5800x (and other Zen 3 chips) PBO settings/Temperature fix

[outpt]

i get zero whea errors.
What can cause event I.D 41 kernal power. everything in the system SEEMS ok.

 

[Mussels]

Damnit i was about to update this, but i'm on W11 with the CPCC2 bugs and cant just yet

 

[freeagent]

Damnit i was about to update this, but i'm on W11 with the CPCC2 bugs and cant just yet

Yup I had to snip 50MHz off the top with 11, might have been ok with just 25, but I didn't want to put the time into it..

 

[OneMoar]

I can't seem to break 14k in r23 in multi thread
I got a pretty good single core score of 1562
PTT 140
TDC 110
EDC 150
she licks about 90C during the cinbench run I may accually need to water cool this one
gaming temps are reasonable at about 65-72c

I how ever can not touch the max boost clock override at all setting it to ANYTHING other then 0 and it bsods on boot every time

 

[Mussels]

I can't seem to break 14k in r23 in multi thread
I got a pretty good single core score of 1562
PTT 140
TDC 110
EDC 150
she licks about 90C during the cinbench run I may accually need to water cool this one
gaming temps are reasonable at about 65-72c

I how ever can not touch the max boost clock override at all setting it to ANYTHING other then 0 and it bsods on boot every time

I've seen that complaint before with gigabyte boards - do you have *two* options for that, one in the main overclocking menu and one in advanced settings?
IIRC you gotta use the second one (the same one the curve voltage is in) - but i may be the other way around

 

[OneMoar]

best I could get into windows was at +25
something is bugged I wonder if its falling on its face during the hand off between bios and chipset driver voltage control
my best run is 14678 maby the lotto just kicked me in the ass this time
edit: nope even +25 bsod'd after a few minutes of bf4

 

[outpt]

W11 with L3 fixes and newest chip set drivers
Prefered cores are being used correctly.
i have gone in to the bios set pbo to advanced and added 75mhz; 100mhz bombed and restarted system.
Core 4 seems to be the worst core i have never getting above 4.6ghz. went into bios and set it to -30 reboot
Core 4 now boost to ~4.825ghz. Cores 6 and 7 clock to 4.9ghz
In testing 4.825ghz is as high as it will go despite what hwinfo records. 4.775ghz is more the norm.
Running beta bios for my b550 tomahawk.

 

[Athlonite]

interesting stuff I just bought an 5800X so looks like I might be an avid reader in here

 

[Mussels]

interesting stuff I just bought an 5800X so looks like I might be an avid reader in here

They're *amazing* chips, the short version is PPT (total wattage) can blow up to 140W on certain mobos, which just runs too hot for a single CCX chip.

 

[jayjr1105]

Will the PBO2 stuff apply to the 5600/5700G chips as well? A friend has a 5600G/RTX3060 system I'm going to help him tweak a bit.

 

[Mussels]

Will the PBO2 stuff apply to the 5600/5700G chips as well? A friend has a 5600G/RTX3060 system I'm going to help him tweak a bit.

The 5800x is unique in that it's the only CPU with all 8 cores on one CCX - and a 105W TDP (140W with PBO on)
The 5950x has 2x8 cores - but the same 105/140W limits (so with half the power per CCX on averge, duh - they run colder)

5600g and 5700g are 65W parts, so they're trouble free on the heat side as well.

 

[Athlonite]

They're *amazing* chips, the short version is PPT (total wattage) can blow up to 140W on certain mobos, which just runs too hot for a single CCX chip.

ok so new CPU arrived and I installed it but the damn thing wont clock over 3800MHz it's like the 3700X that would wouldn't auto clock upwards either so had to set a all core clock of 4375 and just left it at that

 

[Mussels]

ok so new CPU arrived and I installed it but the damn thing wont clock over 3800MHz it's like the 3700X that would wouldn't auto clock upwards either so had to set a all core clock of 4375 and just left it at that

You have the same board as me, that's not correct behaviour, or a good overclock

 

[outpt]

ok so new CPU arrived and I installed it but the damn thing wont clock over 3800MHz it's like the 3700X that would wouldn't auto clock upwards either so had to set a all core clock of 4375 and just left it at that

Should do 4.85ghz out of the box or close and about 4.7ghz all core.

 

[tabascosauz]

Will the PBO2 stuff apply to the 5600/5700G chips as well? A friend has a 5600G/RTX3060 system I'm going to help him tweak a bit.

Yes, full Curve Optimizer functionality on the 5600G and 5700G. I'm up to around -10 on all cores with the 5600G and 5700G, albeit I think -8 or -9 for the preferred cores. Haven't finished my corecycler testing for it yet.

Both are trivially easy to cool if you have any 120mm tower cooler or better.

Max +200MHz on the 5600G is 4650MHz single core and was easily achievable for every core even without CO. 5700G not so much as it's up to 4850MHz, a bit harder to max out.

 

[Athlonite]

You have the same board as me, that's not correct behaviour, or a good overclock

I have the 5800X sitting on an 4550MHz all core all the time and yeah PBO just doesn't seem to work right for me and never has it's just weird

 

[jayjr1105]

Update BIOS, update chipset driver, enable PBO advanced in BIOS, set PBO to +200MHz and disable PBO limits or set them manually. My 5800X sits at 4800MHz or so with most games.

 

[Athlonite]

Update BIOS, update chipset driver, enable PBO advanced in BIOS, set PBO to +200MHz and disable PBO limits or set them manually. My 5800X sits at 4800MHz or so with most games.

have done that (+200 & set limits manually ) as per on here it just does act like I know it should so I've just pushed an all core OC of 4550MHz and I'm done with it

 

[jayjr1105]

PBO won't kick in for all core loads. It's only for lightly threaded applications and gaming. You'll never see 4.8GHz on all core loads with PBO.

 

[Athlonite]

I'm semi happy with where it's at right now later when I have the time and patience I'll do some proper oc'ing and get it running right

 

[freeagent]

PBO won't kick in for all core loads. It's only for lightly threaded applications and gaming. You'll never see 4.8GHz on all core loads with PBO.

If you enable Asus performance enhancement things like TM5 will run at 4850 if it’s cool enough. 3DMark should be hitting those clocks or higher. Without APE I see 4750 in TM5. Not that it really matters anyways.. it’s just a memory tool but 3D stuff should be making the most of those clocks..

 

[Mussels]

Should do 4.85ghz out of the box or close and about 4.7ghz all core.

4.4 all core with 4.85 single threaded is default behaviour

4.7 all core is extremely uncommon

I'm semi happy with where it's at right now later when I have the time and patience I'll do some proper oc'ing and get it running right

I can literally send you my settings bruh, i could actually save my BIOS settings to a file and send it
Make sure you're on the new W11 happy BIOS as it has other improvements, i'll go take a photo for ya
Make sure to use the advanced menu PBO, not AI tweaker
I also have negative 10 on core optimiser (lower can hurt boost clocks, but help MT. gotta find the balance)


1.15v SOC and 1.4V DRAM let me go all the way to 4GHz on this ram totally stable (but with WHEA errors) so if you wanted to try OCing the ram later, thats how

 

[outpt]

4.7ghz all core and not brake a sweat. About the only thing uncommon for my cpu

4.4 all core with 4.85 single threaded is default behaviour

4.7 all core is extremely uncommon

 

[Mussels]

4.7ghz all core and not brake a sweat. About the only thing uncommon for my cpu

You have a 5900x, not a 5800x

 

[OneMoar]

Lowering the max boost over-ride increases all core boost
50/100 seems to be the sweet spot between single thread boost and all core
Whea Warnings mean your system is unstable fullstop
it causes stuttering and other performance loss as re-transmission data is slow
@mussles whats your IOD voltage ?