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Overclocking R5 3600

BlaezaLite

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System Name AMDWeapon
Processor Ryzen 7 7800X3D -20 CO
Motherboard X670E MSI Tomahawk WiFi
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 ARGB with Silverstone Air Blazer 2200rpm fans
Memory G-Skill Trident Z Neo RGB 6000 CL30 32GB@EXPO
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Storage Samsung 870 QVO 1TB x 2, Lexar 256 GB, TeamGroup MP44L 2TB, Crucial T700 1TB, Seagate Firecuda 2TB
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Case Montech 903 MAX AIR
Audio Device(s) SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro Wireless + Wicked Cushions Gel earpads
Power Supply MSI MPG AGF 850 watt gold
Mouse SteelSeries AeroX 5 l Forza Pad Gamesir T7 l Power A OPS V3 for FPS (paddles)
Keyboard SteelSeries Apex 9 TKL with Steelseries B&W pudding caps
VR HMD -
Software Windows 11 Pro 24H2
Benchmark Scores Enough for me
What's the best way to get some extra performance from my CPU? My system specs show what I've got, now tell me how to make it go faster please. Its currently at 4275mhz, but I need to stop pretending I know what I'm doing, lol.
 
Be sure you have good CPU cooling and low temps before overclocking attempts.
 
P4-630 said:
Be sure you have good CPU cooling and low temps before overclocking attempts.
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Its currently at 37C with a Vetroo V5 cooler.
 
you won't get much out of it.
manual overclocking on ryzen is barely a thing anymore and since zen 3 curve optimizer made it completely obsolete.
you can use PBO set it to 2x and maybe give it another 50-100Mhz in the offset. (if that is even stable since the 3600 non X is a really low bin)
 
So 4275mhz what I'm currently running is about all its got? I shall leave it at that then and fiddle no more. Does the board hold it back too as I've a MSI B450M Mortar max which in hardware info said "Low promontory power" or summat like that?
 
JKRsega said:
So 4275mhz what I'm currently running is about all its got? I shall leave it at that then and fiddle no more. Does the board hold it back too as I've a MSI B450M Mortar max which in hardware info said "Low promontory power" or summat like that?
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you would get maybe 4.35 with an aio but not more if at all.
the board is fine (latest bios and chipset drivers should still be installed) about the "low promonotory power" i never heard that before but from what i've seen it had to do with the CPU spread spectrum, bclk and some said even chipset. (it ended with ignore it, it does not matter) :D
 
My old 3600XT was doing 4400 with 1.275, and 4500 with 1.3375. I was able to run it at 4400 with no fan on Le Grand Macho RT under a Linpack Xtreme load. Temps were high, but still not as high as some people let theirs get to during a game.
 
Ah okay. No AIO for me as I want to upgrade the CPU to a 5700X which has a low TDP like the 3600 and I'm going to leave that stock as my GPU is bottlenecked enough. I'll do all the chipset and bios when I get said CPU.
I was quite concerned when I saw "Low promontory power" and I shall take your word for it that its unimportant.
Sorry to go off topic, but can I OC my ram at all? its at 3200 but I was trying to OC it to 3600 and it couldn't do it.
Will it OC it at all?
Edit : I know I am totally n00bish at all this, but I'm terrified of damaging anything.
 
My 3600X spec is 3.6GHz base and 4.4GHz boost. It idles 4.075-4.125GHz and drops to 3.9GHz all cores when rendering.
 
JKRsega said:
Ah okay. No AIO for me as I want to upgrade the CPU to a 5700X which has a low TDP like the 3600 and I'm going to leave that stock as my GPU is bottlenecked enough. I'll do all the chipset and bios when I get said CPU.
I was quite concerned when I saw "Low promontory power" and I shall take your word for it that its unimportant.
Sorry to go off topic, but can I OC my ram at all? its at 3200 but I was trying to OC it to 3600 and it couldn't do it.
Will it OC it at all?
Edit : I know I am totally n00bish at all this, but I'm terrified of damaging anything.
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Overclocking your RAM will be helpful.

As you're now aware, 4.2GHz is about as high as the CPU will reasonably clock on a budget cooler - yes, you can push maybe 100MHz higher but it'll get hot and loud if you switch to an all-core overclock so it's hardly worth the effort.

About the best thing you can do for an R5 3600 is to give it 3600MHz RAM, because that runs in the infinity fabric at 1800MHz instead of 1600MHz which will get you maybe 10% gains a few situations, and those situations are often when your FPS are lowest.

Download Thaiphoon burner and the 1usmus DRAM calculator, then look for some YouTube guides on how to overclock your RAM using this calculator's safe settings mode. You might be unlucky but most DDR4-3200 will reach 3600 if you loosen the timings enough. I'm no expert at RAM overclocking and I'm not going to lie - there will be quite a lot of trial-and-error, but if you have the time to tinker, an 1800MHz infinity fabric is about the best improvement you can make to a R5 3600.
 
As mentioned, make sure your cooling is adequate. What is your CPU temperature and all core clocks 30 minutes into Cinebench R23?
 
QuietBob said:
As mentioned, make sure your cooling is adequate. What is your CPU temperature and all core clocks 30 minutes into Cinebench R23?
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With an air cooler his temperatures are going to level out after 1-5 minutes of Cinebench, depending on how awesome or terrible his case cooling is.

With a Vetroo V5 (5x direct-contact heatpipe, 120mm tower) and the default 88W PPT of the R5 3600 he's absolutely fine for cooling. Vetroo may be budget but it's plenty for what he has and vastly better than either the Wraith Prism Max that AMD used to ship with their 105W CPUs, or the old go-to standard CM Hyper 212.
 
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