X58 overclocking club

[aQi]

Got my R3X up and running. I have no clue what I'm doing, seems I forgot most things about X58 but I'll get there again.

One question, anyone else have their board power cycle 2x before posting? It runs fine but does that funny quirk every single time it has to restart or power on. Takes some bloody time and is really annoying. RAM looks fine, all DIMMs show up and are stable in benches. Battery is new.

Mine never did that but its dead unfortunately. I cant spare the time to fix it. Some hardware is making it repeat the self check cycle. Try with only one ram and just the keyboard plugged in. These boards usually cycle due to failures in detecting hardware correctly.

Done, fixed. Thanks! I did not even pay attention to the 'Memory Recheck' option.

Lol just read your below post. I think i have to let go of the habit of immediate replys

 

[Dinnercore]

Starting with a good old i7 920 for practice.

It does not like high uncore frequency but I'm also still on baby voltages. Set them all to about stock and tested how far I can go. LLC 50%.

I'm also running my R3X without the extra NB heatsink/waterblock thingy. Looks scary but with good airflow it feels fine.


EDIT: PS: This platform is gonna drive me insane some day. Even tho CPU-Z once again showed all 6GB running triple channel it was in fact still dual channel on only 4GB. Windows and Benchmate showed only 4GB available. Typical X58 problem and its so sneaky you don't even notice it until you compare benchmark scores and wonder whats going on.
I had re-seated all DIMMs -> Still only 4GB
I inspected CPU socket, all pins fine. Reseated CPU -> Still only 4GB
I pinned down the slot with the missing RAM and took that DIMM over to another slot, its working. I took the confirmed working DIMM from slot A and put it in the non-working slot B and suddenly the problem was solved.

Until in 10 boots it suddenly pulls the same stunt on me again. Like the SR-2 did constantly. Gonna loose a lot of hairs over X58...

 

[MachineLearning]

Starting with a good old i7 920 for practice.

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It does not like high uncore frequency but I'm also still on baby voltages. Set them all to about stock and tested how far I can go. LLC 50%.

View attachment 243837

I'm also running my R3X without the extra NB heatsink/waterblock thingy. Looks scary but with good airflow it feels fine.


EDIT: PS: This platform is gonna drive me insane some day. Even tho CPU-Z once again showed all 6GB running triple channel it was in fact still dual channel on only 4GB. Windows and Benchmate showed only 4GB available. Typical X58 problem and its so sneaky you don't even notice it until you compare benchmark scores and wonder whats going on.
I had re-seated all DIMMs -> Still only 4GB
I inspected CPU socket, all pins fine. Reseated CPU -> Still only 4GB
I pinned down the slot with the missing RAM and took that DIMM over to another slot, its working. I took the confirmed working DIMM from slot A and put it in the non-working slot B and suddenly the problem was solved.

Until in 10 boots it suddenly pulls the same stunt on me again. Like the SR-2 did constantly. Gonna loose a lot of hairs over X58...

After X58 I can definitely say I've gone insane for this exact reason. I've used 4 different boards and the only one to never have the third channel drop out (until memory-reseating) is my R2E. I just leave memory retraining on, since I'd rather wait a few seconds in between POSTs in exchange for knowing my memory is fully detected.

I also always will re-insert DIMMs after the CPU has been installed, even if it's the same exact ram in the same locations.

 

[Dinnercore]

If only it would always be the third channel, that would narrow it down a bit. Nah this time it was channel 2.

 

[MachineLearning]

If only it would always be the third channel, that would narrow it down a bit. Nah this time it was channel 2.

Of course... why would it be easy?

 

[Dinnercore]

This is where I'm stopping for today:

The CPU boots 220 bclk but failed to boot 225. Maybe it will do 225 with higher PCIe and some increase to IOH. Anyhow 217 was a good place to stop, any higher and the RAM quits. I still have to check the ICs on there and if they even scale with voltage at all.
Good 383W power for the system, probably 250+ for the CPU. I wonder if I should delid this one, but I feel if I can't get this over 220 bclk the benefits will be cut short. All things to consider for another day.

 

[MachineLearning]

This is where I'm stopping for today:

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The CPU boots 220 bclk but failed to boot 225. Maybe it will do 225 with higher PCIe and some increase to IOH. Anyhow 217 was a good place to stop, any higher and the RAM quits. I still have to check the ICs on there and if they even scale with voltage at all.
Good 383W power for the system, probably 250+ for the CPU. I wonder if I should delid this one, but I feel if I can't get this over 220 bclk the benefits will be cut short. All things to consider for another day.

Don't forget about Ground's binning that was done a couple years back for tweaks. Apparently many chips have a BCLK limit of 226MHz, it's a somewhat common wall for 1366 CPUs. Also, the top of page 2 on that thread has a complex-looking tape mod to disable one QPI link, which can sometimes bring higher BCLK for applicable CPUs - never tried it myself.

Pushing for higher BCLK, try Slow Mode (Ground does this during testing between 225BCLK -> 240BCLK). And as you say, PCIe @ 110MHz or as high as it goes and IOH around 1.39v. PCIe clock might be able to go higher if you have the GPU in another slot.

 

[DudeBeFishing]

Hello everyone. I'm new to the forums but not to X58.

A while ago I side-graded from an AMD Phenom II x6 1090T + Gigabye GA-990XA-UD3, to a Xeon X5650 + EVGA X58 SLI A1 (132-BL-758). Been happy with the platform. Recently I've been trying to max out the RAM speed. Just curious how high I can get it. I immediately hit the BCLK limit, about 216, or 2160Mhz RAM. I was running a X5690 for a bit. It did 4.6Ghz, but still limited in bclk. I then swapped to a W3680 for the higher memory multipliers.

Spoiler: Current System Specs:

CPU: Xeon W3680 @4.2GHz 1.35V​

Motherboard: EVGA X58 SLI A1 (132-BL-758)​

RAM: 3x4GB (12GB) Samsung M393B5273DH0-YH9 @ 2133mhz 9-10-10-24 1T, 1.55V​

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1080 G1 Gaming 8G​

SSD1: Toshiba THNSN848 480GB​

SSD2: Crucial MX500 500GB​

SSD3: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB​

OS: Windows 7 x64​

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I also have an ASUS Rampage II Extreme, and too much server RAM.​

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I could probably do 4.4Ghz stable on the cores, but this board has a lot of vdroop under load. 0.05V @ 1.4V set in BIOS. It even droops a bit with vdroop disabled in the bios.

For the RAM, I've managed to pass memtest 200% and Prime95 at uncore 3600Mhz (+250mv in bios), RAM 2400Mhz 10-11-11-27 1T 1.55V. I can boot and benchmark at uncore 3750Mhz, RAM 2500Mhz 10-12-12-28 1T 1.65V, but I didn't do much stress testing.

Above 2133Mhz I get a lot of WHEA corrected errors on the memory in event viewer while stress testing, like 20+ an hour. Most of the information is 0x0, except for length and raw. I've seen a few pop up with the X5690 too. I've swapped RAM between slots, changed every timing, added more voltage to uncore and RAM, but it didn't change anything. I'm wondering if it's a bug and not actual errors.

I found a bug with Samsung registered RAM with the Inphi register. It does not happen with IDT registers. If I go to about 2200Mhz, or sometimes reset my BIOS to default within the BIOS, the RAM will stop working. It won't work in another board either. I have to let the RAM sit for a few days unpowered, or put in the freezer for a few hours to reset it. Then it will work like normal again. My spd reader/writer can read the SPD tables when it's in this state. Idk what the issue is, maybe a safety feature on the register? It's annoying because you don't always know what register you'll get when buying used RAM. Their datasheet claims they're suppose to be different part numbers, but they're the same on the module sticker.

Also, what are the latest drivers for the X58 chipset? I've managed to update the RAID/AHCI, IO HUB, NIC, Audio, and some other drivers, but I can't find updates for the USB. I saw some users with versions 9.0+. I tried various 9.x chipset drives from Intel, but they don't update the USB drivers. Current installed version is 6/21/2006, 6.1.7601.24138, Microsoft. I think these are the default for Windows 7. I don't have USB issues, but still I feel like there's a driver newer than 2006.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hello everyone. I'm new to the forums but not to X58.

Welcome to TPU!

I then swapped to a W3680 for the higher memory multipliers.

That was a good move.

RAM: 3x4GB (12GB) Samsung M393B5273DH0-YH9 @ 2133mhz 9-10-10-24 1T, 1.55V... RAM 2400Mhz 10-11-11-27 1T 1.55V... RAM 2500Mhz 10-12-12-28 1T 1.65V

These timings & speeds are solid. Not sure you can get more out of them. I will say this, my experience with X58 Xeons is that tighter timings are better than faster speed. So you may with to stick with the 2133 settings.

 

[SeanBeanDiesInTheEnd]

Starting with a good old i7 920 for practice.

View attachment 243836

It does not like high uncore frequency but I'm also still on baby voltages. Set them all to about stock and tested how far I can go. LLC 50%.

View attachment 243837

I'm also running my R3X without the extra NB heatsink/waterblock thingy. Looks scary but with good airflow it feels fine.


EDIT: PS: This platform is gonna drive me insane some day. Even tho CPU-Z once again showed all 6GB running triple channel it was in fact still dual channel on only 4GB. Windows and Benchmate showed only 4GB available. Typical X58 problem and its so sneaky you don't even notice it until you compare benchmark scores and wonder whats going on.
I had re-seated all DIMMs -> Still only 4GB
I inspected CPU socket, all pins fine. Reseated CPU -> Still only 4GB
I pinned down the slot with the missing RAM and took that DIMM over to another slot, its working. I took the confirmed working DIMM from slot A and put it in the non-working slot B and suddenly the problem was solved.

Until in 10 boots it suddenly pulls the same stunt on me again. Like the SR-2 did constantly. Gonna loose a lot of hairs over X58...

I called it quits and settled running my x5650/P6T Deluxe v2 combo in dual channel. I did like the triple channel synthetic scores, but for my use as a daily driver I opted for dual channel stability, the dark side has me lol.

Super side question, does anyone else here have a P6T Deluxe v2? I feel like me, @Mr Bill, and @Tigger are the only owner's of one on TPU.

 

[MachineLearning]

I called it quits and settled running my x5650/P6T Deluxe v2 combo in dual channel. I did like the triple channel synthetic scores, but for my use as a daily driver I opted for dual channel stability, the dark side has me lol.

Super side question, does anyone else here have a P6T Deluxe v2? I feel like me, @Mr Bill, and @Tigger are the only owner's of one on TPU.

Not sure about TPU, but it seems to be somewhat common over on HWBot.

 

[SeanBeanDiesInTheEnd]

I need to know my bretheren, it's super sad if I can count them on one hand lol!

 

[Ayrton]

Still rocking my Asus P6T with an X5680. I have only just recently maxed out the memory and started tinkering with overclocking. Currently, I have it at 4.3GHz with most settings still set to auto.

Would there be a "go-to" guide on overclocking the X58?

 

[lexluthermiester]

I have only just recently maxed out the memory

Went you say maxed out do you mean 24GB or 48GB?

 

[Ayrton]

Went you say maxed out do you mean 24GB or 48GB?

48GB (Patriot Viper III)

 

[Keullo-e]

4.66GHz isn't stable, I'd love to have a 2GHz OC..

 

[Ayrton]

Here is where I am currently, but really have little idea of what I am doing. Please feel free to advise me on changes. I don't game, just trying to squeeze a little more video rendering power out of my setup.

 

[MachineLearning]

Here is where I am currently, but really have little idea of what I am doing. Please feel free to advise me on changes. I don't game, just trying to squeeze a little more video rendering power out of my setup.

In my opinion, any half-decent Westmere sample should be able to boot the below settings. It seems like you have at least a decent one, 4.4GHz @ 1.35v is pretty good imo. 4.5GHz @ 1.35v is the best I have.

You'll have to excuse the nasty photos, I'm simply too lazy to write this all down and my capture card isn't here just yet.

Keep in mind these are not what I'd call optimal settings but they are better than what you have now - putting CPU frequency aside. If you have 6 sticks of RAM installed, see if you can't get 2T or 3T to work at the same timings and frequency.

Do a temp test just in case, since you're running at a lower voltage at the moment. I'm using a X5675 so my multiplier is lower than yours may be. So if it does boot @ 23x as a sanity check, try 24x and see if 4.58GHz is stable and < 90⁰c (pref. < 80⁰c) @ 1.4v. If not, keep it at 24x and see if 187 - 188MHz BCLK is stable. If you find the limits of your cooling or chip, find the lowest voltage that vCore and QPI/VTT are stable at and you're off to the races.

Best of luck!

 

[SeanBeanDiesInTheEnd]

Such a bummer of a weekend, just getting over it...

I finally got my hands on a very close to MSRP RTX 3080 to replace my 1660 super, got a new EVGA 850w P2 platinum to update my 650w PSU too. After putting it altogether the troubleshooting began. Nothing for the life of me would post the 3080, tried:
-Re-updateing mobo BIOS to latest version
-running an HDMI 2.0, and then 2.1
-changing PCI-e slots
-enabling ACPI 2.0
-updating latest NVIDIA driver with a DDU clean while 1660s installed
-setting TV to game mode, and then normal with input signal plus (Samsung Q60t)

Dropping in my 1660 super posts, confirming all cables are plugged in properly. The RTX card posted on my friends newer hardware.

For any future lurkers, P6T deluxe v2 (Rev. 12) is a no-go for Ampere cards. Black screen just like others on Rev. 12 ASUS Rampage II and III's if you lurk google. Sucks to hit a physical hard wall on my x58, but glad I was able to return it all for a full refund. I guess 1660 super is the highest I can go on my rig, F.

EDIT: Other users with the same P6T Deluxe v2 board as mine have gotten an Ampere card running, until I get my hands on an EVGA card I will keep this open.

Here is where I am currently, but really have little idea of what I am doing. Please feel free to advise me on changes. I don't game, just trying to squeeze a little more video rendering power out of my setup.

Small request, any chance you're able to post a screenshot of the "mainboard" tab within CPUz (assuming you have it). Wondering if you're running the same revision board I have.

Also what GPU you using?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Such a bummer of a weekend, just getting over it...

I finally got my hands on a very close to MSRP RTX 3080 to replace my 1660 super, got a new EVGA 850w P2 platinum to update my 650w PSU too. After putting it altogether the troubleshooting began. Nothing for the life of me would post the 3080, tried:
-Re-updateing mobo BIOS to latest version
-running an HDMI 2.0, and then 2.1
-changing PCI-e slots
-enabling ACPI 2.0
-updating latest NVIDIA driver with a DDU clean while 1660s installed
-setting TV to game mode, and then normal with input signal plus (Samsung Q60t)

Dropping in my 1660 super posts, confirming all cables are plugged in properly. The RTX card posted on my friends newer hardware.

For any future lurkers, P6T deluxe v2 (Rev. 12) is a no-go for Ampere cards. Black screen just like others on Rev. 12 ASUS Rampage II and III's if you lurk google. Sucks to hit a physical hard wall on my x58, but glad I was able to return it all for a full refund. I guess 1660 super is the highest I can go on my rig, F.


Small request, any chance you're able to post a screenshot of the "mainboard" tab within CPUz (assuming you have it). Wondering if you're running the same revision board I have.

Also what GPU you using?

Given that you're posting in the X58 thread, are you trying to install that 3080 into a X58 based system? If so you could be running into a UEFI VBIOS problem and if so, the only solution is to upgrade to a newer platform.

For any future lurkers, P6T deluxe v2 (Rev. 12) is a no-go for Ampere cards. Black screen just like others on Rev. 12 ASUS Rampage II and III's if you lurk google. Sucks to hit a physical hard wall on my x58, but glad I was able to return it all for a full refund.

No, you should keep the card and get a newer platform. X79 or X99 would be good. Even first gen Ryzen would work.

I guess 1660 super is the highest I can go on my rig, F.

Nope. I ran an EVGA RTX2080 Black in my Dell T3500 for nearly two years without issue. NVidia dropped legacy BIOS support from the RTX 3000 series.

 

[SeanBeanDiesInTheEnd]

Given that you're posting in the X58 thread, are you trying to install that 3080 into a X58 based system? If so you could be running into a UEFI VBIOS problem and if so, the only solution is to upgrade to a newer platform.

Have seen a couple of 3dmark scores browsing similar builds running a 3080, Kana Maru over on overclock.net successfully ran one on his sabertooth. It seems like ASUS Revision 13 boards can still do Ampere, Revision 12 is where it get's....odd

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/l3ij2n

No, you should keep the card and get a newer platform. X79 or X99 would be good. Even first gen Ryzen would work.

Already returned it all sadly.

Nope. I ran an EVGA RTX2080 Black in my Dell T3500 for nearly two years without issue. NVidia dropped legacy BIOS support from the RTX 3000 series.

Good to know, 20xx cards are turing based like my 1660s.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Have seen a couple of 3dmark scores browsing similar builds running a 3080, Kana Maru over on overclock.net successfully ran one on his sabertooth. It seems like ASUS Revision 13 boards can still do Ampere, Revision 12 is where it get's....odd

There is a problem of bottlenecking as well. My 2080 was a big boost over the 1080 I had before it, but the card was defintately hitting a CPU bottleneck in some games. The effect varied from game to game. With a 3080, the effect would be even greater. Bang for Buck, IMO the 2070 is the best sweetspot card for an X58 system. If you don't want to jump platform, a 2070 is the way to go.

Good to know, 20xx cards are turing based like my 1660s.

But they have RTX and perform much better.

 

[SeanBeanDiesInTheEnd]

There is a problem of bottlenecking as well. My 2080 was a big boost over the 1080 I had before it, but the card was defintately hitting a CPU bottleneck in some games. The effect varied from game to game. With a 3080, the effect would be even greater. Bang for Buck, IMO the 2070 is the best sweetspot card for an X58 system. If you don't want to jump platform, a 2070 is the way to go.


But they have RTX and perform much better.

To be anticipated on x58, I was gunning more for the DLSS with a 'relaxed' 4k experience and maxing out MADvr for 4k movies. My Q60t is 60hz only so not chasing 120+ frames, if I could get 60fps at 1440p or 4k I'd say I'm happy. 'Some' handicapped gaming now, I would've at at least been able to carry it over proudly to something that could stretch its legs more in the future.

 

[lexluthermiester]

To be anticipated on x58, I was gunning more for the DLSS with a 'relaxed' 4k experience and maxing out MADvr for 4k movies. My Q60t is 60hz only so not chasing 120+ frames, if I could get 60fps at 1440p or 4k I'd say I'm happy. 'Some' handicapped gaming now, I would've at at least been able to carry it over proudly to something that could stretch its legs more in the future.

Unfortunately, while X58 is still useful and holding it's own, it is reaching it's limits and 2160p seems to be one of those limits. 1440p is very doable with the right card. 2160p/60 is doable with the right balance of settings. A 2070 or 2080 will give you a good 2160p experience as long as you accept some limitations and are willing to turn some settings down or off.

EDIT; Go for EVGA's cards as they are known to still support Legacy BIOS systems.

 

[Ayrton]

Small request, any chance you're able to post a screenshot of the "mainboard" tab within CPUz (assuming you have it). Wondering if you're running the same revision board I have.

Also what GPU you using?