Microsoft Readies Security Feature-Update for Windows 11 Needing an OS Reinstall to Use

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
The walled garden will be complete after this,

Translation is,
Apps for win-11 from ms store period so they can auto update

Not sure why anyone would be surprised 11 has always been about more security and driver dictatorship.
I won't be clean installing hell I don't use 11 now from upgrading
10 is just as good really which isn't saying much but the hype for 11 is just funny

 

[Shihab]

in this case let me return you the favor, macroshit:
fuck you too.

I'm pretty sure we crossed the liberty sacrifice stage a long time ago. Name the last update change log for any major, non-linux OS that didn't have "more emojis!" as a main change.

That's probably true, but the problem is if they would allow to update future releases without reinstalling, or this will be mandatory until now. It's my concern about it.

Would be pretty stupid if they did. Then again, MS hasn't been exactly about smart choices in recent history. *shrugs*

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Well considering imo there is not another viable OS if you have a high powered Gaming rig, it's a case of put up with it, or uninstall windows. Don't be a hypocrite and complain while still running the OS. I will do it if i have to to keep running Win 11 which i have no problems with personally.

I have all my stuff backed up, so won't lose nothing from a reinstall apart from 15 mins of inconvenience reinstalling, then another 30 or 40 mins installing my programs again.

 

[qubit]

I'm impressed: forcing a Windows reinstall from scratch is a brand new level of inconvenience from Microsoft!

What could be so radical about this update that it can't simply be patched into the OS like all the other thousands of other previous updates over the years? I'd really like to know.

 

[ThrashZone]

I'm impressed: forcing a Windows reinstall from scratch is a brand new level of inconvenience from Microsoft!

What could be so radical about this update that it can't simply be patched into the OS like all the other thousands of other previous patches over the years? I'd really like to know.

Hi,
Besides keeping personal files ms would have to gut installs like a pig to get rid of all third party ware.

 

[rutra80]

Something like that should be labeled as a mode or an edition of Windows, not a feature. For example Windows 11 SAC, like it was with S mode/edition.

 

[mechtech]

Is there a 25% performance hit also??

 

[noel_fs]

more spyware no thanks, literally no shot i install win11 in the foreseeable future, what a garbage os

 

[windwhirl]

I hope this it's not true and a workaround will be available, because makes no sense that I can install Windows 7 and upgrade to 8, 10 and 11, and now we need a clean install for a new feature...

I'm required to do a clean install. No workarounds yet.

Is there a 25% performance hit also??

I sure as hell hope it doesn't get as stupid as Apple's notarization thing. Alas, that's probably silly to hope

 

[TechLurker]

At this point, I'm kind of hoping Win11 flops and we get a true back to basics Win12 that is more user-friendly and not control-obsessed like Win7. Optional TPM requirements, granular user control over the degree of automated protection the user desires, multiple integrated UI display options (so that we can pick where the Start Menu, pinned apps, and other things show up instead of relying on Stardock to fix it for them), easier access to the Control Panel and equivalent functions behind it, and so forth.

 

[qubit]

At this point, I'm kind of hoping Win11 flops and we get a true back to basics Win12 that is more user-friendly and not control-obsessed like Win7. Optional TPM requirements, granular user control over the degree of automated protection the user desires, multiple integrated UI display options (so that we can pick where the Start Menu, pinned apps, and other things show up instead of relying on Stardock to fix it for them), easier access to the Control Panel and equivalent functions behind it, and so forth.

Alas I can't see this happening as Microsoft appear to be increasingly trying to do an Apple.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Trouble is, we either put up with it or use Linux, which is not really viable for me, though others might use.

I wish there was another GUI based OS for PC's besides windows and Linux for high end rigs.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

The problem here is, do user(s) still have they windows key going back that far. It maybe wise to track & backup your current key if a new install turns out to be true.

Doesn't usually matter , your keys tied to your hardware, If it was activated it should re-activste on a re install automatically.

@Tigger there's two more, chrome and steam OS.

I would probably do this mind, I quite like a fresh OS but I wouldn't do all of my PC, at least not initially, and I am not sure about the hive mind AI security bit , it's a step beyond they're usual data collection.

 

[INSTG8R]

Just another NOPE…

 

[SL2]

As much as this is bad news, this thread is turning into FUD. Do we know that it can't be circumvented?

 

[TheOne]

Microsoft sure has been investing a lot of money over the past decade just to try and kill Windows.

 

[MEC-777]

There is the option to reinstall and keep your files. Not a big deal. Just back up your important data first to be safe.

 

[Just Some Noise]

Now come one, you missed the 1. April by 5 days....... I mean nothing like this can be serious....

I'm a happy Linux user for about 3 Months now and would not go back to Windows at all.

 

[qubit]

Now come one, you missed the 1. April by 5 days....... I mean nothing like this can be serious....

I'm a happy Linux user for about 3 Months now and would not go back to Windows at all.

When it comes to the Microsoft and Apple behemoths imposing their will, nothing is off limits...

 

[ThrashZone]

Now come one, you missed the 1. April by 5 days....... I mean nothing like this can be serious....

I'm a happy Linux user for about 3 Months now and would not go back to Windows at all.

Hi,
Hell I'm on my second round of linux mint
First was 17.1 and now on 20.2
Tried it 4-5 years ago and I swear not much has changed it's still a pretty lame interface.

Only good thing it has going for it now is better steam support otherwise nothing would of changed at all in all this time

As much as this is bad news, this thread is turning into FUD. Do we know that it can't be circumvented?

Yes don't install the new update

 

[windwhirl]

As much as this is bad news, this thread is turning into FUD. Do we know that it can't be circumvented?

... You need a clean install. And even then, you can switch it off if it's enabled.

 

[Makaveli]

Great reason to still be on Win 10. By the time I do decide to go up to win 11 it will be a fresh install anyways.

 

[Camm]

Man talk about a tonne of doom & gloomers.

For those of us in the Enterprise space, this is great. Whilst a form of this has been available for a while using Smartscreen lists at an OS level, this gives a much higher layer of application validation before run. But for everyone petrified of it, there will be an option to disable it, because if they enforced it it wouldn't survive anti-trust in the EU.

On a larger scale however I will say this however, this is how modern operating systems are made (look at iOS, Mac & Android for comparison, much of the same). If you don't like this, stop whining & move to Linux.

 

[windwhirl]

Man talk about a tonne of doom & gloomers.

For those of us in the Enterprise space, this is great. Whilst a form of this has been available for a while using Smartscreen lists at an OS level, this gives a much higher layer of application validation before run. But for everyone petrified of it, there will be an option to disable it, because if they enforced it it wouldn't survive anti-trust in the EU.

On a larger scale however I will say this however, this is how modern operating systems are made (look at iOS, Mac & Android for comparison, much of the same). If you don't like this, stop whining & move to Linux.

They'll complain about Linux asking for root every time then

 

[mechtech]

Man talk about a tonne of doom & gloomers.

For those of us in the Enterprise space, this is great. Whilst a form of this has been available for a while using Smartscreen lists at an OS level, this gives a much higher layer of application validation before run. But for everyone petrified of it, there will be an option to disable it, because if they enforced it it wouldn't survive anti-trust in the EU.

On a larger scale however I will say this however, this is how modern operating systems are made (look at iOS, Mac & Android for comparison, much of the same). If you don't like this, stop whining & move to Linux.

I'd prefer Dos Boot...............