ASUS UK Launches Trade-in Program for Graphics Card Upgrades

[LFaWolf]

The tuf variants (and overclocked) are on the list and they are slightly over the msrp ($50-$100 here in USA) Actually not a bad deal for some people that don’t want to deal with the headache of selling their used GPU.

 

[bug]

So... this is for those that can't sell on ebay? Because the trade-in prices don't look all that fair to me.

 

[LFaWolf]

So... this is for those that can't sell on ebay? Because the trade-in prices don't look all that fair to me.

eBay takes 14% from your sales, plus you don’t have to worry about buyer’s remorse and scammers, so not a bad deal for some people.

 

[kondamin]

I don't think that's a thing.

They're not likely to get every old card off the street with this, so support rolls on.

Yes and people who can no longer play new games on their relatively new graphics cards will move to the other guy who does provide long term support

 

[trsttte]

Not as bad as I was expecting, at least for the 20 series stuff. People need to remember this isn't ebay, it's a manufacturer trade in, of course you're going to get shafted vs direct sale

 

[AusWolf]

people who can no longer play new games on their relatively new graphics cards

Who are those people? Most modern games run fine on a 7 year-old GTX 1060 or 1080 (depending on resolution and visual detail).

 

[kondamin]

Who are those people? Most modern games run fine on a 7 year-old GTX 1060 or 1080 (depending on resolution and visual detail).

Yes, if nvidia were to stop updating drivers for say the 10xx so new games would no long work.

 

[AusWolf]

Yes, if nvidia were to stop updating drivers for say the 10xx so new games would no long work.

And if the Earth was flat, it wouldn't be round. Besides, you don't necessarily need driver updates for games to work. They usually work with old drivers just (or nearly) as fine.

 

[evernessince]

eBay takes 14% from your sales, plus you don’t have to worry about buyer’s remorse and scammers, so not a bad deal for some people.

Except ASUS can lower the amount you receive. Right next the to price column it says "Cashback (subject to inspection and Trade-in Criteria) "

According to the terms purchases from third party sellers cannot use this program and in addition ASUS may decide at it's discretion whether a device is "fully-working" and if not, you will receive no money and your video card will be recycled free of charge.

You have more protections on eBay as a seller than you do with this program. You only get how much they pay you after they receive your video card and by then they already have your card and significant leverage.

FYI that eBay fee drops significantly if you have a store (which is only $20 / month). I like to group up my tech sales and buy a store for a month. If you price your products well you can easily sell them in that time and no one is going to want to return a sweet deal.

 

[dom99]

I've been through asus reclaim process just recently.

Took months to process, then when I finally got a reply it said the review I left wasn't valid, with no way to update it.

I just gave up in the end and accepted the £25 was not worth me spending hours trying to sort it out (no contact phone number just email)

Basically don't rely on claiming it back as part of a justification for buying their products

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Yes and people who can no longer play new games on their relatively new graphics cards will move to the other guy who does provide long term support

Right, so, , ?!, I don't know if you realise, but this threads about an Asus GPU trade in discount on Nvidia graphics cards.

Wtaf

I sometimes feel like a guy mistaken for a spy.

The river flows until noon Cedric, let the chic pee roll wink wink.?!?


Oh right there's more, no, you do you but leave me out of it.

 

[Chrispy_]

I've done a couple of trade-ins for fleet laptops and old Cisco Catalyst switches. In both cases I felt that the promises were misleading and the return offered was riddled with extra effort and caveats.

They're con-artists, basically. If you have the time, sell your old card on one of the used marketplaces instead, and maybe while you're there you can give Asus the middle finger by picking up a $500 RTX3080 instead of their overpriced 4070Ti.

 

[trsttte]

Yes, if nvidia were to stop updating drivers for say the 10xx so new games would no long work.

They are yet to sunset the drivers for Maxwell and you're talking about 10xx cards? Let's dial it down a bit, they're bad but not that bad, not yet anyway

 

[LFaWolf]

Except ASUS can lower the amount you receive. Right next the to price column it says "Cashback (subject to inspection and Trade-in Criteria) "

According to the terms purchases from third party sellers cannot use this program and in addition ASUS may decide at it's discretion whether a device is "fully-working" and if not, you will receive no money and your video card will be recycled free of charge.

You have more protections on eBay as a seller than you do with this program. You only get how much they pay you after they receive your video card and by then they already have your card and significant leverage.

FYI that eBay fee drops significantly if you have a store (which is only $20 / month). I like to group up my tech sales and buy a store for a month. If you price your products well you can easily sell them in that time and no one is going to want to return a sweet deal.

The trade in concern that you have listed is true for any trade in, including Apple and Google. As long you take good care of your GPU and keep it in good condition, you will have no issue. eBay sides with buyer 99% of the time, that is where the buyer protection and money back guarantee comes from. Buyers have 30 days to return your product, even if you have listed as no return. Large volume sellers see it as the cost of doing business, as eBay’s reach of customer is far and wide.

Edit: I just checked, eBay store is minimum $8 a month for starter membership. That is a nope for me.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
So basically sense asus is normally 3-500.us over other manufatures you're giving your gpu to buy an overpriced asus gpu instead of paying the same discounted price to gigabyte/...
Great deal

 

[Chrispy_]

Hi,
So basically sense asus is normally 3-500.us over other manufatures you're giving your gpu to buy an overpriced asus gpu instead of paying the same discounted price to gigabyte/...
Great deal

Almost, yeah.
The money Asus UK are offering for used cards is insutingly low, and in several cases, not far off the "ASUS tax" compared to other brands.

Trade in your 1070Ti for a 4070Ti? get £100 back to cover the £100 ASUS tax.
£130 for a 1080Ti is criminal, too. It's still a solid buy at £250 and matches a 2070S outside of gimmicky raytracing that the 2070S is too slow for in the first place...

 

[LFaWolf]

Hi,
So basically sense asus is normally 3-500.us over other manufatures you're giving your gpu to buy an overpriced asus gpu instead of paying the same discounted price to gigabyte/...
Great deal

$300 to $500? Are you sure about that? I did a quick comparison of the TUF OC models and Gigabyte, and they are the same price to me -
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-n...0-graphics-card-black/6529351.p?skuId=6529351
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigaby...ess-4-0-graphics-card/6527972.p?skuId=6527972

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-n...0-graphics-card-black/6525659.p?skuId=6525659
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigaby...0-graphics-card-black/6525661.p?skuId=6525661

ASUS TUF OC are clocked slightly faster, by the way.

 

[evernessince]

The trade in concern that you have listed is true for any trade in, including Apple and Google. As long you take good care of your GPU and keep it in good condition, you will have no issue.

No, with Apple you can go to an Apple store and get a quote on the spot. You have the choice to walk away if you don't like the offer. Same thing with many other companies that offer in person trade-ins.

Yes the issue does exist with other trade in programs, but that doesn't at all diminish the fact that it's another poorly done trade-in program.

eBay sides with buyer 99% of the time, that is where the buyer protection and money back guarantee comes from. Buyers have 30 days to return your product, even if you have listed as no return. Large volume sellers see it as the cost of doing business, as eBay’s reach of customer is far and wide.

Fun Fact: If you list your product with Free Returns eBay provides additional seller protections. Mind you eBay's default sellers protections are not bad.

I used to sell on eBay and I have over 12 years experiencing selling there. I have never lost a case escalated to eBay support and left with a 100% seller feedback rating.

When I see a seller listing "no returns", unless it's an item listed for parts (as people buying these items do not receive buyer protection) or specific non-returnable categories, it's immediately obvious they have no idea what they are doing. eBay has a legal obligation to make the customer whole so all denying a return does is force the customer to escalate to eBay, who in turn forces you to take the return, and makes you look like the bad guy for denying a customer the right to be made whole. Now because eBay had to force you to take the return, you have to give the customer a full refund and you are immediately looked upon unfavorably if you decide to appeal. So if the customer ends you sending a brick back you have put yourself in a very bad position by doing everything you could to strip yourself of vital protections and making yourself look like the bad guy. Had you simply accepted returns you would have been completely protected against most shenanigans. Return rate for products in the PC Part category typically sit around 3% so accepting returns doesn't mean you'll get any. GPUs in particular have a low return rate as they are the easiest to install. A good chunk of PC part returns are people not knowing how to properly install parts.

Now as a buyer on eBay I have encountered a few scams which did require me to go down to the post office and get statements from the postmaster. I have to say that I've encountered more difficulty as a buyer than a seller. Being honest, upfront, and avoiding making assumptions goes a long way when you sell on eBay.

Edit: I just checked, eBay store is minimum $8 a month for starter membership. That is a nope for me.

The starter store is a waste of time. You want the $21 option, which includes a massive reduction in Final Value fees. It pays for itself after you've sold $300 or more worth of items which for someone who's upgraded their PC should be an easy choice to get for one month. The price goes down with a yearly sub but yeah, not a good deal for anyone buy more dedicated eBay sellers.

 

[LFaWolf]

No, with Apple you can go to an Apple store and get a quote on the spot. You have the choice to walk away if you don't like the offer.

Yes the issue does exist with other trade in programs, but that doesn't at all diminish the fact that it's another poorly done trade-in program.



Fun Fact: If you list your product with Free Returns eBay provides additional seller protections. Mind you eBay's default sellers protections are not bad.

I used to sell on eBay and I have over 12 years experiencing selling there. I have never lost a case escalated to eBay support and left with a 100% seller feedback rating.

When I see a seller listing "no returns", unless it's an item listed for parts (as people buying these items do not receive buyer protection) or specific non-returnable categories, it's immediately obvious they have no idea what they are doing. eBay has a legal obligation to make the customer whole so all denying a return does is force the customer to escalate to eBay, who in turn forces you to take the return, and makes you look like the bad guy for denying a customer the right to be made whole. Now because eBay had to force you to take the return, you have to give the customer a full refund and you are immediately looked upon unfavorably if you decide to appeal. So if the customer ends you sending a brick back you have put yourself in a very bad position by doing everything you could to strip yourself of vital protections and making yourself look like the bad guy. Had you simply accepted returns you would have been completely protected against most shenanigans. Return rate for products in the PC Part category typically sit around 3% so accepting returns doesn't mean you'll get any. GPUs in particular have a low return rate as they are the easiest to install. A good chunk of PC part returns are people not knowing how to properly install parts.



The starter store is a waste of time. You want the $21 option, which includes a massive reduction in Final Value fees. It pays for itself after you've sold $300 or more worth of items which for someone who's upgraded their PC should be an easy choice to get for one month. The price goes down with a yearly sub but yeah, not a good deal for anyone buy more dedicated eBay sellers.

I have been with eBay since month 2 of its incarnation. I have over 400 feedback, both selling and buying. I have stopped selling since it instituted the buyer's protection. Good for you to continue selling on eBay. Sure, 99% of the buyers are honest people, but all it takes is 1 buyer that buys a $2k GPU and send a brick back to you to wipe you out. But good luck anyway.

Average user on TPU is not going to pay $21 a month for have an eBay store just to sell 1 GPU for upgrade. Therefore, this trade in program still has value for people.

 

[evernessince]

I have been with eBay since month 2 of its incarnation. I have over 400 feedback, both selling and buying. I have stopped selling since it instituted the buyer's protection. Good for you to continue selling on eBay. Sure, 99% of the buyers are honest people, but all it takes is 1 buyer that buys a $2k GPU and send a brick back to you to wipe you out. But good luck anyway.

Average user on TPU is not going to pay $21 a month for have an eBay store just to sell 1 GPU for upgrade. Therefore, this trade in program still has value for people.

I should clarify, or restate, that I no longer sell part time on eBay as I've gotten a very well paying full-time job. I just use eBay for selling extra parts now.

Yes, I would not recommend anyone to just buy an eBay store for a month unless they are selling goods of $500 or greater. Not worth it otherwise.

The brick in a box trick doesn't work anymore, at least not against anyone who doesn't mess up as described in my last post. I've had people try that and it never works out well for them in the end. You file a report with the FBI's internet crime division, the carrier, and the police and give a copy to eBay and they yoink the money from the buyer and give it back to you. A more current scam that fraudulent sellers will do is send an empty package to a different house on your street via USPS including it being addressed to the owner of that house. Given that USPS only lists street, state, and country, it appears to have been delivered. Meanwhile the person who did receive the empty package opens it and tosses it out, eliminating evidence. Of course this scam is 100% beatable as well but IMO the carrier scams are coming from sellers. My eBay account currently has a feedback rating of over 4,000.

 

[Chrispy_]

Getting a bit off-topic but if you don't have an Ebay store subscription, Ebay have mostly regular fortnightly fee discounts that are typically 70-80% off FVF. At 80% off, Ebay's cut is reduced to under 3% and it sure is nice to get 97.15% of the sale value.

For infrequent sellers, wait for an offer rather than using the store. Also, accept returns when selling but select "buyer pays return postage". That weeds out most scammers IME...

$300 to $500? Are you sure about that? I did a quick comparison of the TUF OC models and Gigabyte, and they are the same price to me -
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-n...0-graphics-card-black/6529351.p?skuId=6529351
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigaby...ess-4-0-graphics-card/6527972.p?skuId=6527972

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-n...0-graphics-card-black/6525659.p?skuId=6525659
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigaby...0-graphics-card-black/6525661.p?skuId=6525661

ASUS TUF OC are clocked slightly faster, by the way.

Your USA links don't apply for a news article discussing a UK-only scheme.

TUF is £100 more than other base models here and it has clocks within 1% of rock-bottom reference clocks.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/nvidia-graphics-cards/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti?sort=price_asc

If you're really really really unlucky and got a bad sample of the cheapest base-model 4070Ti you could find, you'd still get 10% OC out of it. 1% factory OC is not just pointless, it's worthless given how sample-to-sample variance of cards is significantly larger than that even within samples of the exact same SKU. You're not wrong that ASUS TUF are clocked slightly faster, but by even mentioning it, you're leaning into the irrelevant marketing nonsense; fixed boost clocks aren't how Geforces have worked for over a decade.

 

[LFaWolf]

Getting a bit off-topic but if you don't have an Ebay store subscription, Ebay have mostly regular fortnightly fee discounts that are typically 70-80% off FVF. At 80% off, Ebay's cut is reduced to under 3% and it sure is nice to get 97.15% of the sale value.

For infrequent sellers, wait for an offer rather than using the store. Also, accept returns when selling but select "buyer pays return postage". That weeds out most scammers IME...


Your USA links don't apply for a news article discussing a UK-only scheme.

TUF is £100 more than other base models here and it has clocks within 1% of rock-bottom reference clocks.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/nvidia-graphics-cards/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti?sort=price_asc

If you're really really really unlucky and got a bad sample of the cheapest base-model 4070Ti you could find, you'd still get 10% OC out of it. 1% factory OC is not just pointless, it's worthless given how sample-to-sample variance of cards is significantly larger than that even within samples of the exact same SKU. You're not wrong that ASUS TUF are clocked slightly faster, but by even mentioning it, you're leaning into the irrelevant marketing nonsense; fixed boost clocks aren't how Geforces have worked for over a decade.

I was comparing the price of asus tuf models against comparable gigabyte models, as in my original post, not against the absolute base model, so the pricing comparison still stands.

I should clarify, or restate, that I no longer sell part time on eBay as I've gotten a very well paying full-time job. I just use eBay for selling extra parts now.

Yes, I would not recommend anyone to just buy an eBay store for a month unless they are selling goods of $500 or greater. Not worth it otherwise.

The brick in a box trick doesn't work anymore, at least not against anyone who doesn't mess up as described in my last post. I've had people try that and it never works out well for them in the end. You file a report with the FBI's internet crime division, the carrier, and the police and give a copy to eBay and they yoink the money from the buyer and give it back to you. A more current scam that fraudulent sellers will do is send an empty package to a different house on your street via USPS including it being addressed to the owner of that house. Given that USPS only lists street, state, and country, it appears to have been delivered. Meanwhile the person who did receive the empty package opens it and tosses it out, eliminating evidence. Of course this scam is 100% beatable as well but IMO the carrier scams are coming from sellers. My eBay account currently has a feedback rating of over 4,000.

And we are back to my original argument - it could lead to headache and hassle to the average users. This trade in program is useful for some people

 

[bug]

eBay takes 14% from your sales, plus you don’t have to worry about buyer’s remorse and scammers, so not a bad deal for some people.

I was using "ebay" in the generic sense. There's got to be like a million web sites out there where you could sell your card. And you can sell it directly, to someone you know.

 

[Blaylock]

Thank God the mining craze is over so GPU prices can come back down to reasonable levels. LOL

 

[bug]

Thank God the mining craze is over so GPU prices can come back down to reasonable levels. LOL

Sales are already down. It's just a matter of who flinches first now.