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Early European Pricing for Socket AM5 X670E Motherboards Appear Online

I was wondering if it was worth upgrading from a 3800X to a 5900X and these prices helped decide.
No Am5 for me this year.

No need for it though either.
 
Buying a MB over 250€/$ in the first place
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Yup. There's this trend for ridiculously-overpriced, overbuilt VRM designs on even entry-level boards now.

I have nothing against flagships at silly money - if there's a market for those then companies should absolutely cater to it if they want. What the mass market doesn't need is an additional $200 of wasteful overkill for something that consumer AIOs and air coolers have no hope of ever cooling. I'm absolutely fine with a 170W CPU being unable to pull more than 230W from the motherboard socket, because the VRMs for the socket are designed to run at only 230W plus some margin for comfort/reliability and variance.

If people want a board that can deliver 300W+ to the socket, then fine, they can buy an OC-focused enthusiast board.

We know it's not PCIe 5.0 adding to the cost, because Alder Lake PCIe 5.0 boards start from something like $129.
 
It appears that these prices are indeed not what we should expect.
A Japanese distributor has gone out with details about the Biostar X670E Valkyrie and it'll have an MSRP of 59,800 Yen in Japan, or about US$415, which is a lot more in line with what a board with that kind of feature set should retail for.

Yup. There's this trend for ridiculously-overpriced, overbuilt VRM designs on even entry-level boards now.

I have nothing against flagships at silly money - if there's a market for those then companies should absolutely cater to it if they want. What the mass market doesn't need is an additional $200 of wasteful overkill for something that consumer AIOs and air coolers have no hope of ever cooling. I'm absolutely fine with a 170W CPU being unable to pull more than 230W from the motherboard socket, because the VRMs for the socket are designed to run at only 230W plus some margin for comfort/reliability and variance.

If people want a board that can deliver 300W+ to the socket, then fine, they can buy an OC-focused enthusiast board.

We know it's not PCIe 5.0 adding to the cost, because Alder Lake PCIe 5.0 boards start from something like $129.
X670E boards are a bit more complex with regards to the PCIe 5.0 bit compared to Z690 boards though, but it shouldn't add more than a few bucks overall, depending on the board layout. Obviously som board makers have gone out of their way to make complex implementations, so those boards are going to be a lot pricier.
Even the VRM's don't add that much extra cost, to a point.
 
This are probably top of the line motherboards, but people should really stop throwing money at companies just because they want to "play a video game".
 
This are probably top of the line motherboards, but people should really stop throwing money at companies just because they want to "play a video game".
Might be in the wrong forum there bud.

TPU?
 
Absolutely absurd pricing. I'm currently building a new PC (from i7 3770, 8GB DDR3 & 980ti) and was looking forward some mainstream X670 board but at these price I'll have to wait for B650. Also add to the fact Nvidia is overcharging for it's 4000 series. It really make's me reconsider the whole thing.
The X series is useless anyway. Unless you are running a sudo professional production setup all the extra lanes and features will connect dust. The b650e still gets either a 5.0 GPU or SSD without the insane price tag, and plenty of 4.0 for everything else.
 
Holy shit!

I got my Z590 Steel Legend for €200 in March last year, how prices have changed.
 
hmm your USB issues might be Linux related, never had anything on my x370 nor B550, but in the other hand you don't require Windows 11 so good for you

yeah pricing seems crazy, I anticipated that so decided to build during the last black Friday, getting a 5800X+B550+fast DDR4 for great prices. I'd wait another 2 years before thinking on jumping to DDR5, but buying Intel is like buying VW to me, not an option.

That was a well known problem with Zen 3 early on. Users experienced USB devices dropping out randomly and crackling on audio devices. It took AMD about 3 months to acknowledge the problem, and fixes via AGESA came out about 6-9 months after Zen 3 release (there were multiple fixes). AMD to this day is still releasing USB stability updates in their AGESA though, and there are still sporadic reports of the same issue (though perhaps not actually the same issue).

If you don't believe it I could post a dozen or more links about the issue, as I said it was well known. Or you could just Google it...
 
Zen5 will not come until 2024. That leaves 3 generations. Motherboard manufacturers (or AMD) will surely find a way to make us buy a new motherboard, if not in 2024, then certainly in 2025
they didn't made us buy a new motherboard for am4, so we will they do for am5?
 
What a joke. I just bought X570/5600X/32GB/2TB SSD/RTX 3080 for the price of ASUS X670E Hero motherboard.
 
And ridiculius arguments 22,23,24 and 25 are 4 gens not 2.
considering latest gen of Ryzens has been "launching" from november 2020 to april 2022 with various skews and tweaks we're gonna be lucky to get 2 gens.

4 gens would be very intel-like approach (who says they will have to stick to one set of chipsets at a time anyways? They can just release Zen4+ refresh for AM5 in 2025 after releasing AM6 :)
 
no way these prices are real, ill relink this article when they are actually available.

Sooo , you were saying something ....

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