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I9 9900K Turbo Boost with iGPU

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Hello,

I'm using i9 9900K with integrated GPU and B360 HD3P motherboard without access to BIOS
From what i know, i9 9900K should have 4,7ghz clock speed with turbo boost with all 8 cores
I tried to configure it with ThrottleStop 9.5 and i was able to reach the 4,7ghz clock speed, but CPU usage under load was the same or even highter than with 3,6ghz, when trying different options sometimes it was going under 3ghz clock speed and the usage was lower than 4,7ghz, but the machine wasn't running smoothly

Any ideas how to get stable 4,7ghz with ThrottleStop and without getting power limit throttling, current/edp limit throttling?
 
Intel Core i9-9900K has 8 cores

Only 1 core can achieve 5 GHz, if 2nd core is require the turbo speed is less than 5GHz maybe 4.8GHz
with the 3rd core even lower top speed

That is my understanding
 
KetraB said:
Any ideas how to get stable 4,7ghz with ThrottleStop and without getting power limit throttling, current/edp limit throttling?
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If you can't run your i9 9900K @ stock speeds, you need a better cooler and/or better case airflow.
 
P4-630 said:
If you can't run your i9 9900K @ stock speeds, you need a better cooler and/or better case airflow.
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He also needs a better motherboard.

The 9900K is an absolute juice guzzler when OC'd. Youre looking at between 340-365w TDP at 4.7Ghz. Youre going to end up making the VRMs explode or melt, if not both with that B360 board.
 
Even stable 4,2ghz would be good for me, but i don't know how should i configure ThrottleStop with integrated GPU
I can reach 4,7ghz on it, but under load the CPU usage is the same or even highter than with 3,6ghz
 
KetraB said:
I can reach 4,7ghz on it, but under load the CPU usage is the same or even highter than with 3,6ghz
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Just because clock is higher, it doesn't mean CPU has "less to do" than lower clock one (from OS perspective).
CPU usage is NOT directly linked to CPU frequency, so OC'ing your CPU doesn't mean it should show "less usage" vs. non-OC'ed one.
 
agent_x007 said:
Just because clock is higher, it doesn't mean CPU has "less to do" than lower clock one (from OS perspective).
CPU usage is NOT directly linked to CPU frequency, so OC'ing your CPU doesn't mean it should show "less usage" vs. non-OC'ed one.
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I'm running it 24/7 with around 90% CPU usage (3,6ghz), sometimes when i'm trying new things, clock frequence drops under 3ghz but the usage is lower than 3,6ghz, sometimes it goes over 4ghz and the usage is highter, in both options machine doesn't run smoothly as it should and as it is with 3,6ghz
 
KetraB said:
I'm running it 24/7 with around 90% CPU usage (3,6ghz), sometimes when i'm trying new things, clock frequence drops under 3ghz but the usage is lower than 3,6ghz, sometimes it goes over 4ghz and the usage is highter, in both options machine doesn't run smoothly as it should and as it is with 3,6ghz
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That sounds like VRM throttle (based on power/current or temperature of it/CPU).
 
I just need to get 7-8ghz overall more from this CPU, so even 4,1ghz would be good
 
KetraB said:
i9 9900K with integrated GPU and B360 HD3P motherboard without access to BIOS
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Surprised so many people looked beyond this. While still zeroing in on the fact a suitable new board would solve all of your issues.
 
You didn't even mention what CPU cooler you are using.
 
KetraB said:
Because it's a rented server, i'm using it via RDP, that's why i'm limited to throttlestop
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simon cowell facepalm GIF


GL. Then...
 
KetraB said:
Can't change motherboard on it
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FreedomEclipse said:
You're going to end up making the VRMs explode or melt, if not both with that B360 board.
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Penny smart and dollar stupid.

The brakes on rented sportscars make using them at any speed dangerous as well. Not much anyone can do short of taking it into a shop twice - repair and reversing repairs.
 
Lol, he's most likely renting a Hetzner server (I9 auction servers) and trying to go against their ToS to overclock it; increasing power and temp.
 
rocky45 said:
Lol, he's most likely renting a Hetzner server (I9 auction servers) and trying to go against their ToS to overclock it; increasing power and temp.
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Have you ever rented any servers? If no then i will enlighten you and say that normally different servers doesn't have problems with turbo boost, 9900k is one from better CPUs to OC or turbo boost so it should be able to reach it same as other CPUs like 7700 or 8700 does without problems
 
KetraB said:
Have you ever rented any servers? If no then i will enlighten you and say that normally different servers doesn't have problems with turbo boost, 9900k is one from better CPUs to OC or turbo boost so it should be able to reach it same as other CPUs like 7700 or 8700 does without problems
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Yes contact Hetzner for that (I've rented countless dozen servers from all providers btw). They use stock regular coolers, you won't get gaming-grade liquid or air coolers in there. What they'll do is compensate that heat by using air conditioners. Most data center cooling is never efficient for overclocking.
Tl;dr: Overclocking requires custom efficient cooler ON THE CPU itself.
 
rocky45 said:
Yes contact Hetzner for that (I've rented countless dozen servers from all providers btw). They use stock regular coolers, you won't get gaming-grade liquid or air coolers in there. What they'll do is compensate that heat by using air conditioners. Most data center cooling is never efficient for overclocking.
Tl;dr: Overclocking requires custom efficient cooler ON THE CPU itself.
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Then how is that 8700 doesn't have problems with reaching turbo boost clock speed on all cores under load?
 
KetraB said:
Then how is that 8700 doesn't have problems with reaching turbo boost clock speed on all cores under load?
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Because duh, it's a 6-core CPU @4.3ghz all-core turbo. The I9 is an 8-core CPU, and it's pretty impressive that it can do 4.7Ghz all-core turbo with a somewhat near stock cooler.
 
KetraB said:
Then how is that 8700 doesn't have problems with reaching turbo boost clock speed on all cores under load?
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KetraB said:
Hello,

I'm using i9 9900K with integrated GPU and B360 HD3P motherboard without access to BIOS
From what i know, i9 9900K should have 4,7ghz clock speed with turbo boost with all 8 cores
I tried to configure it with ThrottleStop 9.5 and i was able to reach the 4,7ghz clock speed, but CPU usage under load was the same or even highter than with 3,6ghz, when trying different options sometimes it was going under 3ghz clock speed and the usage was lower than 4,7ghz, but the machine wasn't running smoothly

Any ideas how to get stable 4,7ghz with ThrottleStop and without getting power limit throttling, current/edp limit throttling?
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This motherboard B360 HD3P will only run any CPU installed up to 95w draw and not a stitch more.
This is roughly the base clocks for the installed cpu 9900K -
If a 9900KS (127w) where to be installed, it would only draw 95w maximum.
There won't be any function to increase the max 95w, that's all you get.

If I'm not mistaken, it looks like a 3 phase VRM. It's at the bottom of the heap.
 
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