How do i get my CPU down in temperatures ?

[BossSiggy]

Hello. My old pc died because it got to hot, so recently i bought a new pc and one of the first things i did was checking what temperatures it would reach, because i dont want that to happen again and just by doing a simple task like running Windows full virus scan it was reaching +90 degrees celcius and ive been researching and from what i undertand your CPU shouldnt reach higher that 80 degrees celcius under maximum load, so i contacted the shop where i bought it and Intel about it and Intel told me to update the BIOS (i did that and it didnt fix the problem) they then said that if it didnt fix the problem, both them and the shop told me to change the CPU with a new one of same model (i7-12700F) and get a better CPU cooler instead of the stock one and no matter what i will change the CPU, because i obviously dont want a CPU that there is something wrong with, but id like to save the money for a new CPU cooler for something else, if its possible, so my question is if there is any way for me to get my CPU down in temperature without changing the cooler, without loosing performance and my pc being to loud, i have set my fans to go to 100 at 50 degrees celcius in BIOS, but i still hit +81 degrees celcius doing virus scan, i can then set my pc in power saver mode and it will only 64 degrees celcius doing a scan, but that takes off way to much performance i think ? id like to have my pc on either balanced or high performance. Also Intel is telling me that i need a cooler with at least 180 watt, but the shop where i bought the pc is saying that BE QUIET PURE ROCK 2 is more than enough (its less than 180 watt though) and im thinking Intel is right, since they made the CPU, so they should know best, but i want to hear other peoples opinion on that aswell.

 

[Ownedtbh]

ramp up the fan

 

[P4-630]

What is your ambient temperature?

Also what GPU do you have, do you game too?

ramp up the fan

i have set my fans to go to 100 at 50 degrees celcius in BIOS, but i still hit +81 degrees celcius doing virus scan

Get a Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4, Noctua NH-U12A (I use this one with my i7 12700K) or get a good Thermalright cooler or any cooler like these.

Noctua NH-U12A Review

Noctua delivers top-tier air cooling performance in a compact design with the release of the NH-U12A. Sporting two of their latest NF-A12x25 PWM fans, what this cooler lacks in regards to RGB LEDs, it makes up for with brown and tan Noctua styling and a premium build quality that is second to none.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[BossSiggy]

ramp up the fan

Before it was on some automatic stuff and i think at 70 degrees celcius the fans went to work at 100%, i changed it to manual and at 50 degrees celcius the fans now goes to 100% work, but its getting to loud, so i dont want to put it further down than that i think. Any other ideas ?

 

[BlaezaLite]

There are so many variables, it's hard for anyone to give an answer.

 

[BossSiggy]

What is your ambient temperature?

Also what GPU do you have, do you game too?




Get a Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4, Noctua NH-U12A (I use this one with my i7 12700K) or get a good Thermalright cooler or any cooler like these.

Im not sure, i dont have anything to see what the temperature inside the case is or just in general, but i took theese scr shots from HWMonitor yesterday, the one with the low temperatures is when i only have my ''normal'' workload open wich is: PrivadoVPN, Spotify, ZoneAlarm, CoreTemp and Intel Driver Support Assistant open down in the right corner and a few documents and the picture with higher temperatures is from after during a virus scan.

the CPU is Intel i7 12700F and no i dont game atm or plan to, i only game on my PS5.

There are so many variables, it's hard for anyone to give an answer.

Any more info i can give that would help or ?

What is your ambient temperature?

Also what GPU do you have, do you game too?




Get a Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4, Noctua NH-U12A (I use this one with my i7 12700K) or get a good Thermalright cooler or any cooler like these.

Noctua NH-U12A Review

Noctua delivers top-tier air cooling performance in a compact design with the release of the NH-U12A. Sporting two of their latest NF-A12x25 PWM fans, what this cooler lacks in regards to RGB LEDs, it makes up for with brown and tan Noctua styling and a premium build quality that is second to none.

www.techpowerup.com

would any of theese coolers be good enough to get it under 80 degrees celcius when running something like anti virus ? because theese are the only coolers the shop have for my case: BE QUIET PURE ROCK 2 or CORSAIR H100x WATERCOOLER, 240MM

 

[P4-630]

the CPU is Intel i7 13700F and no i dont game atm or plan to, i only game on my PS5.

Is it a 12700F or a 13700F ?

You must have a dedicated GPU installed as well, since the F CPU's don't come with a iGPU so what is your GPU?

 

[Divide Overflow]

Do you have an intake fan and an exhaust fan working in your computer case?

 

[BossSiggy]

Is it a 12700F or a 13700F ?

You must have a dedicated GPU installed as well, since the F CPU's don't come with a iGPU so what is your GPU?

12700F, sorry.

the GPU is NVIDIA GeForce RTX2060

and then this is the rest of my specs:

the case is NZXT H510
cpu: Intel i7 12700F with stock cooler
16 GB RAM (i think its DDR4, but im not sure and i dont know where to check that)
2x 2 TB SSD KINGSTON SNVS2000G
i think the motherboard is ASUS B660 or something like that ? i dont where to check that (cant find it device manager)

 

[Lei]

@BossSiggy I have a strange feeling that tells me you've got toothpaste on your CPU instead of thermal paste.

 

[maxfly]

Take your side panel off and see what your temps do. How many case fans do you have in front, top, back?

 

[BossSiggy]

Do you have an intake fan and an exhaust fan working in your computer case?

Im not sure, there is 3 fans, the stock cooler for 12700F, then one at the top of my case, one to the left of the CPU and then 2 under the GPU.

 

[Lei]

If it's Asus b660, then it's ddr4.
The CPU shouldn't die if it gets hot. It should throttle or turn off your pc. So probably the cpu was bad. May be it was engineering sample.
With so many temp sensors, it's impossible to cook a pc to the point of death.

 

[BossSiggy]

@BossSiggy I have a strange feeling that tells me you've got toothpaste on your CPU instead of thermal paste.

LMAO i dont hope the shop uses toothpase LMAO

Take your side panel off and see what your temps do. How many case fans do you have in front, top, back?

I posted a picture of the fans, except for the 2 under the GPU

If it's Asus b660, then it's ddr4.
The CPU shouldn't die if it gets hot. It should throttle or turn off your pc. So probably the cpu was bad. May be it was engineering sample.
With so many temp sensors, it's impossible to cook a pc to the point of death.

Okay so if i go and change the CPU you think i should be fine ?

 

[BlaezaLite]

As you have the stock cooler, that's going to limit you a fair bit. Deepcool AK620 is what I use for my system, but I game as well. Getting into the 90's is bad mounting territory.

Umm, your fan arrangement is not good. 2 or 3 at the front, 1 at the back and 1 at the top. Front brings the air in and rear/top get rid of the hot air.

 

[Lei]

LMAO i dont hope the shop uses toothpase LMAO


I posted a picture of the fans, except for the 2 under the GPU

Perhaps it was on shelf for too long, worn by moist, maybe it was the last cpu the employee applied the paste on before he went for vacation. May be he dropped the last boogie out of the tube and his back ached ok so much to grab a new tube from some random location.

Cuz 90°during just a virus scan, you can't blame coolers for that.

 

[BossSiggy]

As you have the stock cooler, that's going to limit you a fair bit. Deepcool AK620 is what I use for my system, but I game as well. Getting into the 90's is bad mounting territory.

Umm, your fan arrangement is not good. 2 or 3 at the front, 1 at the back and 1 at the top. Front brings the air in and rear/top get rid of the hot air.

Yeah from reading on google, its best to stay under 80 at high workload ?

well i do have the 1 at the back and 1 at the top, so your suggestion would be to get 2 at the front aswell and then a CPU cooler ? would any of theese be good enough, since theese are the only ones the shop have for my case: BE QUIET PURE ROCK 2 or CORSAIR H100x WATERCOOLER, 240MM.

Perhaps it was on shelf for too long, worn by moist, maybe it was the last cpu the employee applied the paste on before he went for vacation. May be he dropped the last boogie out of the tube and his back ached ok so much to grab a new tube from some random location.

Cuz 90°during just a virus scan, you can't blame coolers for that.

haha i like your humor lmao.

but yeah thats what Intel is saying aswell, that they should change my CPU out with a new free one and then they suggest me getting a better CPU cooler at the same time aswell.

 

[maxfly]

Get yourself a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120se for $37 from Amazon. Straighten out your case fan situation like Blaeza suggested and you'll be golden. And do yourself a BIG favor...don't piss anymore of your money away at that shop.

 

[BossSiggy]

Get yourself a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120se for $37 from Amazon. Straighten out your case fan situation like Blaeza suggested and you'll be golden. And do yourself a BIG favor...don't piss anymore of your money away at that shop.

Problem is i have never touched hardware before, except for when cleaning the pc and i dont take fans out when i do that, so im scared im gonna break something haha. But whats wrong with the shop ? I live in Denmark and its a pretty small country, so i checked all pc shops before buying and no one could give me the same offer/hardware for the money i spent, every where else they wanted like 200 USD to 600 USD extra ?

 

[Vayra86]

Before it was on some automatic stuff and i think at 70 degrees celcius the fans went to work at 100%, i changed it to manual and at 50 degrees celcius the fans now goes to 100% work, but its getting to loud, so i dont want to put it further down than that i think. Any other ideas ?

Hang on now.

90C on a stock Intel cooler is nothing strange. It being loud at that point isn't strange either. You cán run the CPU just fine like this.

The conclusion though from what you're saying here is that you really just want a better cooler on that chip. Replacing the stock cooler is not difficult, but sure, you can break things if you're not careful. We can guide you through the process or you can look up a video on it. Or you can let the shop do it for you.

Just get an air cooler, the Pure Rock is fine for your CPU, quality unit, a little pricy for what it is though; but any sort of air cooled heatsink like it will work fine. Watercooling I would certainly stay away from.

Also definitely @Blaeza made a good point about case airflow, its the better half of your entire cooling solution for a PC, 2 front intake fans are essential. You could EVEN just start off with 2 front intake fans at a modest speed on the Intel stock cooler and see where that brings you. 1 step at a time Its an interesting way to do things because you'll learn to monitor your temperatures as well and gain understanding of how cooling works.

 

[BossSiggy]

Hang on now.

90C on a stock Intel cooler is nothing strange. It being loud at that point isn't strange either. You cán run the CPU just fine like this.

The conclusion though from what you're saying here is that you really just want a better cooler on that chip. Replacing the stock cooler is not difficult, but sure, you can break things if you're not careful. We can guide you through the process or you can look up a video on it. Or you can let the shop do it for you.

Just get an air cooler, the Pure Rock is fine for your CPU, quality unit, a little pricy for what it is though; but any sort of air cooled heatsink like it will work fine. Watercooling I would certainly stay away from.

Also definitely @Blaeza made a good point about case airflow, its the better half of your entire cooling solution for a PC, 2 front intake fans are essential.

thanks for the input, helps alot. But im curious to why you would stay away for watercooling ? Ive seen alot of posts saying its the best cooling ? I have no clue about it myself though.

 

[Vayra86]

thanks for the input, helps alot. But im curious to why you would stay away for watercooling ? Ive seen alot of posts saying its the best cooling ? I have no clue about it myself though.

Its not the best cooling. The best cooling is whatever is the best fit for both the user, the use case, and the hardware you want to cool.

Watercooling is more expensive, more maintenance intensive / has more parts that can break, and if they do, its more problematic. You also have to place a radiator somewhere on top mounting the cooler.
Air cooling is cheap to buy, it costs zero to maintain (blow out a fan/heatsink once in a while, at best), and a single 20-30 dollar unit will certainly last twice as long as any AIO watercooler on the market, if not longer, and if something breaks, its a fan you can replace for 10 bucks.

Most AIO (all in one) watercooling with a 120mm radiator is also just not better than a decent air cooler. And going bigger for your chip is overkill.

Real watercooling in my book is a custom loop with a very large radiator to get an optimal cooling performance to extract maximum performance from a chip. You're clearly not looking for that. You just want to use your PC.

 

[eidairaman1]

Units need to breathe, keep them out open, not in a enclosure, keep them clean, proper cooling for them.

Keep the Air Conditioning on when in use

 

[BossSiggy]

Its not the best cooling. The best cooling is whatever is the best fit for both the user, the use case, and the hardware you want to cool.

Watercooling is more expensive, more maintenance intensive / has more parts that can break, and if they do, its more problematic. You also have to place a radiator somewhere on top mounting the cooler.
Air cooling is cheap to buy, it costs zero to maintain (blow out a fan/heatsink once in a while, at best), and a single 20-30 dollar unit will certainly last twice as long as any AIO watercooler on the market, if not longer, and if something breaks, its a fan you can replace for 10 bucks.

Most AIO (all in one) watercooling with a 120mm radiator is also just not better than a decent air cooler. And going bigger for your chip is overkill.

Real watercooling in my book is a custom loop with a very large radiator to get an optimal cooling performance to extract maximum performance from a chip. You're clearly not looking for that. You just want to use your PC.

yeah okay, i dont know what fits me best, but from the other stuff you are saying i definitely want air cooling then, since an air cooler will last longer than a AIO cooler, i hate to much maintenance and making it more complicated than it has to be if something brakes and then its just a bonus that its cheaper aswell.

Yeah i just want a fast pc, i dont even game and plan to game on pc and the program i use that uses the most resources is probably anti virus ?

Units need to breathe, keep them out open, not in a enclosure, keep them clean, proper cooling for them.

Keep the Air Conditioning on when in use

my pc is standing in the open, with alot of space on the front and the left of it and on the other sides it has at least 5 cm of space. I clean my pc every 2 weeks outside and every 2 months inside. What is proper cooling ? Would any of theese coolers be good enough ? BE QUIET PURE ROCK 2 or CORSAIR H100x WATERCOOLER, 240MM. From what peple are saying i think im gonna stick with air cooling. We dont have air condition in our homes in Denmark.

 

[Vayra86]

Yeah i just want a fast pc, i dont even game and plan to game on pc and the program i use that uses the most resources is probably anti virus ?

It might run a full scan every time, you can look into that. Totally not necessary. In fact you can uninstall the antivirus and use Windows' built in functionality just as well.

Here's how you get there: hit Start, type 'security, and 'Windows-security' will pop in the list.

In the next screen, hit Virus and threat blablabla. Maybe you will need to remove your current virus scanner from whatever pops up first. If you do, you get the screen on the left.