4, 2021

tabascosauz said:
Is the 5800X at completely stock settings?

A.84 (experimental 1203c) is still a beta BIOS isn't it? I'm still on A.30 on my Unify-X for that reason (stable 1203b). Might want to try A.70 with 1203b.

I'm not sure if you remember but I think I mentioned the problems with my old 2x16GB CJR kit to you once. Inexplicable stuttering that I threw the entire laundry list at for almost 2 years, only to fix it by switching to B-die. Not sure if it's of relevance here. I was also running a 3600 16-19-19 profile, but your latency seems a bit high at the same settings. I was about 59.9ns with a 5900X's 2CCD penalty? Subtimings shouldn't account for a 2-4ns difference, maybe 1ns tops on CJR.

CB shouldn't be affected, you'd be hard pressed to find a noticeable difference in R23 even dropping to JEDEC speed. It doesn't really care about memory.

edit: just saw you're on Win 11. 1203c is supposed to be designed for Win 11 support, but who knows if MS or AMD or MSI have borked something.

iirc the L3 Aida "fix" around that time mainly for APUs that displayed ~1/2 L3 read speed? I would be stuck at like 300-400GB/s read while write and copy were normal at 600GB/s. As for the L3 here, it just looks like a bad BIOS for all the bandwidth to be that low. And I don't think the fix had to do with L3 latency, his L3 latency is worse than terrible.

Hey can you tell me more about what typenof symptoms you were experiencing when you had that Hynix DJR memory in with tour 5900x? I just sent back my 5900x. I was having cache problems. Particularly L2 and L3. So anything you can tell me would be appreciated.

*For others trying to fix this problem, i found adjusting voltage for CCD, IOD, and CLDO could negate the problems. Also even V core has an effect on L3 and L1 cache throughout.

OneMoar · Oct 4, 2021

AIDA is bugged under Windows 11
Do nothing wait for Either AIDA or windows 11 update
./thread

windwhirl · Oct 4, 2021

The AIDA64 L3 cache issue happens in all Dev channel builds of Windows 10 and 11 since at least months ago, if not years. Not sure about Beta, but it's possible those are affected too.

ThrashZone · Oct 4, 2021

Hi,
Just the high latency on amd shows some feilds and maybe the entire aida64 suite shouldn't be taken seriously lol

windwhirl · Oct 4, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Just the high latency on amd shows some feilds and maybe the entire aida64 suite shouldn't be taken seriously lol

This only happens on Dev builds, RTM releases are fine. I know, I tested this before.

ThrashZone · Oct 4, 2021

windwhirl said:
This only happens on Dev builds, RTM releases are fine. I know, I tested this before.

Hi,
So amd latency isn't above 50 ? love to see it lower if so otherwise yeah aida64 is full of it
Probably one of the worst stability test too.

tabascosauz · Oct 4, 2021

GerKNG said:
i don't know how long you guys are following MSIs Bios distribution for AMD but EVERY SINGLE LATEST BIOS will be called "Beta" until the next one arrives.
then it gets its beta tag removed. (like the previous one which was beta until A84 released.)

my PC takes ages to boot, shutdown and some games are barely playable.

i tested my 10900k today and this issue does not exist. (on the same OS and SSD without any changes)

AGESA is one thing. Vendor implementation is another. I've seen BIOSes being severely botched by a specific vendor (Gigabyte and MSI) on multiple occasions, where the same AGESA revision in a different board works just fine, because the other vendor didn't fuck it up. Latest instance was Gigabyte's handling of 1203b on my ITX board.

My point was that release BIOSes are less likely to have outstanding bugs. But I guess the L3 bench results is just a zen3 x win11 thing.

Perhaps the stuttering is actually a separate issue, hence my concern about the memory and slightly high dram latency for your setup. Copy is also on the low side for 3600 16-19-19, on the CJR kit I've never had copy below 51GB/s on 3700X and 5900X.

AIDA can be an awful gauge of actual memory performance, but it's easy to run something else like membench or LinX. R/W and latency in membench shouldn't be far off.

Question hasn't changed. Have you tried the current stable BIOS or not?

Jdogdarkness said:
Hey can you tell me more about what typenof symptoms you were experiencing when you had that Hynix DJR memory in with tour 5900x? I just sent back my 5900x. I was having cache problems. Particularly L2 and L3. So anything you can tell me would be appreciated.

*For others trying to fix this problem, i found adjusting voltage for CCD, IOD, and CLDO could negate the problems. Also even V core has an effect on L3 and L1 cache throughout.

CJR not DJR, although they are fundamentally similar and I have no exp with DJR. It wasn't to do with cache, it was memory-related, but the stuttering symptoms are similar that's why I mentioned it. I don't want to hijack gerkng's thread, so I'll just link my explanation in my thread:

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What is the volume of that tiny HT5 baby computer vs the ceberus? Make me wanna finish up my little case build but I am broke... How you got a 5900x? These things are so rare now! The current global chip shortage is not helping it too. I know I should complain with my workstation laptop that is...

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What is the volume of that tiny HT5 baby computer vs the ceberus? Make me wanna finish up my little case build but I am broke... How you got a 5900x? These things are so rare now! The current global chip shortage is not helping it too. I know I should complain with my workstation laptop that is...

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freeagent · Oct 4, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Probably one of the worst stability test too.

I can agree to that.

ThrashZone · Oct 4, 2021

freeagent said:
I can agree to that.

Hi,
Yes it's just something to play with nothing more only paid 4.us on ebay for a cheap key.

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what is going on with my L3 Cache speed 46GB/s instead of over 650GB/s (5800X)

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Power Supply	SeaSonic Focus+ Platinum 750W
Mouse	Kone burst Pro
Keyboard	EVGA Z15
Software	Windows 11 +startisallback

System Name	System V
Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard	Asus Prime X570-P
Cooling	Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs)
Memory	2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36)
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB
Storage	SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / WD20EZRX / MKNSSDTR256GB-3DL / LG BH16NS40 / ST10000VN0008
Display(s)	LG 22MP55 IPS Display
Case	NZXT Source 210
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G430 Headset
Power Supply	Corsair CX650M
Mouse	Microsoft Trackball Optical 1.0
Keyboard	HP Vectra VE keyboard (Part # D4950-63004)
Software	Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Dev channel at the time.
Benchmark Scores	Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624

System Name	Ghetto Rigs z490\|x99\|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x
Processor	10900k w/Optimus Foundation \| 5930k w/Black Noctua D15
Motherboard	z490 Maximus XII Apex \| x99 Sabertooth
Cooling	oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block \| Blk D15
Memory	Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb \| Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb
Video Card(s)	Titan Xp-water \| evga 980ti gaming-w/ air
Storage	970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb \| 860 pro 256gb \| Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb\| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's
Display(s)	1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Case	D450 \| Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench
Audio Device(s)	Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar
Power Supply	EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 \| 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U
Mouse	Redragon 901 Perdition x3
Keyboard	G710+x3
Software	Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3
Benchmark Scores	Are in the benchmark section