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[freeagent]

Holy SOC Batman!

Is that because of the iGPU?

 

[tabascosauz]

Holy SOC Batman!

Is that because of the iGPU?

Kind of? 2200MHz is very taxing on VSOC but only really when iGPU is in the mix. With a GT610, I can set 1.2 or lower.

There's still ~0.035V of droop here at LLC6, dipping to 1.216V @ ~38amps SOC. If it touches 1.20V, all hell breaks loose. Not as bad as the Gigabyte ~0.08V.

 

[freeagent]

I figured the speed had something to do with it, I’m just not used to seeing so much of it all

 

[Final_Fighter]

i kinda want to trade my 5600x for a 5600g just to tinker with after seeing all these benchmarks.

 

[damric]

i kinda want to trade my 5600x for a 5600g just to tinker with after seeing all these benchmarks.

Lol yeah I know there isn't much tweaking margin left on the Vermeer CPUs. But at least they run fast by default. My wife's 5800x is killer for all her games.

 

[tabascosauz]

I figured the speed had something to do with it, I’m just not used to seeing so much of it all

My experience so far is that the iGPU and crazy "OC" are somewhat mutually exclusive - too much of an extra burden if you actually use the iGPU for what it's intended (gaming @ 100% utilization).

I once talked to someone who ran 2400MHz Vega 7 and 2200MHz IF @ 1.3V VSOC, on Renoir.

i kinda want to trade my 5600x for a 5600g just to tinker with after seeing all these benchmarks.

imo not a lot of point this late in an APU unless you have APU use case. The juicy 1:1 numbers are mostly just that, numbers. If pairing with a GPU, gonna need some good B-die to make up some (not all) of the performance loss. Ever since Gear 2 became a thing, you probably won't be setting any top mem scores either (good DJR or Rev.B for that isn't that cheap either).

 

[The King]

lol I should have learned my lesson years ago but I'm doing it now. I'm making a benching disk on one of my spare NVMe drives I had on the shelf. It's not the first time I've corrupted my install or even the 20th time, lol.

Then I'll get those benches re-ran with 4533MT/s RAM and maybe like 5GHz CPU all-core clocks (who knows).

What will be interesting to me is if I can get a 24/7 stable memory overclock higher than 4100MT/s which is what I have done so far with this kit.


The SFC with elevated command prompt worked like a charm , but I still created a "bench disk" - configuring it now so hopefully benches coming soon.


Ok here ya go, on the edge of stability, as +25MHz more cannot complete the benchmark.

AMD Ryzen 5 5600G @ 4923.85 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

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Love this picture. Reviewers crapped all over the Ryzen 5500 (Cezanne), but it's going to be the budget overclocker's best drop-in for 300 and 400 series board owners.

Unfortunately my AIDA score didn't change more than margin of error with the MAX timings.

Excellent so the MAX primary timings worked. Have you tried TCL 18 or all 18s ? I think even 16-19-19-19 maybe possible as well.
Please post Zentimings with MAX settings want to check what subtimings you are running. You can improve AIDA64 by improving sub timings.

 

[damric]

Excellent so the MAX primary timings worked. Have you tried TCL 18 or all 18s ? I think even 16-19-19-19 maybe possible as well.
Please post Zentimings with MAX settings want to check what subtimings you are running. You can improve AIDA64 by improving sub timings.

I'll give it a whirl in a bit. I haven't had a chance to really tweak timings yet. You know how that goes, could take weeks to nail them down. But I'll show you what the auto-timings are with zentimings. That program does bug on Cezanne so it won't show the impedances, but it shows everything else.

 

[The King]

I'll give it a whirl in a bit. I haven't had a chance to really tweak timings yet. You know how that goes, could take weeks to nail them down. But I'll show you what the auto-timings are with zentimings. That program does bug on Cezanne so it won't show the impedances, but it shows everything else.

Nice! Is that the max DDR Frequency that board can do?
I have seen the C9BLM ICs pushed to DDR-5200 however this was on an intel setup @1.55V

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[damric]

Nice! Is that the max DDR Frequency that board can do?
I have seen the C9BLM ICs pushed to DDR-5200 however this was on an intel setup @1.55V
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The option is there to go higher. I could try loosening timings further and see if it will bench higher, but 4533MT/s is unstable, and requires quite a bit of vSoC and vDIMM to pass benchmarks.

Right now I'm testing to see what a reasonable 24/7 memory setting is. 4000MT/s is rock solid. 4200MT/s is looking good, but 4400MT/s failed.

I'm not sure yet what the weakest link is, the ICs, the IMC, or the infinity fabric. I'm going to try desynching 1:1 to figure out for sure. I mean it could be the ICs since they are only binned for 3600MT/s, but it could be the IMC or fabric. I'm sure the IMC hates me running 4 DIMMs, though my T-topology board does not mind.

Thanks for that link to mllkllr's testing. I'm going to try some of his timings.

 

[oobymach]

Saw this on another forum and facepalmed because I didn't know this.

AFTER the test has run you can double click on any individual result to re-run that test only and try for a better result.

You can also run just the tests you want by double clicking apparently. Woot

 

[The King]

B-Die on First Gen Ryzen is a real pain in the butt to work with. I could not get anything above 3466MT/s to Pass TM5.
Until I tried odd primary's

 

[Dia01]

Finally broke 60 ns, had to go CR 2T however. DIMMs set @ 1.440V

 

[tabascosauz]

Finally broke 60 ns, had to go CR 2T however. DIMMs set @ 1.440V

Interesting results, latency is a bit of a headscratcher. Maybe board's fault? I was doing 59.2 on CJR, and 56 ish on B-die at that speed, my CPU is very un-special.

Although, new AGESA 1206 right now (your BIOS P3.70) seems to be slaughtering the latency over on my 5700G, so maybe that's it. Couldn't even crack 50ns, it usually does 48.1ns @ 4333CL16.

 

[Dia01]

Interesting results, latency is a bit of a headscratcher. Maybe board's fault? I was doing 59.2 on CJR, and 56 ish on B-die at that speed, my CPU is very un-special.

Although, new AGESA 1206 right now (your BIOS P3.70) seems to be slaughtering the latency over on my 5700G, so maybe that's it. Couldn't even crack 50ns, it usually does 48.1ns @ 4333CL16.

Yeah, I'm not sure really at this point, the only timings I have left on auto are below, everything else has been tweaked. The board isn't obviously the 'top shelf' of motherboards but only one available in the mATX format.

tRDWR
tWRRD
tWRWR SCL
tWRWR SD
tWRWR DD
tRDRD SCL
tRDRD SD
tRDRD DD

 

[lawood]

Low binned hynix crj.
3000CL16-18-18- Stock

I get a slighter better result just doing the latency benchmark, 56.3ns:

Fun fact, lower trc is fully stable but gives worse latency and performance.

 

[Final_Fighter]

 

[freeagent]

Noice

 

[Final_Fighter]

Noice


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i was messing around with dram map inversion in the smu settings of the bios, it seems to bring the latency down a tad bit once enabled but i cant say for sure. you mind giving it a shot and see what it does for you?

 

[lawood]

Noice


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Under 50 ns. Very nice!
Those read speeds are amazing too.

I cant get 1:1 over 2000mhz.

 

[freeagent]

i was messing around with dram map inversion in the smu settings of the bios, it seems to bring the latency down a tad bit once enabled but i cant say for sure. you mind giving it a shot and see what it does for you?

I cant right now, my son is back from the country and is making up for lost time on the computer

 

[The King]

Noice


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Those timings look familiar here is another weird config that somehow works on my system with tCWL 11

 

[Dia01]

3800, latency still highish. 4000 is still elusive, won't boot. 3933 boots but throws too many errors and couldn't pass.

 

[The King]

3800, latency still highish. 4000 is still elusive, won't boot. 3933 boots but throws too many errors and couldn't pass.

Dual Rank can be harder on the VSOC make sure your board is increasing the VSOC slightly to get higher MT/s to boot.
I think 1.15V should be safe for Zen 3.

 

[tabascosauz]

3800, latency still highish. 4000 is still elusive, won't boot. 3933 boots but throws too many errors and couldn't pass.

It's dual rank on an entry level 4-layer board. Even if your 5950X can do it, starting to ask a bit too much of the board.

Also, if you test with TM5, run another config like anta extreme1 or 1usmusv3.